From: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V5 #52 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Saturday, 2 April 1994 Volume 05 : Number 052 In this issue: Sr stuff Re: Talk about stealh! See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john.stone@shivasys.com Date: Fri, 01 Apr 94 19:44:59 Subject: Sr stuff Skunkers, Recently there has been some mention of the distance of SR from the ground according to a SR handbook that I have, from centerline of wheels to fulcrum center of gear which looks to be slightly inside the a/c the front is 4.36 ft and the rear is 5.43 ft. So there isn't a whole lot of room to put something under the SR. Also there was some talk about KC-135Q and KC-10's as refuelers. I just read recently that the first mission the KC-10 participated in along with KC-135Q's was the post-bombing recon missions over Libya. A boom operator I spoke with also said that the Q's had to have pumps and a different collection tank installed to make JP-7 work as it is significantly thicker than "normal" jet fuel and that the Q's could burn JP-7 but that it was rarely done as it required lots o'maintenance on the Q's engines afterwards. Also the Q's where the only '135 with a light under the tail to light up the recepient a/c for night refueling. I've checked numerous KC's since finding this out and I have not found any non Q's with this light. Go figure Keep up the good work Skunkers, John Stone / ^ \ ---(.)==<.>==(.)--- Habu ------------------------------ From: TRADER@cup.portal.com Date: Fri, 1 Apr 94 23:44:46 PST Subject: Re: Talk about stealh! In an earlier message, larry@ichips.intel.com wrote: >Horner, in his statement, said several OTHER efforts are underway by >U.S. Space Command to put real-time satellite information into the hands >of warfighters. > >The Air Force's TALON SHIELD effort, he said, capitalizes on RADIANT >IVORY and "will use MULTIPLE national and DSP sensors to increase the >situational awareness-thereby improving both the probability of detection >and the accuracy of missile launch parameters." The Navy and Air Force programs are part of the TENCAP (Technical Exploitation of National Capabilities) effort the U.S. military services have going right now. Among other Air Force TENCAP efforts, there have been the following programs: o TALON JADE - use of spy satellite data during a 1992 wargame in S. Korea. o TALON SWORD - an experimental program to provide satellite pictures directly to combat pilots. This effort seems to have been expanded under the CONSTANT SOURCE program. o ELLIPSE CHARLIE - use of satellite pictures by Air Force special operations forces. o TALON HOOK - use of satellite intelligence to try and locate downed pilots. o TALON LINK - provided simulated satellite information as part of training programs. Also, the Air Force is working on a program to provide digital satellite imagery receivers to various parts of the Department of Defense through a highly classified program known as "Defense Dissemination System" (Program Element 0301313F). Paul McGinnis / TRADER@cup.portal.com ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V5 #52 ******************************** To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@mail.orst.edu". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-skunk-works": subscribe skunk-works-digest local-skunk-works@your.domain.net To unsubscribe, send mail to the same address, with the command: unsubscribe skunk-works-digest in the body. Administrative requests, problems, and other non-list mail can be sent to either "skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu" or, if you don't like to type a lot, "prm@mail.orst.edu A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "skunk-works-digest" in the commands above with "skunk-works". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from mail.orst.edu, in /pub/skunk-works/digest/vNN.nMMM (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).