From: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V5 #277 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Tuesday, 23 May 1995 Volume 05 : Number 277 In this issue: Re:Hollywood -- Follow-up RE: Hollywood -- and Skunk Works planes Re: Skunk Works Digest V5 #276 Sea Shadow Missing RE: Hollywood -- and Skunk Works planes See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alun@corte-madera.geoquest.slb.com (Alun Whittaker) Date: Mon, 22 May 95 10:09:27 PDT Subject: Re:Hollywood -- Follow-up Before some zealot points out that movie trivia does not belong here, let me add that "Final Approach" was a SKUNK -- a real STINKEROO. If you locate it at the video store, you may become suspicious that the tape box notes rave about the quality of the sound effects and barely mention the pictures, story or actors. ALUN W... ------------------------------ From: "Terry Colvin" Date: Mon, 22 May 95 13:26:21 EST Subject: RE: Hollywood -- and Skunk Works planes FWIW, sending on the skunk-works where this thread began. Terry ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: RE: Hollywood -- and Skunk Works planes Author: forteana@PrimeNet.Com at smtp Date: 22/5/1995 10:23 AM Terry, Did you ever notice the B-2's in War of the Worlds, well they wern't B2's as we have to day but propeller driven versions, I think they were called X-47's, but they were made about 1950ish and didn't work very well. - ---------- | From: "Terry Colvin" | To: ; ; | Subject: Hollywood -- and Skunk Works planes | Date: Sunday, May 19, 1901 4:49PM | | Any comments or additional information is more than welcome. | | -- Andreas | | --- --- | Andreas & Kathryn Gehrs-Pahl E-Mail: schnars@ais.org | 313 West Court St. #305 or: gpahl@raptor.csc.flint.umich.edu | Flint, MI 48502-1239 | Tel: (810) 238-8469 WWW URL: http://www.umcc.umich.edu/~schnars/ | --- --- | | | | ------------------------------ From: "Michael William Freeman" Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 16:41:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Skunk Works Digest V5 #276 > > - - "Call to Glory" was made into a tv-series, which ran only one (or two) > seasons (1984/85). It had good U-2 and SR-71 footage. -- I wish they > would repeat this series, instead of stuff like "Babewatch"! "Calll to Glory" used to be shown in reruns on Lifetime, I'm not sure if it still is. the show with Wilfred Brimley was called "Our House" I think. The girl was a young Shannon Doherety. ------------------------------ From: rossix!philmc@openlink.openlink.com (Phil Mcintosh) Date: Mon, 22 May 95 15:42:59 -0700 Subject: Sea Shadow Missing To all "Sea Skunkers", The Hughes Marine Barge(HMB-1) that usually contains the LADC/USN SEA SHADOW is not at its regular mooring in Redwood City, California. I would think its heading to the Santa Cruz Islands, off of Ventura/Santa Barbara for more sea trials. Be on the lookout for a 5 story covered barge with a black 160 ft long Stealth Ship in it. Phil--- philmc@rossinc.com _________________________________________________________________________ I don't speak for Ross and they don't speak for me. ------------------------------ From: Kathryn & Andreas Gehrs-Pahl Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 22:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: Hollywood -- and Skunk Works planes Terry Colvin posted a response to my original post, apparently coming from the Forteana list. Unfortunately, the name or address of the original sender of this response was (as usual, I have to say) lost during the crossposting from Forteana. Anyway, the response was: >Did you ever notice the B-2's in War of the Worlds, well they wern't >B2's as we have to day but propeller driven versions, I think they were >called X-47's, but they were made about 1950ish and didn't work very well. The very short clip showed one of the two jet powered Northrop YB-49, used to depict a bomber attacking the Martians with a nuclear bomb -- which failed. The YB-49 (see below) was a jet-engined version of the Northrop YB-35. The B-35, Northrop Model NS-9, was designed during W.W.II (but lost due to several reasons, against the Convair B-36 -- but that is another story...). The detail design began in early 1942 and the XB-35 full scale mock-up was approved on 07/05/1942. The first of two XB-35s (USAF serial '42-13603' and '42-38323') flew for the first time on 06/25/1946. To validate the concept, Northrop also build 4 sub-scale (about 1/3rd. scale) vehicle: 4 Model N9M (later called N9M-1, N9M-2, N9M-A, and N9M-B). The last was restored to flying condition over a period of 12 years by volunteers at the Chino 'Planes of Fame Museum' and flew again, for the first time after about 45 years, on 11/11/1994. These 4 aircraft flew with neither civil registrations nor military serials, and the new civil registration of the N9M-B is (of course) 'N9MB'. 13 YB-35 pre-production (service test) aircraft (USAF serials '42-102366' - '42-102378') and 200 series B-35A were ultimately ordered (the latter from Martin), of which only the first YB-35 ('42-102366') flew. None of the series B-35A were ever build. The second and third YB-35 were modified to YB-35B, redesignated YB-49 (USAF serials '42-102367' and '42-102368'), with 8 jet engines inside the wing instead of the 4 piston engines, driving pusher-propellers. The first flew for the first time on 09/29/1947. It crashed on 06/05/1948 near Muroc AFB, which was later renamed Edwards AFB, after Capt. Glenn Edwards, the pilot on this flight. The second was later destroyed in an landing accident. Nine of the remaining eleven YB-35 were planned to be converted to similiar RB-35B with 8 jet engines, and another one was supposed to be used as a static test vehicle, but none were converted. The YRB-49A-NO '42-102376', Northrop Model NS-41, was the tenth YB-35, modified to have 4 jet engines in the wing, and 2 jet engines in under-wing pods, and flew for the first time on 05/04/1950. A contract for 30 RB-49A, 10 to be build by Northrop, and 20 at Convair, was canceled in April 1949. Both remaining XB-35, the 10 YB-35 and the YRB-49A, together with all spares and tools were destroyed -- one of the saddest chapters in aerospace history. The movie 'War of the Worlds' was filmed between 1952 and 1953, and used stock footage of one of the YB-49s. - -- Andreas - --- --- Andreas & Kathryn Gehrs-Pahl E-Mail: schnars@ais.org 313 West Court St. #305 or: gpahl@raptor.csc.flint.umich.edu Flint, MI 48502-1239 Tel: (810) 238-8469 WWW URL: http://www.umcc.umich.edu/~schnars/ - --- --- ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V5 #277 ********************************* To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@mail.orst.edu". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-skunk-works": subscribe skunk-works-digest local-skunk-works@your.domain.net To unsubscribe, send mail to the same address, with the command: unsubscribe skunk-works-digest in the body. 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