From: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V5 #173 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Tuesday, 20 December 1994 Volume 05 : Number 173 In this issue: Re: YF-23 Display Re: YF-23 Display Re: Re: SR-71 to fly spy missions by April Re: lenticular vehicles and Lazar's claim (I) Lenticular vehicles and warps (not OS/2) power-outage Off the Lights Report on Boscombe Down incident Phenomena Points of Contact RE: Report on Boscombe Down incident deadly virus Fortean Times Nos. 75, 76 & Stuff My own personal Spam :) The Program for Extraordinary Experience Research See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bernie Rosen Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 07:35:35 PST Subject: Re: YF-23 Display In msg <199412160715.XAA27481@netcom4.netcom.com> you wrote: >> He could always go out at midnight, pile a bunch of junk in his >> backyard, cover it with a cammo canvas, and call it a secret project!! > > He could mount a placard saying "stealth aircraft" in front of an empty >lot and have people wondering how the technology got so good in the visual... This was done about 5 years ago at American University in Washington, DC. An area in the Quad was roped off and such a placard installed. Most of Washington was amused. Not all. Bernie - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - brosen@ames.arc.nasa.gov NASA Ames AIS Office 233-7 (415) 604-6558 Moffett Field, CA 94035 / Disclaimer: It would be inappropriate to assume views I express \ \ are those of anyone directly or indirectly employing my services / ------------------------------ From: Christian Jacobsen Date: 16 Dec 1994 08:28:48 U Subject: Re: YF-23 Display Subject: Time:8:23 AM OFFICE MEMO RE>>YF-23 Display Date:12/16/94 I was actually at an airshow once where they had several planes all lined up on display. The last stall just had a large ring of caution tape around a plane-sized area of tarmac. In front was the sign: "Stealth bomber" The funniest part is that I saw people taking pictures!!! - - Christian - -------------------------------------- Date: 12/16/94 12:35 AM To: Christian Jacobsen From: Jay Reynolds Freeman > He could always go out at midnight, pile a bunch of junk in his > backyard, cover it with a cammo canvas, and call it a secret project!! He could mount a placard saying "stealth aircraft" in front of an empty lot and have people wondering how the technology got so good in the visual... - ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by qmgate.arc.nasa.gov with SMTP;16 Dec 1994 00:34:35 U Received: (from daemon@localhost) by gaia.ucs.orst.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) id XAA27169 for skunk-works-outgoing; Thu, 15 Dec 1994 23:15:58 -0800 Received: from netcom4.netcom.com (freeman@netcom4.netcom.com [192.100.81.107]) by gaia.ucs.orst.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA27140 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 1994 23:15:55 -0800 Received: by netcom4.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id XAA27481; Thu, 15 Dec 1994 23:15:19 -0800 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 23:15:19 -0800 From: freeman@netcom.com (Jay Reynolds Freeman) Message-Id: <199412160715.XAA27481@netcom4.netcom.com> To: skunk-works@gaia.ucs.orst.edu Subject: Re: YF-23 Display Sender: skunk-works-owner@gaia.ucs.orst.edu Precedence: bulk ------------------------------ From: Mary Shafer Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 11:27:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Re: SR-71 to fly spy missions by April My apologies to Joe Donaghue for my remarkably testy answer--I actually was going to tell you-all about 832 as soon as I knew what the real deal was. This whole thing has been very nebulous and we didn't actually commit to sending them 832 until about 3 weeks ago. I _think_ that we are loaning them 832 so that they can make the Congressional deadline, but they're going to return it just as soon as they get one of their own flying. All 832 had done here is sit on the ramp for the tour and be dragged down the flightline for the Edwards open house. It's not like we're handing off a research asset. Anyway, when I find out exactly what's happening with it, I'll pass it along. Regards, Mary Mary Shafer DoD #0362 KotFR shafer@ursa-major.spdcc.com URL http://www.dfrf.nasa.gov/People/Shafer/mary.html Some days it don't come easy/And some days it don't come hard Some days it don't come at all/And these are the days that never end.... ------------------------------ From: larry@ichips.intel.com Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 12:09:56 -0800 Subject: Re: lenticular vehicles and Lazar's claim >Regarding the saucer vehicle article in Pop. Mechanics, Larry wrote: >>So the story was good actually, except that it was a bit shallow, as there were >>other disk shaped spacecraft and aircraft that were studied that they didn't >>include in the piece. They just had the standard ones that everybody knows >>about. >George Allegrezza responds: >I hadn't heard or seen anything about the Mach 4 Lockheed design that's in the >story, so that was news to me. Yes. > I guess the major disk-shaped spacecraft that >comes to mind is the GE lenticular command module/RV for the original (Army/JPL) >Apollo program, which I didn't see mentioned in the article. Neat, I'm not sure I've seen that one. Is the title of the reference handy? I have seen some of the old AAS published lenticular shaped RV studies done by several aerospace firms back in the 50's and 60's, but I can't say that I've seen that one. Oh wait, was that that HUGE SSTO design? > Are there others >for which some information is available? Yes, I will look that stuff up this weekend. I have a real nice one that I got from the proceedings of an X-15/Dyna Soar (essentially) conference that was held in the early 1960's. It was a classic saucer shape, even with a cupola on top, and two small stabilizers behind the cupola. I'll get the full reference this weekend. Nice black and white pictures. Interesting performance data. Also during Project Mercury (or was it evaluating landing techniques for Gemini) I've seen black and white photo sequences of disk shaped RV models being used to evaluate ground and water landings. This was in an old early 1960's AW&ST. >And finally, I don't want to go down the Bob Lazar rathole, but what exactly is >supposed to propel his little gizmo? I'm assuming a nuclear power source, but >how is that applied to the propulsion problem? Again, I'm not trying to start a >discussion on the viability of Lazar, but if we make the assumption that the >thing exists, how is it supposed to work? To summarize the idea: A matter/anti-matter reaction is somehow able to generate gravity waves which were somehow amplified and somehow directed via a waveguide on the vehicle to warp spacetime in the selected travel direction, actually bringing the desired destination to the vehicle. He asserted that installed and uninstalled tests with this engine actually were conducted out in the Nevada test range. Being a watcher of the excellent PBS TV show NOVA, enables one to ask some serious questions about this idea. Especially in the area of Gravity Waves, or G-waves, for short. If you check out the NOVA show entitled "Waves Of The Future", which is about G-waves (my Blockbuster Video dealer has it in stock for rental, you might check yours if you're interested), you'll learn a lot of interesting layman level theory about G-waves, from some great experts on the theory, like Kip Thorne of Cal Tech. Some of the highlights are: 1. G-waves have not been observed yet experimentally. 2. G-waves go through EVERYTHING, indeed, theoretically they are ripples in space-time. Given the above two alone, the questions one could ask are: Gee, if they were testing that G-wave generator/amplifier out in Nevada, and this engine has the power to warp spacetime to distant stars, how come some of the effects haven't been observed at least in some of the G-wave labs around the world, who are trying to detect G-waves? Remember that G-waves go through everything. That begs another question. Since G-waves go through everything, how does one direct them in a duct? Directing waves in a duct waveguide works for E-M energy, but how could it work for G-waves, which penetrate everything? 3. G-waves are theoretically caused by the spacetime gravity well interactions between binary stars as they orbit around each other, and also by the explosion of stars. They also have polarity, which is very interesting. That begs another couple questions: Perhaps a Matter/Anti-Matter annihilation reaction would cause some kind of G-wave, but gravity at that scale is so weak and undetectable, how would you be able to amplify it, and how much energy are we talking, given that massive binaries and exploding stars theoretically cause G-waves very difficult for us to even detect? So, until someone can answer these questions, I am very doubtful about Mr. Lazar's claims. If you can answer them, please do. Now, I'm not against an idea that allows worm-hole like travel, I just don't think this is it! Larry ------------------------------ From: George Allegrezza 16-Dec-1994 1616 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 94 16:22:05 EST Subject: (I) Lenticular vehicles and warps (not OS/2) Larry writes: >George Allegrezza wrote: >> I guess the major disk-shaped spacecraft that >>comes to mind is the GE lenticular command module/RV for the original >(Army/JPL) Apollo program, which I didn't see mentioned in the article. >Neat, I'm not sure I've seen that one. Is the title of the reference handy? It would be the GE response to the original Army Apollo RFP. It would be discussed in the NASA history of the Apollo vehicles, which I think is "Chariots for Apollo." (corrections invited) Convair and Martin were the other respondents. This was in 1960, before a moon landing and North American were in the picture. >I have seen some of the old AAS published lenticular shaped RV studies done >by several aerospace firms back in the 50's and 60's, but I can't say that I've >seen that one. Oh wait, was that that HUGE SSTO design? No, that was Phil Bono's fanciful idea for a 454-foot-dia, nuclear SSTO with a 1M lb. payload. >> Are there others >>for which some information is available? >Yes, I will look that stuff up this weekend. I have a real nice one that I >got from the proceedings of an X-15/Dyna Soar (essentially) conference that was >held in the early 1960's. It was a classic saucer shape, even with a cupola >on top, and two small stabilizers behind the cupola. I'll get the full >reference this weekend. Nice black and white pictures. Interesting performance >data. That'd be interesting. Thanks. [description of Lazar's saucer propulsion system deleted] >So, until someone can answer these questions, I am very doubtful about Mr. >Lazar's claims. If you can answer them, please do. Thanks for the tutorial. No, I doubt I can answer the questions, or that anyone can. Thanks Larry. George George Allegrezza | Digital Equipment Corporation | Mobile Systems Business | Littleton MA USA | allegrezza@tnpubs.enet.dec.com | ------------------------------ From: J=ROGERS%MAO%144FW@ANG144FS.ang.af.mil Date: Sat, 17 Dec 94 04:14:59 PST Subject: power-outage This maybe off subject for this list, but here goes- Does anyone have any ideas on how or why many thousands of people had their power (as in AC) interrupted the other night at around 0200 all across the western 1/3 of the US. Seems strange... jim- ticking away the moments that make up a dull day.... ------------------------------ From: I am the NRA Date: Sat, 17 Dec 94 17:01:47 EST Subject: Off the Lights >This maybe off subject for this list, but here goes- It is, imo, so this is breifer than it might be. >Does anyone have any ideas on how or why many thousands of people had their >power (as in AC) interrupted the other night at around 0200 all across the >western 1/3 of the US. The formal statemen was that they lost an interconnect. They named the interconnect, but that escapes me. They did not say WHY they lost it. Winter Weather seems likely. Check in sci.electronics or one of the mumble.energy groups, maybe, if accessible. >Seems strange... As one knowledgeable, tho not professional, in the techniques, it seems reasonable. (I could do a para or two, bt it is a bit off topic..) regards dwp ------------------------------ From: pete@ide.com (Peter Coe) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 10:25:22 -0800 Subject: Report on Boscombe Down incident There is a good article in today's Electronic Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk) about the crash of a plane at Britain's experimental test airfield. I won't repost the article as it is copyright, but to summarise, informed opinion believes that the plane was a TR-3A, and that both crew were killed in a fire after the crash. - -- - -- Peter Coe - -- Interactive Development Environments - -- 595 Market Street, 10th Floor, San Francisco CA 94105 - -- +1 (415) 543-1314 x238 Fax: +1 (415) 543-0145 - -- ------------------------------ From: "Terry Colvin" Date: Mon, 19 Dec 94 16:22:14 EST Subject: Phenomena Points of Contact Hello The phenomena message broadcast below is intended as a public service announcement. My only intent is to get other sources of information out to the general public. Ciao, Terry/1623MST/2323UTC(Zulu)/19Dec94. ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: Phenomena Points of Contact Author: Terry Colvin at FHU1 Date: 7/12/1994 7:34 AM Ben, this is a corrected copy. **************************************************************** Howdy Ben, Good to hear from you on 3 Dec. I cited the wrong subject; Anybody Out There? instead of "your opinions?". Anyway, trust you got the episode guide (think I saw another post from you on that). Below is my review of three good sources of phenomena study. Enjoy and write... Ciao, Terry ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: Phenomena POCs Author: Terry Colvin at FHU1 Date: 6/12/1994 9:51 AM Below are three sources of information on phenomena: anomalies, UFOs, and Fortean. (1) Science Frontiers; Sourcebook Project; P.O. Box 107; Glen Arm, Maryland 21057; USA Published and edited by William R. Corliss, SF is a bimonthly collection of digests of scientific anomalies in the current literature. Bill summarizes in short paragraphs, gives full references, and often comments. Subject areas include Archeology, Astronomy, Biology, Geology, Geophysics, Psychology, Physics, Mathematics, and Unclassified. A Book Supplement comes with each issue. A sample and up to one year are free. Subscription continues free with a purchase of one book every year or so. A straight subscription costs $7.00 (U.S.) for four tightly edited and printed pages of the newsletter and book supplement. (2) Flying Saucer Review; The Editor, FSR Publications Ltd.; P.O. Box 162; High Wycombe, Bucks., HP135DZ, England. Published since 1955 repeat 1955, the current editor is Gordon Creighton, MA, FRGS, FRAS. Only one line describes the intent: Quote The international journal of cosmology and eschatology, and for the discussion of reports of unidentified flying objects and their alien occupants. Unquote The price is steep, but the quality of content and publishing format compensates for most people interested in this subject. Four (4) issues per year, about 26 pages each, large format: United Kingdom - *L15.00 (single copies L4.00 each)*=Pounds All other countries (including USA) - L18.00 OR $US35.00 (single copies L5.00 OR $US9.00, all post free) (3) Fortean Times U.S. subscription: Fenner, Reed & Jackson, Inc.; PO Box 754; Manhasset, NY 11030. Other subscriptions through: John Brown Publishing; FREEPOST (SW6096); Frome, Somerset BA11 1YA, United Kingdom. Their E-Mail Internet: bobR@forteana.win-uk.net -- repeat -- bobR@forteana.win-uk.net. Address inquiries to Bob Rickard or Paul Sieveking (co-editors). CAVEAT -- X-FILES & FORTEANA = One measures a circle beginning anywhere. Yes, it is phenomena of all sorts with a fortean twist which may appeal to X-Philers. Experimental pages are on the Internet via the Microcentre at the University of Dundee. Access using the URL: http://forteana.mic.dundee.ac.uk/ft. I quote from their editorial page: QUOTE Fortean Times is a bi-monthly magazine of news, reviews and research on strange phenomena and experiences, curiosities, prodigies and portents. It was founded in 1973 to continue the work of Charles Fort. Throughout his life, Fort was sceptical about scientific ex- planations, observing how scientists argued according to their own beliefs rather than the rules of evidence and that inconvenient data was ignored, suppressed, discredited or explained away (which is quite different from explaining a thing). UNQUOTE Subscription is steep: USA($30), rest of the world ($36) yearly for six issues, @ approx. 65 pages in 11.5" X 8" format, glossy stock, good photos, and excellent source references. These are culled from all types of media, including print, video, and computer programs. ------------------------------ From: George Allegrezza 20-Dec-1994 0820 Date: Tue, 20 Dec 94 08:20:06 EST Subject: RE: Report on Boscombe Down incident For those of us who don't have access to the Electronic Telegraph, could someone summarize the article for the list, in a non-violation of copyright kind of way? Thanks, George George Allegrezza | Digital Equipment Corporation | Mobile Systems Business | Littleton MA USA | allegrezza@tnpubs.enet.dec.com | ------------------------------ From: "Terry Colvin" Date: Tue, 20 Dec 94 16:21:17 EST Subject: deadly virus Message relayed FYI... ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: deadly virus Author: Terry Colvin at FHU1 Date: 2/12/1994 11:27 AM X-Author: rossix!window.dnet!lisa@openlink.openlink.com (The Giant Gila Lisa) David Allen wrote: People get *real* squirelly when dealing with LETHAL agents. Screw up and your dead. No second chances, no "tag your it, no take-backs." Consider Eboli-Zaiyre, a biosafety hazard level four (all this techno-jargon makes me giddy) which according to reputable authorities, does what AIDS does in ten years, in ten days. Like AIDS, it is primarily blood-borne, so you are technically safe if the blood got on your skin, unless you had a cut, or put it in your eyes or some other permiable tissue. ^^^ As a matter of fact, there's a good chance Ebola-Zaire is airborne. I'm currently reading Richard Preston's "The Hot Zone", in which he describes a Level 4 biocontainment area in which monkeys infected with Ebola-Zaire were kept on one side of the lab and healthy controls monkeys were kept on the other side, with open floor between them. Within two weeks, every single monkey was dead. The control monkeys were never in close proximity to the infected monkeys, nor were they deliberately infected. Somehow the virus crossed the room. By the way, AIDS is considered a Level 2 biohazard. This Ebola virus is very, very scary. Lisa Larkin lisa@window.rossinc.com ------------------------------ From: "Terry Colvin" Date: Tue, 20 Dec 94 16:25:33 EST Subject: Fortean Times Nos. 75, 76 & Stuff Message relayed FYI... ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: Fortean Times Nos. 75, 76 & Stuff Author: Terry Colvin at FHU1 Date: 25/10/1994 9:55 AM Hello Paul & Bob, Saw your E-mail/Internet address in a recent issue. Clock now reads 0519 hours, Mountain Daylight Time (Arizona doesn't use daylight "savings" time). Say, what about those "hamsters and tubes"? Re No. 75, p. 25: I view it as very unlikely the B-52 crewmembers were left behind. The map geography accurately shows an U.S. Air Force special operations team in NE Thailand was the more likely pick for a search and rescue insertion into Laos. Yes, the central area of SE Asia is tropical scrub, not triple canopy jungle. Some areas I saw were like woodlands in the American Midwest. In late 1973, I worked a microwave relay at Phu Mu (Pig Mountain) Signal Site near Mukdaharn (Thai town next to the Mekong River), and across from Savannakhet, Laos. Large USAF contingents were at Korat Royal Thai Air Force Base (RTAFB), Nakhon Phanom RTAFB, and Ubon RTAFB with U.S. Army elements at Warin Relay Site (outside Ubon RTAFB), Korat RTAFB, and Ramasun RRF (Radio "Research" Facility) near Udorn RTAFB. An 'elephant cage' exists at Ramasun RRF. On page 27, the "A.L.L S.H.O.O.K U.P" inset mentions Walter Read Army Hospital. This should read Walter Reed. Note: A really great book on the myriad jungle types and good descriptions of flora and fauna is "The Book of Great Jungles" by Ivan T. Sanderson. My co-workers and I are surprised you published on page 19 (No. 76), "Stealing the Hopi Soul". It seemed quite innocuous, forteanly speaking, but who knows how many pigeonholes are filling up your wall spaces! On page 50, Andrew Wacey writes like a latent aristocrat with words like "chattering classes". I agree there is almost always a grain of truth, but hack writers perpetuate conspiracy for the money and fame. After several years receiving "Science Frontiers" and corresponding with Bill Corliss, the photo on page 59 is the first one I've seen. Bob's review read well. I read No. 76 during my first of three weeks on TDY (temporary duty) as a support contractor to the Air Tasking Order system test held at the Blue Flag Facility, Hurlburt Field (Eglin Air Force Base), Florida. This is near Fort Walton Beach, 40 miles or so east of Pensacola in the Florida panhandle. The beach sand was very white, unknown mineral content (I'll ask my geology professor), and squeaked when trod upon with bare feet. We worked more than expected due to Saddam Hussein's political feint towards Kuwait. Some pilots and staff people were recalled. Well, Corliss certainly gleans mucho interesante informacion. Even my college textbooks in archaeology, geography, and geography the last two years have contained, often explicitly, quite a bit of Fortean stuff. We work with two programmers, but they are too discrete (1's and 0's) to help debug your purpose-built indexing program. BTW, have you considered translating some British words into American English? I know those last two words may be a contradiction; however, a few words escape me; e.g., the top middle word on page 50 (--fundie--). At first I thought it was a typo, but on second look it must be one of those peculiarly British words. Help! I'm looking forward to No. 77. You guys do great work. Terry E-Mail: COLVINT@CC.IMS.DISA.MIL P.S.: May I someday hope to see a photo of your pigeonhole "archives"? ------------------------------ From: "Terry Colvin" Date: Tue, 20 Dec 94 16:35:18 EST Subject: My own personal Spam :) Message is relayed with my warning that some of the 30 workshops are up to 25K bytes. ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: My own personal Spam :) Author: Patrick Douglas Crispen at smtp Date: 14/11/1994 6:48 AM Hi, kids :) If you know ANYONE who is interested in participating in an upcoming Roadmap workshop, it would mean a great deal to me if you would forward the following letter to them. The letter tells people who are not already subscribed to the Roadmap workshop how they can retrieve the Roadmap workshop lessons using a few simple LISTSERV file server commands. 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To unsubscribe from ANY Roadmap workshop, send an e-mail letter to LISTSERV@UA1VM.UA.EDU which says UNSUB * in the body of the letter ------------------------------ From: "Terry Colvin" Date: Tue, 20 Dec 94 16:22:56 EST Subject: The Program for Extraordinary Experience Research Message relayed FYI... ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: The Program for Extraordinary Experience Research Author: Terry Colvin at FHU1 Date: 6/12/1994 7:00 AM Even National Geographic jumped on the New Age bandwagon last weekend. The "Mysteries" show covered alien abduction (great sequence from outer space beyond Jupiter, to Earth, and into a bedroom), and cold-adapted dinosaurs in southern Australia (tropical and polar???). Oh, and our old friend (Dr.) John Mack commented on his research. ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: The Program for Extraordinary Experience Research Author: DYKH007@kiowa.astate.edu at smtp Date: 5/12/1994 4:55 PM For anyone who would like to share an x-file experience they had, there is a group who is interested. It is called PEER. It is non- profit and was founded in 1993. I have enclosed the following description of it. Taken from Abduction by John Mack. ********************************************************************** _The Program for Extraordinary Experience Research, PEER_ The program for Extraordinary Experience Research, PEER, is a nonprofit research and education group dedicated to a deeper understanding of experienced encounters with intelligent nonhuman beings, the phenomenon commonly called "alien abduction." PEER was founded in 1993 by Dr. John E. Mack as a project under the auspices of the Center for Psychology and Social Change. Peer works with experiencers and the theraputic community to foster an understanding of these experiences, develop a network of support and education, consider the implications of the phenomenon, and disseminate information to the general public. PEER is interested in exploring and documenting experiences worldwide. We would be happy to hear from individuals who would like to provide us with information or inquire about our program. All information sent to us will be kept confidential. Please do not send us original documents or anything that you wish to have returned. If you'd like to write to us, please include the form below (or a copy of it) with your letter. PEER P.O. BOX 382427 CAMBRIDGE, MA 02238 USA - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME_____________________________________________ ADDRESS__________________________________________ _________________________________________________ _________________________________________________ TELEPHONE (OPTIONAL)_____________________________ Please indicate your area(s) of interest. I am interested in: _______providing information about experiences for possible inclusion in your work (Please do not send more than two pages) _______helping experiencers in a theraputic context _______sharing cross-cultural information about the phenomenon _______making a donation to the program Other area(s) of interest______________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ Would you like to make your name and address available to receive mail? _______from PEER _______from other individuals or groups whose work relates to the phenomenon ********************************************************************** Kathleen DYKH007@KIOWA.ASTATE.EDU ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V5 #173 ********************************* To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@mail.orst.edu". 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