From: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V5 #375 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Saturday, 5 August 1995 Volume 05 : Number 375 In this issue: Re: Skunk Works Digest V5 #374 Re: B-2 Munitions Re: stray thoughts Re: Skunk Works Digest V5 #374 Re: Skunk Works Digest V5 #374 Re: B-2 Munitions See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dosgood@proxima.gsfc.nasa.gov (Dean Osgood) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 08:25:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Skunk Works Digest V5 #374 >Subject: Re: stray thoughts >+How about an electric translucent/transaparent Lifting Body LTA craft. >+Inherently Stealthy to Radar, IR, even Visual or Acoustic sensors, no >Speaking of which... I caught a clip from the CBS radio news that talked >briefly about a surveillance blimp hanger that had burned and took the >blimps with it. >Anybody have any other details? >Like... is the drug war escallating? Sounds like fodder for a Clancy novel. In the latest issue of Design News there is an insert mostly about remote control positioners, and as part of it there was a blurb about someone developing for "international" market a RPV with an 80,000' cealing, "long flight duration" and 300+ lb payload, etc........... I don't have it in front of me, and will get the details tonight when I go home. Back to work building spaceships Dean Osgood dosgood@proxima.gsfc.nasa.gov ------------------------------ From: neil@bedford.progress.COM (Neil Galarneau) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:00:14 EDT Subject: Re: B-2 Munitions > :NORTHROP GRUMMAN'S SECOND GPS TEST NOT A COMPLETE SUCCESS > > Northrop Grumman's second test of a new precision-guided > munition for its B-2 Stealth bomber was less than fully successful, > with the weapon failing to hook up with a Global Positioning System > (GPS) satellite. [snip] So, it looks like everybody who is anybody is going to be wanting local GPS jammers. How hard is that? I can see the whole ECM-ECCM spiral now. Barrage GPS jamming, Deceptive GPS jamming, GPS receivers watching the change in the GPS signal for sudden jumps, etc. I would hope that the B-2 isn't going to rely on jammable weapons. Neil neil@progress.com ------------------------------ From: David Windle Date: Fri, 04 Aug 1995 16:09:48 Subject: Re: stray thoughts >+How about an electric translucent/transaparent Lifting Body LTA craft. >+Inherently Stealthy to Radar, IR, even Visual or Acoustic sensors, no >+power consumption for lift and relatively inexpensive.If it's Radar >+coverage you're looking for ..it could house one helluvah antenna. >+Laser/microwave power transmission (not so stealthy!) or a hybrid of fuel >+cells/solar panels could make for a very useful - and practical vehicle. Rick Pavek wrote: Rick Pavek wrote: >Gee... something like the DEA blimps? Gee Rick, you've really piqued my interest now. The DEA using translucent Lifting Body airships powered by electicity from fuel cells or m/w transmission ? Do tell more...I'm not familiar with any Lifting Body pressure ships either...seems I've got a lot to learn :) Best D ------------------------------ From: David Windle Date: Fri, 04 Aug 1995 16:34:16 Subject: Re: Skunk Works Digest V5 #374 Dean Osgood wrote: >In the latest issue of Design News there is an insert mostly about remote >control positioners, and as part of it there was a blurb about someone >developing for "international" market a RPV with an 80,000' cealing, "long >flight duration" and 300+ lb payload, etc........... >I don't have it in front of me, and will get the details tonight when I go home. Is this the New York based Skysat Communications Network's UAV ?. They're developing two versions - a conventionally powered type with "72-120 hour" endurance, the other is electrically powered with a duration of "six months"..power to be transmitted from ground based microwaves (this system has been developed by NASA's JPL.) Best D ------------------------------ From: kuryakin@arn.net (Rick Pavek) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 14:29:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Skunk Works Digest V5 #374 +Dean Osgood wrote: + +>In the latest issue of Design News there is an insert mostly about remote +>control positioners, and as part of it there was a blurb about someone +>developing for "international" market a RPV with an 80,000' cealing, "long +>flight duration" and 300+ lb payload, etc........... Gee... 300 lbs would be a lot of cocaine... if the wrong people were to buy one. Rick ------------------------------ From: wizard@fs1.houston.sccsi.com (John F. Regus) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 19:45:41 -0500 Subject: Re: B-2 Munitions Neil wrote: >So, it looks like everybody who is anybody is going to be wanting >local GPS jammers. How hard is that? > >I can see the whole ECM-ECCM spiral now. Barrage GPS jamming, >Deceptive GPS jamming, GPS receivers watching the change in the GPS >signal for sudden jumps, etc. > >I would hope that the B-2 isn't going to rely on jammable weapons. > I write: There are seperate military and commercial GPS systems. Basically they work the same, except only our military forces can receive the military system signals. Of course, you say, well what about commercial aviation. Basically, they go back to the navigation methods used prior to GPS. ************************************************************************* * STRATACOM WORLDNET * internet: wizard@sccsi.com | SYS/370/390 * internet: STRATACOM_WORLDNET@msn.com | Systems Software Engineering * voice: 713-960-0045 | Data and Tele-Communications * fax/data:713-960-0015 | * WUI: REGUSHOU | John F. 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