From: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V5 #312 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Saturday, 24 June 1995 Volume 05 : Number 312 In this issue: serial number UFO Top 10 sightings UFO posts Revised F117 cockpit... See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howard German" Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 10:30:24 EDT Subject: serial number Does anyone have the serial number of the most recent F117A that crashed on Zuni Indian property. I have not seen in any magazine article mention of the Serial Number. Thanks in advance. Howard ------------------------------ From: "Terry Colvin" Date: Fri, 23 Jun 95 07:35:23 EST Subject: UFO Top 10 sightings On June 9, Bruce Cordell wrote the following letter to the list: ************ I'm new to this list and am very interested in opinions about the Top 10 UFO sightings of this century. Those who are interested in nominating one or two or several (ordered) UFO events should mention their reasons for selecting each event as well as their selection criteria. ************ Greetings Dr. Bruce Cordell and UFO-L readers, I am a MUFON State Section Director in North Carolina, a sightee, and historian of science. Since I teach a small class on history of ETs and UFOs, with heavy emphasis on U.S. events, I couldn't resist making a fool out of myself by answering your question on the top ten UFO sightings of this century. I have selected those that have produced the greatest impact on the topic. 1. First, the USS Supply sighting on February 24, 1904, filed by Lt. Schofield. This probably had great impact on the developing scientific cadre at the Naval Observatory. 2. The Tunguska explosion on June 30, 1908 has had great effect on Russian scientists, although it has been dismissed too easily in the United States. This represented the start of a major flap of sightings that occurred later in 1908 and in early 1909 with reports of strange airships in Europe and Asia, with occupants speaking an unknown language. This is usually missed in official accounts, but probably not among many people of the period. 3. The August 26, 1942 anti-aircraft batteries firing on UFOs above war- nervous Los Angeles. Researchers seem to think public awareness started with the sightings around Roswell, but the flyers and the public were aware of strange things in the sky during the war. 4. Roswell in early July, 1947, is only the most famous part of many sightings, including Kenneth Arnold's, that occurred all over the US in 1947. 5. The July 1952 sightings and radar tracking of UFOs above Washington, DC. These sightings had profound effect on the public and most certainly some government groups. 6. The early 1950's contacts between metaphysical instructor George Adamski and someone who gave him advanced scientific knowledge, which he poorly represented and embellished in his public talks and books. Most people who talk about George Adamski have never read his books, especially the second and third ones in the series dealing with his alleged contacts. I have a whole file of things he wrote which since have proven true in science and socio- political concepts. To put down all contactee statements is absolute ignorance and disinformation. Something was happening with _some_ of those people that has since influenced many other people. 7. The September 1961 experience of Betty and Barney Hill and its subsequent investigation and publication. This started the whole abduction trend, where people actually began experiencing "contacts" that had been suppressed. 8. The mid-1960s Exeter, New Hampshire sightings vividly portrayed mass sightings that generally go unrecorded. The skillful pen of John G. Fuller changed profoundly the public psychology in reference to UFOs. 9. The Eduard "Billy" Meier alleged contact and hundreds of clear photographs and film footage. Meier's story coordinates with Adamski and other believable contact tales world-wide. Then why do some contactees fail to gain widespread public notice? I have a theory on that, but I prefer you answer that question for yourself. 10. The Shuttle Discovery mission STS 48 videos of anomalous objects executing anomalous maneuvers. Either Earth governments are hiding alot or they are not the only players in near space. Again, a lot of people have seen these videos and have arrived at various interesting conclusions. Honorable mention: The Mars face and the Russian videos showing anomalous images shortly before losing contact with their Mars spacecraft. How much do these cause scientists to question? I'm not arguing for any kind of objective validity to various interprretations of these events, although I have my own beliefs. I am just suggesting that these are profoundly relevant events that have affected an important segment of the earth's population. These opinions are my own based only on my own understanding or lack of it, as a science historian and technical writer. I am communicating for no employer, contractor or user of my services. I am piggybacking on my wife's account and can be reached by same. Keep it sane and hopeful! Nick Summers SUMMERSE@GOODALL.UNCG.EDU ------------------------------ From: Legalize Adulthood! Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 11:34:41 -0600 Subject: UFO posts Skunk works goes through this cycle repeatedly: 1. single (or multi-part) message about UFOs is posted 2. 10,000 whiny reponses are posted as followups 3. no UFO posts for a while If you people who like to whine about UFO posts would just stop whining to the list (complaining to the original poster in private e-mail is another thing; the rest of us aren't bothered with your complaints), the amount of "off topic" posts would go down considerably, including this one. - -- http://www.xmission.com/~legalize Legalize Adulthood in Utah! legalize@xmission.com ------------------------------ From: Corey Lawson Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 12:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Revised F117 cockpit... ... BaDGE wrote: From: BaDge Date: Thu, 22 Jun 1995 12:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: AW&ST, June 12 / June 19 Did anyone see the recent Discover Channel broadcast about the F177A last week in which they mentioned that the current model is significantly different from the one flown in DS? They showed some nice cockpit views and mentioned that the display is now in full color. This show seemed to be fairly new, and had some enjoyable interviews with some of the pilots who flew the initial sorties, mentioning their dealing with the fatique and fear that accompanied flying all those missions during that relatively short time span. - ----- Popular Science or Popular Mechanics had an article relatively recently (like the last year or so) where one of their editors was the first print journalist to sit in one and write an article about it. Well, it ended up they put him in the cockpit workload simulator where they were trying out this stuff. Basically, the F117 seems like a pretty impressive system in that it is essentially software-configurable for new cockpit equipment and flight dynamics... Of course, this is all the Air Force would let him say about it... - ------------------------------+-------------------------------------------- Corey Lawson +never before you will ignore csl@booster.u.washington.edu +never again I will pretend - ------------------------------+-------------------------------------------- (Don't ask...) ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V5 #312 ********************************* To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@mail.orst.edu". 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