From: skunk-works-digest-owner@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu To: skunk-works-digest@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V2 #75 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Tuesday, 9 February 1993 Volume 02 : Number 075 In this issue: To: skunk-works@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu Aurora Aurora Re: Bulk response NRO Re: T-Shirts !?! See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cynthia J Smith Date: Mon, 8 Feb 93 5:23:16 EST Subject: To: skunk-works@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu subscribe ------------------------------ From: david@tracer.whoi.edu (David Ciochetto) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 93 07:57:22 EST Subject: Aurora Here is an interesting bit of info from Avation Week, January 25, 1993 p. 65 - -Canadian Forces Begin Operating First Lockheed Arcturus Aircraft - -... The Maritime Air Group also plans to shift about 20% - -of its maritime patrol pilot proficiency training from the - -more expensive ASW Aurora aircraft to the Arcturus. The - -Aurora is a fully equipped P-3. - - The Arcturus program is expected to extend the life of - -the Aurora fleet by five years. Lt. Col. Brian Maclean at - -Maritime Air Group headquarters said Auroras will be flying - -at least until 2010 and probably beyond. There are 14 - -Auroras stationed at Greenwood now and only four at a base - -called Comox in British Columbia. _.... There already is a plane designated as the Aurora... what are the chances that the government is hiding the Aurora 'survellience' plane behind the Aurora 'maritime surin British Columbia. _.... There already is a plane designated as the Aurora... what are the chances that the government is hiding the Aurora 'survellience' plane behind the Aurora 'maritime surveillence' P-3 aircraft? Or something else... ------------------------------ From: david@tracer.whoi.edu (David Ciochetto) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 93 07:58:25 EST Subject: Aurora This is the article from Aerospace America concerning the Aurora project: Dawn of a new spy plane? Some scientists and aircraft enthusiasts, as well as Jane's Defence Weekly, claim that a super-secret spy plane that is so fast and flies so high that no known surface to air missile could touch it has been developed by the Pentagon. Fueling this belief in the existence of the aircraft, dubbed Aurora because that name appeared in a budget request without explanation, is the retirement of the sucessful, relatively inexpensive SR-71 spy plane in 1990. Both the Dept. of Defense and the Air Force have denied the existence of the aircraft. Copied without permission from Aerospace America, All typos are mine... otherwise the content is theirs. ------------------------------ From: Per Danielsson Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1993 19:51:22 +0100 Subject: Re: Bulk response George Allegrezza 01-Feb-1993 1300 wrote: >Is this the same nose-mounted recovery system used by James Bond and Pussy >Galore in "Thunderball"? If so, it was manufactured in Danbury, Connecticut, >where I grew up. The company used to demonstrate it every year at the local >airport, using a target dummy and a P2V. Neat as hell, when you're eight years >old. I saw "Thunderball" the other day. The aircraft used in the movie was a B-17. I wonder how many different types have been used for this kind of recovery. (BTW: Pussy Galore is the girl in "Goldfinger"). ------------------------------ From: kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 93 12:56:10 PST Subject: NRO A UFO researcher gave a talk on the 5th here in Seattle and he made an interesting point. Supposedly, the Navy (since WWII or earlier) has had some kind of lock on any new or discovered technology. Period. While I didn't ask him about that, I do have him on tape and will go back and see if I can put what he said verbatim into ascii. The point is, however, that if this were true, it would fit very neatly into the NRO's statement and allow them to be telling them the truth. The question we should ask them is "Do you know of any official branch of any government that has manned vehicles that resemble or approximate the characteristics of the hypothetical 'Aurora'? If the SecDOD were to get up there and put out one of these statements saying "You're all hooey" then that might be different. Or, perhaps, Wild Bill Clinton. But so far, we've only had statements from people that represented a specific segment of the government and could prevaricate by not acknowledging the real organization owning these programs. Another question might be "Are the NRO, CIA, and USAF benifitting by contributing funding to a Navy or other project to develop an advanced capability platform?" I've heard on the local news that the Boeing company (which I work for) is preparing to have incinerated, four truckloads of data about black programs. All the vendors seem to be doing this as well... Covering their tracks? Rick Rick Pavek | Never ask a droid to outdo its program. kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com | Seattle, WA | It wastes your time | and annoys the droid. ------------------------------ From: megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (B Bikowicz) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1993 16:14:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: T-Shirts !?! Once upon a time Mary Shafer shaped the electrons to say... >You can buy F-22 T-shirts from Blackbird Aviation. Good quality, >good design, somewhere between 15 and 20 bucks. I buy my F-4, F-18, and >F-15 T-shirts and sweat shirts from them all the time. I'm about to get a >B-2 shirt, and probably an A-10. They have the F-22, ATF-23, 2 each F-14, F-15, F-18, F-16... C-130, B-2, a couple of SR-71s, M-1, UH-1, AH-64, RAH-66, F-4.... etc etc... Nearly my entired wardrobe consists of Blackbird Intl. T-shirts. If I recall correctly they are $15 for M,L,XL and $17.50 for XXL. They have an 800 number to call in orders, or for catalogues... Of course mine are burried at the moment. They have a wardbirds series for the prop-heads... :-) And an extensive run of the jets - fighters, bombers, cargo - including foreign craft like the Viggen, Flanker, Flogger, and I think the Gripen... Consider this a reccomendation... :-) ############################################################################### # I have one prejudice, and that is against stupidity. Use your mind, think! # #Email megazone@wpi.wpi.edu Moderator, WPI anime FTP site 130.215.24.1 /anime# ############################################################################### ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V2 #75 ******************************** To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "listserv@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu". 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