From: skunk-works-digest-owner@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu To: skunk-works-digest@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V3 #80 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Tuesday, 20 July 1993 Volume 03 : Number 080 In this issue: Portland 1993 Airshow Sightseeing in Mclean VA Re: Portland 1993 Airshow A request See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: larry@ichips.intel.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 11:54:53 -0700 Subject: Portland 1993 Airshow I know this doesn't have anything to do with Skunk Works but the neatest thing that happened to me this weekend was that I got to see a Gee Bee R-2 fly low level aerobatics! WOW!! What a shape! What a sound! This weekend was the 1993 Portland Rose Festival - Hillsboro Air Show. Also nice performances by (in no special order): F-117A (What can I say?) F-15 (Only one pass guys? - C'mon!) F-14D (TURN and BURN!) Canadian Snow Birds (Very Nice! Very CLASSY! Very smooth! A good star act!) A-10 (I wanna be a Thunderbolt II pilot! NICE SHOW!) T-33 (Love these things - Always have!) B-52 (Flown by Gen. Jack Ripper - Brought to you by SAC - A MAN'S bomber!) KC-135 (Boy I love that shape!) KC-10 (Boy that sucker's a big tanker!) F-16 (Only one pass guys? - C'mon! - They didn't even go vertical!) AV-8 (AWESOME - Always a BLAST!) P-51Ds (What a sight, what a sound!) A-26 Invader (I love these things too!!) Lockheed Constellation (Elegant!) Pitts S-1/S-2 (I gotta get back in the cockpit!) Leo Loudenslager's (sp?) design (I'm Speechless! I've seen the MASTER!) Waco (Wonder what it feels like out on top of the wing like that?) Buffalo (How does such a big prop plane do that kinda stuff?) Gee Bee R-2 (A Religious Experience - My favorite of the whole show - I wanna fly a Gee Bee too!) Unfortunately the Russian Su-27 team didn't come back this year. They were scheduled but something happened at the last moment. One thing I learned is that Navy and Marine pilots love to fly their airplanes - it shows! There must be an airshow school for F-14 and AV-8 pilots. Their shows are VERY well done. They REALLY impress the public with their airplanes! Everyone was commenting about how good NAVY and MARINE pilots obviously are!! You haven't experienced 'ROCK and ROLL' until you've stood UNDER an F-14D pulling real hard in a 90 deg. bank and a REAL LOW altitude with full burners and a nice double shock train coming out the back!!!!!!!!!!! ANG (USAF?) pilots - well, they seem to fly in straight lines a lot! OK, on Sunday when the sky was unlimited they did go vertical - and then didn't come back! One pass! Put me in one of those F-15's or F-16's and then you'd see something! I don't think I'd be able to fly straight and level, especially over tens of thousands of people who wanted me to GET IT ON!! Our local ANG guys did better in their F-4's a few years back. Maybe it was the extra set of eyes or something. If these guys are being held back by some General somewhere then ... Dear General, stop holding these guys back! The public is getting the wrong impression! I guess Portland must be a Navy town. The Blue Angels fly here. The Thunderbirds won't. Something about the field being too short is the scuttlebut. I don't know if that's the real reason. The Blue Angels do their diamond formation takeoff in F-18's from a field, that the Thunderbirds won't even fly into! WAIT! I'm partly wrong here! The A-10 jock did a GREAT JOB!! People really loved that show!! Nothing but praise there!! Maybe there's an A-10 airshow school as well! I wish Republic never went out of business! Larry Smith ------------------------------ From: Christopher Zguris <0004854540@mcimail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 01:52 GMT Subject: Sightseeing in Mclean VA Hello everyone! I'm going to be in Mclean VA at the beginning of August (next month) and was wondering if there are any interesting skunk-works type cites around there (I'm in NYC so I have no idea!)? Also, is the NSA in Mclean? And, also-also, I noticed the Intrepid Sea-Air-Space museum here in the city has an SR-71 on display (the ship has been made non-operational and must be towed) so I would guess the SR-71 on the flight deck is the same? I haven't had a chance to check it out first hand. Christopher Zguris CZGURIS@MCIMail.com ------------------------------ From: john@percy.rain.com (John Cavanaugh) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 22:36:11 -40962758 (PDT) Subject: Re: Portland 1993 Airshow > ... > > WOW!! > > .. Gee Larry, like the show? I didn't think it was quite as good as last years...but then again, last year I was contemplating some way I could sacrifice a limb to get a ride in one of those SU-27s... You're right though...it's a *RUSH* being close to the F-14 when he hits the burners...:-) - -- John Cavanaugh "There can be only one." ------------------------------ From: Rick Pavek Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 00:59:06 -0700 Subject: A request Sorry for the off-subject request but this list may contain the email address of someone who can help me dig out some information... I would like to get in touch with someone from, or who worked at, the White Sands Missile Range and can tell me if the launch tower that was used for the Aerobee-High/X8 rocket launches still exists. I'd like to get some good color pictures and some measurements. A dimensioned drawing would help, too, but I'd settle for what I can get. Thanks, Rick kuryakin@halcyon.com ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V3 #80 ******************************** To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "listserv@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-skunk-works": subscribe skunk-works-digest local-skunk-works@your.domain.net To unsubscribe, send mail to the same address, with the command: unsubscribe skunk-works-digest in the body. Administrative requests, problems, and other non-list mail can be sent to either "skunk-works-digest-owner@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu" or, if you don't like to type a lot, "prm@ecn.purdue.edu". 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