From: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V5 #120 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Friday, 1 July 1994 Volume 05 : Number 120 In this issue: (I) NY Times Magazine article on Glenn Campbell and Groom Lake Help needed Re: Help needed Re: Help needed G2 on Ben Rich memoirs See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Allegrezza 30-Jun-1994 0828 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 08:26:43 EDT Subject: (I) NY Times Magazine article on Glenn Campbell and Groom Lake As previously noted, the NY Times Magazine, 26 June issue contained an article on Glenn Campbell and Groom Lake. The writer spent a day with Glenn, observing Groom and dodging the security folks, only to end up being IDed and released by a local sheriff's deputy. There was also more detail than I've seen elsewhere about the pending lawsuit against the Government filed by 39 former Nellis area workers who claim that they were exposed to hazardous materials emanating from open burn pits at Groom. As the article focused on Glenn and the politics surrounding the base secrecy issue, there was little technical detail on nay of the testing supposedly going on at Groom. Aurora and the TR-3A were mentioned, but only in passing. Perhaps the most interesting part of the article, for me, was the following quote from an Air Force spokesman (no unit or organization affiliation given): "Meanwhile, as Campbell continues playing to an ever-increasing audience, his efforts are not lost on the Air Force, which he's placed on his 'Desert Rat' mailing list for free. 'We read his publication,' says Air Force Col. Douglas Kennett, 'and we know what Mr. Campbell's doing near a base that may -- or may not -- exist. While Mr. Campbell says the base is there, and while the Soviets appear to have photographed a base there, the Air Force is aware of those times when Mr. Campbell or Russian spy satellites might be looking us over -- and we can adjust our activities for that. That is, if any activities are going on at a base that may -- or may not -- exist.'" Talk about a wink and a nudge -- that's about as close as anyone had come to getting an admission from the USAF that the base exists. George George Allegrezza | Digital Equipment Corporation | Digital is like one big turkey farm on the Littleton MA USA | week before Thanksgiving. allegrezza@tnpubs.enet.dec.com | ------------------------------ From: John Regus Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 12:16:44 -0500 (CST) Subject: Help needed This is a non-skunk problem but I need help- I have gone through my reporting CoC and have even contact the Air Force public information office at the Puzzle e Palace. I need d rank insignia for Royal Thai Air Force enlisted and officers. I don't want to snap to for a private... Everyone at DoD USAF has tried to be helpful but since SEATO went fanny up...keeping up with these things has not been n a priority item except to Grumman who was trying to sell E2Cs to the RTAF a couple of years ago. Thanks, John F. Regus | (713) 960-0045 | SYS/370/390 SYSTEM SOFTWARE ENGINEERING WUI:REGUSHOU | ------------------------------ From: johnk@consilium.com (John Kelleher) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 11:31:13 -0700 Subject: Re: Help needed John Regus writes: >I have gone through my reporting CoC and have even contact the Air Force >public information office at the Puzzle e Palace. >I need d rank insignia for Royal Thai Air Force enlisted and officers. John - The AF has a PIO at the Puzzle Palace? Most interesting. The best solution I can suggest is that you contact the Public Information Office at Lackland AFB in San Antonio. They hold the allied students' English training courses there, and deal with visiting military personnel from all over. They should at least be able to point you in the right direction. Or, as an alternative, try calling the Thai Embassy in Washington and ask to speak to their Military Attache Ofice. Good luck. John Kelleher ------------------------------ From: John Regus Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 13:56:16 -0500 (CST) Subject: Re: Help needed I will try Lackland. I should have remembered that it was the foreign student exchange center. Puzzle Palace = Pentagon Sabadee, John F. Regus | (713) 960-0045 | SYS/370/390 SYSTEM SOFTWARE ENGINEERING WUI:REGUSHOU | On Thu, 30 Jun 1994, John Kelleher wrote: > John Regus writes: > > >I have gone through my reporting CoC and have even contact the Air Force > >public information office at the Puzzle e Palace. > >I need d rank insignia for Royal Thai Air Force enlisted and officers. > > > John - > > The AF has a PIO at the Puzzle Palace? Most interesting. > > The best solution I can suggest is that you contact the Public > Information Office at Lackland AFB in San Antonio. They hold the allied > students' English training courses there, and deal with visiting military > personnel from all over. They should at least be able to point you in the > right direction. Or, as an alternative, try calling the Thai Embassy in > Washington and ask to speak to their Military Attache Ofice. > > Good luck. > > John Kelleher > > > ------------------------------ From: larry@ichips.intel.com Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 14:05:24 -0700 Subject: G2 on Ben Rich memoirs With a current publish date of: 10/4/94 Title: "Skunk Works - A Personal Memoir Of My Years At Lockheed" Authors: Ben R. Rich with Leo Janos Publisher: Little Brown Co. Boston, MA ISBN: 0-316-74330-5 I have a friend who is reviewing a pre-publication copy of the book now. It's excellent, from what I'm told. Larry ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V5 #120 ********************************* To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@mail.orst.edu". 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