From: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V5 #143 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Saturday, 23 July 1994 Volume 05 : Number 143 In this issue: Secrecy activist arrested!! Re: Dayton Re: Dayton Re: Dayton Re: Dayton Re: Does anybody know... SR-71/F-117A Books, etc. MD-21 See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRADER@cup.portal.com Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 00:44:47 PDT Subject: Secrecy activist arrested!! [this item showed up in my electronic mail. Personally, I hope Glenn Campbell sues the Air Force bastards behind his arrest.] Date: July 20, 1994 4:44 YST From: PsychoSpy@aol.com Subj: Groom Lake Desert Rat #12 -- FLASH! THE GROOM LAKE DESERT RAT. An On-Line Newsletter. Issue #12. July 20, 1994. Rachel, Nevada. Contact: 702-729-2648 !!!!!!!!!!! NEWS FLASH !!!!!!!!!!! ----- CAMPBELL ARRESTED DURING SECOND T.V. SEIZURE ----- Government oversight activist Glenn Campbell was arrested near Freedom Ridge yesterday evening (July 19) when he attempted to prevent the seizure by county authorities of a news crew's video tape. In circumstances reminiscent of the April 4 ABC News incident, a news crew from KNBC-TV of Los Angeles had filmed an interview with Campbell at the popular viewpoint overlooking the unacknowledged Groom Lake air base. The crew consisted of reporter Chuck Henry and camera operator Julie Yellen. The two assert that they did not film the restricted base itself, which is visible at a distance of twelve miles from this public location. They, like ABC, intended to emphasize the absurdities of being able to see the base but not photograph it, according to the signs posted in the area. About two hours after they arrived, Campbell and the crew were joined on Freedom Ridge by a Lincoln County Sheriff's deputy, Sergeant Doug Lamoreaux, who said that the security patrols had seen them pointing their camera at the base. The anonymous security guards--popularly nicknamed the "Cammo Dudes" for their camouflage fatigues--are a private contract force that patrols the Groom-area military border and adjoining public lands. Although widely rumored to be employed by the EG&G corporation under Air Force contract, their existence is not publicly acknowledged by either the military or EG&G. Previous reports by the nameless security guards resulted in the seizure of ABC's tape and equipment, which was later returned. Lamoreaux asked that the KNBC crew turn over all their videotapes to him for inspection by the Air Force. Reporter Henry said that he could not do this, but that Lamoreaux could view the tapes through the camera's viewfinder to assure that none were of the secret base. Lamoreaux replied that he could not view the tapes because he did not have the required security clearance and authority to do so. The tapes, he said, could only be viewed by the Air Force. That claim appears to be logically inconsistent. On the public land where this exchange took place, the base itself was clearly visible in the distance. If the crew had taken any pictures of the base, they would have been no different than what Lamoreaux could see himself. Why would viewing the video tape require a security clearance? A sudden rainstorm and the threat of flash flooding interrupted the encounter. With the deputy following them, Campbell and the crew, who were travelling in a single four wheel drive vehicle, were directed to drive down from Freedom Ridge to the Groom Lake Road. There they were joined by a second Sheriff's deputy, Kelly Bryant. On Groom Lake Road, Lamoreaux asked Campbell and the crew to step out of their vehicle. The discussion then resumed between Lamoreaux and Henry, while Campbell and Yellen remained silent. Lamoreaux repeated his request for the crew's video tapes. Henry reiterated that although they had taken no pictures of the base, he did not wish turn over the tapes. He repeated the offer to let Lamoreaux inspect them through the camera's viewfinder. Lamoreaux then said that, since the crew would not turn over the tapes voluntarily, he would seize them without a warrant. Lamoreaux claimed that the crew had pointed the camera at his vehicle as he approached them on Freedom Ridge--a charge the crew denied. He said that since this was also in the general direction of the base, his viewing of this action constituted "probable cause" for the seizure of the tapes. He said that a Supreme Court ruling, which he could not name, gave him the authority to seize such "contraband" from a vehicle without a warrant. Lamoreaux and Deputy Bryant then moved toward the crew's vehicle with the apparent intention of searching it and seizing the tapes. At this point Campbell, who had been standing on the opposite side of the vehicle, reached in and pushed down the door locks on the side that Lamoreaux was approaching. Lamoreaux said, "You're under arrest." Campbell was immediately handcuffed and placed in Deputy Bryant's vehicle. Lamoreaux then proceeded to thoroughly search the crew's vehicle, although permission had not been granted and no warrant issued. Under threat of arrest by Lamoreaux, the two members of the film crew did not attempt to interfere. Lamoreaux seized all recorded video tapes in the vehicle--five altogether. He did not seize the camera, blank tapes or any other equipment. After the video tapes were taken, the crew was told that they were free to go. Campbell was taken in handcuffs to the Lincoln County Sheriff's Substation in Alamo for booking. He was charged with Obstructing a Public Officer (NRS 197.190). This is the first time Campbell has been charged with any crime in Lincoln County. He posted $600 bail and was released. Arraignment will be Wednesday, Aug. 3, 1:30 pm, in Alamo Justice Court. Prior to the ABC and KNBC seizures, Campbell has been involved in three incidents in which film was taken by the Sheriff's Dept., turned over to the Air Force and never returned. In separate incidents on June 16, 1993, and June 30, 1993, Campbell was seen photographing a helicoptor over public land near the military border--but not near any locations where the Groom Lake base is visible. Campbell voluntarily gave his film to Sgt. Lamoreaux upon request, with the explicit understanding that it would be developed and returned. Campbell saw this as an opportunity to prove that he had taken no illegal pictures, but his film was never returned; no charges were filed against him and no notice was given that the film was being formally seized. In a third incident, on March 23, 1994, Campbell escorted a reporter and a photographer for the New York Times to Freedom Ridge. The photographer was asked by Lamoreaux to turn over his film, and he voluntarily relinquished two rolls. However, that film is widely assumed to be blank. Campbell's previous experiences of having his film effectively confiscated without a warrant may have prompted his actions in the most recent incident. It is unclear why the Sheriff's Dept. did not seek a search warrant for KNBC as they did for ABC News or whether such a warrantless search is legal. ----- NOTES ----- The Nevada statute under which Campbell was charged reads as follows: "197.190 OBSTRUCTING PUBLIC OFFICER. Every person who, after due notice, shall refuse or neglect to make or furnish any statement, report or information lawfully required of him by any public officer, or who, in such statement, report or information shall make any willfully untrue, misleading or exaggerated statement, or who shall willfully hinder, delay or obstruct any public officer in the discharge of his official powers or duties, shall, where no other provision of law applies, be guilty of a misdemeanor." The Supreme Court ruling Sgt. Lamoreaux cited to justify the seizure--the name of which he could not recall--was later revealed by Deputy Bryant to be the case of "Ross vs. U.S." No details of this ruling were available at press time. The Lincoln County Sheriff's Dept. is under contract with the U.S. Air Force to investigate, on demand, suspected violations of law along the military border. According to a recent county invoice, the Air Force pays the Sheriff's Dept. approximately $50,000 per year for this service. ##### ------------------------------ From: naa2254@dsacam.dsac.dla.mil (Tom Ohmer) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 10:11:28 -0400 Subject: Re: Dayton In reply to the mail from ... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- T, Well, it looks like you and I are the only ones from the list going. ;-( I'll be there tomorrow (Sat). The wife(-to-be) and kid will be with me, but I shouldn't have any problem meeting in front of the F-117 after the T-birds show. I'll be wearing a blue ballcap with "DSAC" in white across it and a gray An-225 T-shirt. See ya there! - -- Tom Ohmer, Computer Specialist, DSAC-AAA 1 614 692 8059 DLA Systems Automation Center, PO Box 1605, Columbus, OH 43216-5002 tohmer@dsac.dla.mil DoD #1436 ...osu-cis!dsac!tohmer "Sorry, we're closed." -- Sam Malone ------------------------------ From: Jeff Bailey Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 12:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Dayton According to Tom Ohmer: > > In reply to the mail from ... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > T, > > Well, it looks like you and I are the only ones from the list going. ;-( > I'll be there tomorrow (Sat). The wife(-to-be) and kid will be with me, > but I shouldn't have any problem meeting in front of the F-117 after the > T-birds show. I'll be wearing a blue ballcap with "DSAC" in white across > it and a gray An-225 T-shirt. See ya there! > There may be three more of us on Saturday. When do the shows start? I really don't want to have to leave home at 3:00 AM but then again I wouldn't want to miss anything good. > > -- > Tom Ohmer, Computer Specialist, DSAC-AAA 1 614 692 8059 > DLA Systems Automation Center, PO Box 1605, Columbus, OH 43216-5002 > tohmer@dsac.dla.mil DoD #1436 ...osu-cis!dsac!tohmer > "Sorry, we're closed." -- Sam Malone > +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeff Bailey (Sys. Analyst) | | 1992 Corvette | | Department of Mathematics & |-------------------------| LT1/Z07/MN6/CVA1/ | | Computer Science | Home:(216)654-2649 | U1E/AC1/UJ6/ABB8 | | Kent State University | Dept:(216)672-4004 x116 |-------------------| | Kent - OH 44242 U.S.A. | Fax: (216)672-7824 | 1979 TR7 roadster | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: Kathyrn Schnars Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 13:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Dayton We are going to be there too -- we just decided so -- and we will also be at the F-117 after the T-birds show. We wear blue caps with a "Yankee Air Force" patch on them. See you there, - --Andreas & Kathryn - --- --- Andreas & Kathryn Gehrs-Pahl Absolute Software 313 West Court St. #305 schnars@umcc.ais.org Flint, MI 48502-1239 Tel: (810) 238-8469 - --- --- ------------------------------ From: brndlfly@MIT.EDU Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 13:30:15 EDT Subject: Re: Dayton Cool deal. I'll be looking for y'all. Gates open at 6:30, shows start in earnest at 10:00 (Formula V racing!) and the B-2 is scheduled for 2:00. Saturday is generally not too crowded, but don't quote me on that. Parking at the Air Force Museum is a good idea. It's straighforward from Columbus to the AFM, and they've got a really good bus system from there to the show. And when you get out of the car, you're at the Air Force Museum:o)# Alright, we have the rental car, I have the camera and the film. DJ's got the Mountain Dew and the Necco wafers, and we're heading for the Mass. Pike right as soon as I log out. See ya at the show! -T T Velazquez MIT Aero & Astro brndlfly@athena.mit.edu "Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft... And the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labor." -Wernher von Braun ------------------------------ From: ETate@lan.mcl.bdm.com Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 11:24:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Does anybody know... Rick Pavek wrote: >Subject: Does anybody know... >What JP-8 is? Also... what aircraft use it? In >quantities of approximately 30,000 lbs? >In fact, I'd really be interested if someone can >pull a manual off a shelf and list all the >JP's... and their characteristics. >I hear it goes up past JP-10 now. Whereas JP-4 is a wide-cut, naphtha mixture, sort of 65% gasoline and 35% other light petroleum distillates, JP-8 is a kerosene-based fuel more like Jet A, but with a higher percentage of aromatics (25% vs. 20%). Its final b.p. is 300C vs. 270C for JP-4, and recovers fractions over a narrower range than JP-4. Not surprisingly, its flash point is also higher than JP-4's: 100F vs. - -10 to 30F for JP-4. The USAF is slowly converting its aircraft to JP-8 for fire safety reasons. The F-22, for example, will carry about 22,000lbs of JP-8 internally. JP-10 is a norbornane-based fuel, exo-tetrahydro- di(cyclopentadiene). There are other fuels under consideration or being researched (e.g., JP-900, like JP-8 but thermally stable to 900F), and some other aromatics. But operational use of any of these for other than ordnance is problematic, since availability worldwide of cheap fuel is a key factor in deciding which one to use for your fleet. A good resource book is published by the S.A.E. (yeah, the _automotive_ guys): Coordinating Research Council, CRC Report No. 530, "Handbook of Aviation Fuel Properties," May 1988. It's available from: Society of Automotive Engineers, Inc. General Publications Department 400 Commonwealth Drive Warrendale, Pennsylvania 15096 Hope this helps. __________________________________________________ C. E. Tate BDM Federal, Inc. Program Manager, Next Generation Aircraft Firefighting Requirements, Improvements and Technologies __________________________________________________ A loaf of bread, a jug of Gatorade, and a 600ft/min thermal... __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: phil@sonosam.wisdom.bubble.org (Phil Verdieck ) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 13:38:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SR-71/F-117A Books, etc. I have recently seen an engaging off from the The Military Book Club. Included are two books, one of which should be fairly well known to this list. These are "Lockheed SR-71 The Secret Missions Exposed" by Paul F. Crickmore and "Stealth Fighter Pilot" by D.M. Giangrece. I am pretty sure "Secret Missions" has been discussed here, but I can't remember what was said. Can anyone give me info on either of these books. I am leanding towards "Secret Missions" currently. Thanx in advance Phil V. Phil@sonosame.wisdom.bubble.org ------------------------------ From: Jack-Lee Gibbons Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 16:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: MD-21 I don't intend this as a plug or ad for a product, I just thought some people on this list might be interested. My company, Spectrum HoloByte, is publishing a new product called Wild Blue Yonder: 50 Years of G's and Jets. One of the planes that we feature is the SR-71. There are some great pictures of the 71 as well as a few pics of the MD-21 with the drone mated (hence the MD). It will be on CD-ROM for both PC and Mac and should be out in about a month. Just thought you might want to know. Jack >:-[ Here thar be monsters! "Hey ho! Let's go!" lumber@netcom.com ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V5 #143 ********************************* To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@mail.orst.edu". 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