From: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V5 #24 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Wednesday, 2 March 1994 Volume 05 : Number 024 In this issue: RE: Skunk Works Digest V5 #23 Re: Jane's IDR/AP Stealth Article F-16XL Pulser heard on Saturday ! + Unsolved Mysteries Wed. Night Alert REQUEST: Nevada sightseeing help Pulser heard on Saturday ! + Unsolved Mysteries Wed. Night Alert (fwd) Re: Pulser heard on Saturday ! Re: Pulser heard on Saturday ! + Unsolved Mysteries Wed. Night Alert Re: Pulser heard on Saturday ! + Unsolved Mysteries Wed. Night Alert Re: Pulser heard on Saturday ! + Unsolved Mysteries Wed. Night Alert See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: russellk@BIX.com Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 09:19:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE: Skunk Works Digest V5 #23 Can someone please give me Mary Schaffer's email address? Thanx. -- Russell Kay Byte Magazine ------------------------------ From: PHARABOD@frcpn11.in2p3.fr Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 17:12:24 MET Subject: Re: Jane's IDR/AP Stealth Article >Wilmington News Journal, February 24, 1994, Page A8 > >REPORT: U.S. HAS NEW SPY AIRCRAFT > >By Edith M. Lederer, Associated Press > >LONDON - The U.S. Air Force has developed a new stealth aircraft capable of >spying or bombing, an authoritative British journal reported Wednesday. >Jane's International Defense Review published a drawing of the diamond shaped >plane, which strongly resembles a smaller version of the B-2 stealth bomber. > The unidentified aircraft has been seen in flight across the >southwestern United States and was captured on two videotapes, one made near >Groom Lake Air Force Base, Nevada, the magazine said in its March issue. > The Air Force "is not in a position to comment on the story, one way or >another," said spokesman, Col. Doug Kennet, in Washington. > [...] >Passed on by Ran (Fri, 25 Feb 94 01:46:19 EST) Maybe this one is the mysterious TR 3-A "Black Manta". J. Pharabod ------------------------------ From: jason@minster.york.ac.uk Date: Mon, 28 Feb 94 16:13:45 Subject: F-16XL (1) Anyone tell me what the "supersonic laminar flow control" project is about? (2) How is the F16-XL being used in conjunction with the SR-71 for "boom" tests (3) What are the external differences (pictures?) from the regular F-16, whats the colour (yep, I'm British) scheme & markings of the 2-seater at Dryden? Thanks, jason JASON P GOOD Email: jason@minster.york.ac.uk Human Computer Interaction Group, Dept of Computer Science, University of York. ------------------------------ From: larry@ichips.intel.com Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 16:47:12 -0800 Subject: Pulser heard on Saturday ! + Unsolved Mysteries Wed. Night Alert Steve Douglass heard and photographed the pulser contrail again on Sat. 12/26/94 at around 2:30pm Amarillo time. Many of his neighbors also heard it as well. For Steve, it had gone buy too quickly to be able to get outside soon enough to see the aircraft that was laying the contrail/smoke trail. However the contrail/smoke trail was photographed. The track was from southwest to northeast. There was no noticeable radio traffic change during the incident. Additional details are being withheld to help act as a filtering mechanism. By the way. This Wednesday's Unsolved Mysteries will contain a 7 minute segment about Steve's first Pulser sighting. Aviation Week and Space Technology magazine has also released the "gold dripper" and "Holy Cow" videos for use on this segment. Since Steve has gotten quite a bit of publicity from his first Pulser sighting, it is rather AMAZING that it would fly over his house AGAIN!! Obviously, whoever is flying this thing is not too worried. Perhaps we are way off! Actually this has happened before. The 1989-1990 flight track of the Pulser continued to be used for some time AFTER AW&ST ran it's first pulser story. Perhaps they don't read popular magazines, or they're so compartmentalized that nobody can pass the word, or we're actually diong them a favor! Larry ------------------------------ From: naa2254@dsacam.dsac.dla.mil (Tom Ohmer) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 09:59:07 -0500 Subject: REQUEST: Nevada sightseeing help I just got off the phone with a friend who knows of my fondness for stealthy (among other things) aircraft. He is planning a vacation in Nevada and would like info/tips on places to go to see B-2s, SR-71s, Thunderbirds, etc. So, imagine my friend as someone who has no knowledge of the lay-of-the-land, so to speak, and you are offering him advise. Where should he go? When? What should he expect to see? Although I am not planning on a trip to NV soon myself, I will use whatever you send in the case that I someday do. Thanks in advance for your help. Tom Ohmer, Computer Specialist, DSAC-AAA 1 614 692 8059 DLA Systems Automation Center, P.O. Box 1605, Columbus, OH 43216-5002 tohmer@dsac.dla.mil ...osu-cis!dsac!tohmer "Sorry, we're closed." -- Sam Malone ------------------------------ From: dougt@u011.oh.vp.com (Doug Tiffany) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 94 5:01:49 EST Subject: Pulser heard on Saturday ! + Unsolved Mysteries Wed. Night Alert (fwd) > > The track was from southwest to northeast. There was no noticeable radio > traffic change during the incident. > > Additional details are being withheld to help act as a filtering mechanism. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Exactly, what does this mean? - -- Douglas J. Tiffany (dougt@u011.oh.vp.com) Varco-Pruden Buildings Northern Division Van Wert OH. (419) 238-9533 ------------------------------ From: John Erling Blad Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:35:04 +0100 Subject: Re: Pulser heard on Saturday ! Perhaps they can't avoid it. Eg. they are heading for a specific location. So where did it go? JOhn ------------------------------ From: larry@ichips.intel.com Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 12:50:57 -0800 Subject: Re: Pulser heard on Saturday ! + Unsolved Mysteries Wed. Night Alert larry@ichips.intel.com writes: >> segment about Steve's first Pulser sighting. Aviation Week and Space >> Technology magazine has also released the "gold dripper" and "Holy Cow" >> videos for use on this segment. Rich asks: >What are these video segments about? I've never heard of them. The gold dripper is the subject of a light intensified video shot by a AW&ST film crew at around 12:40AM on 7/25/91. The AW&ST crew was just North of Edwards North Base looking south onto Edwards when the object appeared to fly over Edwards from west to south. Watch the show, I hope they show it. We can talk about it after you see it. >> The track was from southwest to northeast. There was no noticeable radio >> traffic change during the incident. >> >> Additional details are being withheld to help act as a filtering mechanism. >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Douglas J. Tiffany writes: >Exactly, what does this mean? Just what it says. Just like police investigators hold back details of crime cases. It helps sort the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. John Erling Blad: >Perhaps they can't avoid it. Eg. they are heading for a specific location. >So where did it go? If we had enough people in different areas, we could track it to destination. By the way. Unsolved Mysteries (UM) asked the Government just what Steve's pulser contrail photo showed. Watch UM for the answer. Also, several people have asked if Steve's TR-3 video would be shown. It will indeed be shown, from what I hear. UM also asked the government what that video showed. That answer was rather interesting as well. UM even followed that one up. I hope they mention the follow-up. ------------------------------ From: C.R.Harding@massey.ac.nz (Craig Harding) Date: Wed, 02 Mar 1994 10:55:33 +1200 Subject: Re: Pulser heard on Saturday ! + Unsolved Mysteries Wed. Night Alert larry@ichips.intel.com wrote: >By the way. Unsolved Mysteries (UM) asked the Government just what Steve's >pulser contrail photo showed. Watch UM for the answer. Is someone willing to summarise the salient points of the UM show after it= =20 airs, for those of us who won't be watching it (due to minor geographical=20 difficulties...)? -- C. ------------------------------ From: larry@ichips.intel.com Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:58:34 -0800 Subject: Re: Pulser heard on Saturday ! + Unsolved Mysteries Wed. Night Alert >>By the way. Unsolved Mysteries (UM) asked the Government just what Steve's >>pulser contrail photo showed. Watch UM for the answer. >Is someone willing to summarise the salient points of the UM show after it >airs, for those of us who won't be watching it (due to minor geographical >difficulties...)? I'm sure someone will. I don't want to make a big deal out of this. Of course the government doesn't announce anything on UM, so don't expect any earth shattering revelation. It's amusing what they claimed the TR-3 like thing was however. What the response of the referred to government agency was, is also interesting, and a little amusing. I hope they repeat it in the vernacular. I doubt however that they will. Larry ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V5 #24 ******************************** To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@mail.orst.edu". 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