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Skunk Works Digest       Saturday, 23 October 1993     Volume 04 : Number 045

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	Air Forcs Withdraws Land Adjacent to Groom Lake
	Re: Groom Lake

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From: larry@ichips.intel.com
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 15:21:07 -0700
Subject: Air Forcs Withdraws Land Adjacent to Groom Lake

Well I guess it's official.

The air Force will "withdraw" an additional 3900 acres of public land
adjacent to the test facility at Groom lake for 2 years (Federal Register,
10/18/93, page 53745).

Included in the withdrawal (siezure?) are key vantage points like Freedom
Ridge and White Sides, used by the public to view the secret unacknowledged
facility at Groom Lake.

According to Air Force Secretary Sheila E. Widnall, the siezure of public
land "is necessary for the safe and secure operation" of the nearby 
facilities.

The Federation of Americal Scientists thinks it curious that even the
extravagant security measures of the most secure of cold war bases,
are now somehow deficient, after the cold war is over.

It is curious that under the Open Skies Treaty, foreign consignatory 
nations will be allowed to fly over and photograph the site at Groom Lake,
whose very existence is a liberty denied to Americans.

Larry



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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 23:52:30 MDT
Subject: Re: Groom Lake

Larry says...
 >The air Force will "withdraw" an additional 3900 acres of public 
 >land adjacent to the test facility at Groom lake for 2 years 

Hmm... so what happens after 2 years?

(and what happens at Groom Lake DURING those 2 years! :)

 >The Federation of Americal Scientists thinks it curious that even the
 >extravagant security measures of the most secure of cold war bases,
 >are now somehow deficient, after the cold war is over.

Yes, that is quite "curious" indeed.

 >It is curious that under the Open Skies Treaty, foreign consignatory 
 >nations will be allowed to fly over and photograph the site at Groom Lake,
 >whose very existence is a liberty denied to Americans.

But one "liberty" they have NOT denied us is the spending of countless
Billions of our tax dollars on the place... with no doubt a very large
percentage paying for nothing but keeping it secret.  I suppose one 
liberty they will never deny is us blissful ignorance.  But of course
i'm sure its for our own good, since if the general public knew about
the existance of a Mach 6+ reconnaissance aircraft, it would probably
cause mass hysteria!  :->

- -dean


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