From: skunk-works-digest-owner@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu To: skunk-works-digest@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V3 #22 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Wednesday, 21 April 1993 Volume 03 : Number 022 In this issue: Smithsonian lecture by F-117 pilot Re: SR-71 Model Re: SR-71 Model SR71/D21 kit Latest Intercepts reports Stealth on the water... Re: Stealth on the water... See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Hastings, OUCS" Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 13:42:45 +0100 Subject: Smithsonian lecture by F-117 pilot Hi, Is anybody going to the April 22 lecture in the Smithsonian Langley Theater? It is called "Stealth and Desert Storm" - Colonel Ralph Getchell will recount his experiences as an F-117A pilot. If anybody goes, please report back to the list :-) Dave David Hastings | "The technical axiom that nothing is VAX Systems Programmer | impossible sinisterly conditions one to Oxford University Computing Services| the pitfall corollary that nothing is daveh@vax.oxford.ac.uk | ridiculous" ------------------------------ From: rschnapp@metaflow.com (Russ Schnapp) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 08:33:26 PDT Subject: Re: SR-71 Model It's funny you should mention that SR-71/GTD-21 model. I happened to be browsing through a hobby shop and came across that model. I was amused because, as many folks here know, there never was such a configuration. So far as I know, no SR-71 has ever carried a D-21. Now, an A-12 was modified to include a second seat and a pylon to carry the drone, and it was called the M-12. There are significant differences between the SR-71 and the M-12, though. ...Russ ------------------------------ From: Brent L. Bates ViGYAN AAD/TAB Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 15:00:02 EDT Subject: Re: SR-71 Model Hey, as far as the general public goes they're ALL SR-71's. If you showed Joe Blow on the street an A-12, M-12 and an SR-71 he'd say they were the same. So why should a model company care. Look at the first B-2 model that came out, it had a straight trailing edge and people are still buying them. Brent L. Bates Phone:(804) 864-2854 M.S. 361 FAX:(804) 864-8469 NASA Langley Research Center Hampton, Virginia 23681-0001 E-mail: blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov or B.L.BATES@larc.nasa.gov ------------------------------ From: Rick Pavek Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 12:38:24 -0700 Subject: SR71/D21 kit Well, keep in mind that the Monogram kit came out before there was any information on the D-21 drone besides the pictures. Sure, it's off-base now. (Though it is an easy place to get a good D21 model) I built mine without the drone, in NASA markings and then built the drone as a separate model. Comes with a cart to mount it on. Rick kuryakin@halcyon.com ------------------------------ From: Rick Pavek Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 12:54:07 -0700 Subject: Latest Intercepts reports Black Manta sighting: From a Kentucky radio monitor comes a sighting that may be of one of the elusive TR-3A Black Mantas. He writes... "On March 8th at 11:50 PM EST, I was listening to a shortwave broadcast when I happened to look out the window of my radio room. I noticed two aircraft approaching at a distance. I live approximately 30 miles from Bluegrass Airport and can regularly see aircraft approaching and departing the airport. The two aircraft I noticed Monday night were flying very closely together. The thing about them that really got my attention was their extremely low altitude. They were both flying very, very low and were slow moving. I would dare guess that their altitude was no more than 1500 feet. I walked outside to get a better view of the aircraft as they were about to pass over my home. As the first aircraft passed over I was stunned by the shape of the aircraft which was very similar to the wingspread of a bat! The second aircraft was identical in shape and size. As they flew over, I couldhear their jet engines which sounded like normal jet engines. Needless to say I was a little shook up and excited by what I saw. I quickly went back inside and began scanning the few military channels (HF) that I had loaded into my scanner. That was fruitless. The next day I called Bluegrass Field and asked them if they knew what the aircraft I saw were. They replied that there were no departures from the airport during that time and they offered no explanation. I also called the Kentucky State Police to find out if anyone had reported seeing these strange aircraft. I must say that I do not believe they were F-117As. These aircraft seemed much too large and I could see them well. It was a very bright night with a full moon. The shape was somewhat similar in shape to the F-117A but I would say that these aircraft were 2 to 3 times larger. (My note, now... included in this report was a drawing of the beastie. The object was drawn as a slightly stretched equilateral triangle, that is to say stretched out slightly upwards. Those of you that have seen the generic Shuttle triangle (logo) patch know the shape. There are five lights, three on each point of the triangle with the other two forward of the midline forming a smaller triagle with the nose light. The guy did give his name but I'm not about to... you don't know who reads the list...) Rick kuryakin@halcyon.com ------------------------------ From: scooter@emunix.emich.edu (Todd McDaniel) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 0:14:59 EDT Subject: Stealth on the water... Did any one else see the AP photo of the Navys Stealth ship last (2) week? There was some discussion in sci.military. I wondered if anyone had any more info? - -tj - -- - ------------------------------Save the wolves--------------------------------- | _________ ___ ___ ___ |EngliNet: Todd John McDaniel | | /________/| /__/| /__/\ /__/| |InterNet: scooter@emunix.emich.edu | | |___ ___|/ | || | \\ / || | | | | || ____| || | |\\//| || | Western Civilization: | | | || /____| || | ||\/ | || | "It would be a good idea" | | |__|/ |_______|/ |__|/ |__|/ | Mohandas K. Gandhi | | | | - ------------------------------Save the wolves--------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 23:29:52 MDT Subject: Re: Stealth on the water... scooter@emunix.emich.edu writes: >Did any one else see the AP photo of the Navys Stealth >ship last (2) week? There was some discussion in sci.military. >I wondered if anyone had any more info? Well, I didn't see that AP photo, but the current issue of Defense News does have two pics of this strange beast! From certain angles, it really looks like someone took an F-117A and said "turn this thing into a boat!" :-) It is called the "Sea Shadow", and has apparently been in development since the mid-80s and has cost $245 million. Just like the 117, the photos were released because they are now testing it during daylight. Unfortunately it is not possible to make out any sort of weapons bays or even crew hatches from the photos. Based on markings on the side, it looks like it might be about 150 feet in length. I'm sure it must make for one hell of a strange sight for anyone seeing this thing out on the water! Hopefully someone will have a camera along... - -dean ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V3 #22 ******************************** To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "listserv@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-skunk-works": subscribe skunk-works-digest local-skunk-works@your.domain.net To unsubscribe, send mail to the same address, with the command: unsubscribe skunk-works-digest in the body. Administrative requests, problems, and other non-list mail can be sent to either "skunk-works-digest-owner@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu" or, if you don't like to type a lot, "prm@ecn.purdue.edu". 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