From: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V5 #397 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Saturday, 26 August 1995 Volume 05 : Number 397 In this issue: Re: Pine Bush Sightings Re: Pine Bush & Aurora Friday's Skunk-Surf... Re: Moon Missiles? SR-71 over France SR-71 over France See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Windle Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:03:46 Subject: Re: Pine Bush Sightings Michael wrote: >I'd appreciate knowing if anyone knows if our military has any plane >with this shape. Also, can anyone tell me what is the minimum speed >needed to keep a jet in the air? Is there any explanation for why the >craft was absolutely silent until after it passed over our head, at which >point the jet sound was heard. The a/c you describe sounds like a Lighter than Air craft. I know I keep plugging away at this area of aviation and the SW, but in his book, Ben Rich mentions that "At our own Skunk Works ...we are looking into dirigibles as the ultimate heavy lift cargo transporters....We could build dirigibles double-hulled for additional environmental safety and fly them high above violent weather systems." No need for unstealthy thrust vectoring to remamin in hover mode.What you would see is a very quiet, at times silent a/c with very little need for powerful engines, so the designers could lose a whole lot of power in attenuating the inlet and efflux sound levels. Result - a large, almost silent a/c with hovering and low speed abilities. Lockheed's SRA proposal of the 80s would fit the bill nicely. In the paper outlining the concept it does mention designing airships not in the classic cigar shape, but in a more aerodynamically efficent one, using lightweight composites. BTW just in case there's anyone who still hasn't read the Ben Rich and Leo Janos book "Skunk Works"..imagine you'll never know what the SR-71's Diplomatic Clearance Number was whilst flying over France on the way back from Beirut to Mildenhall:) Best D ------------------------------ From: Jay.Waller@analog.com Date: Fri, 25 Aug 95 12:30 EDT Subject: Re: Pine Bush & Aurora If anyone still hasn't checked out Adrian Mann's Aurora pics, do so now. They are very good. I hear "Where did you get _that_????" everytime I have one up on my screen here. They really put a lifelike edge to what I've heard discussed on the Aurora. The one showing the craft on the ground with it's landing lights causing "starbursts" on the lens is really something. Please check them out. I think they're worth a lot of discussion. Site is: http://www.primenet.com/~mikeq/aurora.html. Regards, Jay ------------------------------ From: BaDge Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Friday's Skunk-Surf... For those with Browsers, plain or graphic May I suggest: Kathryn & Andreas homepage sublink http://www.umcc.umich.edu/~schnars/aero.htm#new ...for a New series of way cool Aviation links, graphics of a skunky nature, and a link to Air and Space Magazine, as well as an interesting and humerous excerpt from the September Issue. Many thanks to K&A for their continued work on this succulent resource. ;-) You may also consider this a blatant plug to subscribe to/read Smithsonian A&S Magazine, if you don't already. (I'm not affiliated with them, I just like their work). For another, more current, link to A&S try: http://www.enews.com/magazines/airspace regards, BaDge ------------------------------ From: wizard@fs1.houston.sccsi.com (John F. Regus) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:27:32 -0500 Subject: Re: Moon Missiles? >Can moon launched missles be intercepted? Unless there are specific missle >defense systems, not bloody likely. How about the new generation Patriot or the Project "Arrow" product that was developed in joint cooperation with Israel? >" those who put those misslies on the moon will have anticipated most defenses and if >any of them would be effective they wouldn't have bothered to put those missles >there. The warheads will have a little bit of steering capabilitly - enough to >avoid interception. By this time don't you think directed particle beam weapons would have been developed? >Sorry. The most effective way to threaten a country with nuclear attack is to >smuggle the bombs into the country and hide them in the cities. Finding all of >them is impossible, they can be targeted very accurately, and the panic that >breaks out after the population becomes aware that there are the bombs hidden is >almost as effective as detonating them. Hence, the most effective delivery system today is a Federal Express van. (or UPS or DHL). ************************************************************************* * STRATACOM WORLDNET * internet: wizard@sccsi.com | SYS/370/390 * internet: STRATACOM_WORLDNET@msn.com | Systems Software Engineering * voice: 713-960-0045 | Data and Tele-Communications * fax/data:713-960-0015 | * WUI: REGUSHOU | John F. Regus, Consultant ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: czbb062 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 21:43:03 -0500 (CDT) Subject: SR-71 over France On Fri, 25 Aug 1995, David Windle wrote: BTW just in case there's anyone who still hasn't read the Ben Rich and Leo Janos book "Skunk Works"..imagine you'll never know what the SR-71's Diplomatic Clearance Number was whilst flying over France on the way back from Beirut to Mildenhall:) Couldn't be anything but soixante-neuf. Michael Eisenstadt (czbb062@access.texas.gov) ------------------------------ From: czbb062 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 21:57:54 -0500 (CDT) Subject: SR-71 over France On Fri, 25 Aug 1995, David Windle wrote: BTW just in case there's anyone who still hasn't read the Ben Rich and Leo Janos book "Skunk Works"..imagine you'll never know what the SR-71's Diplomatic Clearance Number was whilst flying over France on the way back from Beirut to Mildenhall:) Couldn't be anything but soixante-neuf. Michael Eisenstadt (czbb062@access.texas.gov) ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V5 #397 ********************************* To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@mail.orst.edu". 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