From: skunk-works-digest-owner@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu To: skunk-works-digest@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V3 #21 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Friday, 27 August 1993 Volume 03 : Number 021 In this issue: About the film The Right Stuff Re: book X-30 axed book The Right Airplane See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sp2stes1@hugin.his.se (Stefan Skoglund) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 14:48:26 +0200 Subject: About the film The Right Stuff Swedish television showed that film some weeks ago. In the film-end Chuck Yeager tries to do a record-breaking flight unallowed. The a/c is destroyed. It looked like a F-104 Starfighter. Question : Did he do that in reality and in that case which kind of a/c ? - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Skoglund I "Viggen | i tiden *)" sp2stes1@helga.his.se, I | University of Skoevde, Sweden I _____/0\_____ - --------------------------------I ____________O(.)O___________ I -+- O -+- I *) Viggen with two Rb04 ------------------------------ From: rschnapp@metaflow.com (Russ Schnapp) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 08:55:41 PDT Subject: Re: book >pierson@cimcad.enet.dec.com wrote: > One quote: > ... with the rapid development of ICBMS interest in future airplanes > for military development has decreased ..... This shift and consequent > disappearance of large scale military financial support has created > problems in connection with future R & D..... > > So much for prophecy.... I'm not sure what you mean. This "prophecy" was dead on. So far as I know, precious little progress was made in supersonic propulsion in the subsequent couple of decades. ...Russ ------------------------------ From: rakoczynskij%postoffice.agcs.com@agcs.com (Jurek Rakoczynski) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 11:27:03 -0700 (MST) Subject: X-30 axed From Air&Space August/September 1993, Page 15 [copied without permission, typo's are mine] ---start here--- X-30 Axed The U.S. Air Force and NASA have canceled the scramjet single-stage-to-orbit X-30 National Aerospace Plane transport ("Space Plane," August/September 1986). The project is being redirected from achieving manned hypersonic flight toward solving technolgical and financial issues that stand in the way of constructing a flight test demonstrator, such as determining the boundary layer transition point, studing scramjet performance data at high Mach numbers, and obtaining proof of hypersonic vehicle stability. ---end here--- I assume that in the current cost conscience budget environment, even Lockheads alternate proposal has no chance. I don't think you could even hide that much expenditure in a "black" project. BTW. Maybe someone should tell LADC they don't have info info to fly what they fly. :-) - -- Jurek Rakoczynski, AG Communication Systems, POB 52179, Phoenix, AZ. 85072-2179 Inet: rakoczynskij@agcs.com Voice: +1 602 581 4867 Inet: JUREK.RAKOCZYNSKI@gte.sprint.com Fax: +1 602 581 4022 ------------------------------ From: I am the NRA Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 14:33:24 PDT Subject: book Russ writes, in part: >>pierson@cimcad.enet.dec.com wrote: >> One quote: >> ... with the rapid development of ICBMS interest in future airplanes >> for military development has decreased ..... This shift and consequent >> disappearance of large scale military financial support has created >> problems in connection with future R & D..... >> >> So much for prophecy.... >I'm not sure what you mean. This "prophecy" was dead on. That would come as a shock to the drivers of F14, F15, F18, F16... (to stick to the US, not to slight SU27, Saab, etc...) > So far as I know, precious little progress was made in supersonic propulsion >in the subsequent couple of decades. Neither the quoted text, nor i, said anything about supersonic. Nor have i noticed any shortage of support for manned, high speed, atmospheric flight, by _any_ military. (OK, we killed the XB70, the US SST and the Russian luck with _their_ SST has been minimal. >...Russ regards dwp ------------------------------ From: Rick Pavek Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 15:07:58 -0700 Subject: The Right Airplane Yes, that actually happened. The aircraft was actually an 'NF-104' and was a one-of-a-kind with a rocket mounted in the tail. If you can get a copy, read Yeager's autobiography, he covers the incident in good detail. Apparently, the inside of his helmet was on fire, and he suffered some burns to his face. Was not the high point of his life. SR-75/XR-7 _|_*O*_|_ | HA! Rick Pavek \ _|_ / | kuryakin@halcyon.com \______--/< >\--______/ | Ruby - \-\___/-/ | Galactic Gumshoe ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V3 #21 ******************************** To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "listserv@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-skunk-works": subscribe skunk-works-digest local-skunk-works@your.domain.net To unsubscribe, send mail to the same address, with the command: unsubscribe skunk-works-digest in the body. Administrative requests, problems, and other non-list mail can be sent to either "skunk-works-digest-owner@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu" or, if you don't like to type a lot, "prm@ecn.purdue.edu". 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