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Skunk Works Digest Thursday, 31 August 1995 Volume 05 : Number 405
In this issue:
Re: Request for help on SKUNK WORKS
[none]
F-16XL
Do YOU Remember Lockheed's Burbank Facilities? (fwd)
SR-71 to Bosnia
SR-71 seen at Minneapolis/St. Paul airport
Re: SR-71 seen at Minneapolis/St. Paul airport
Re: Skunk Works Digest V5 #404
Re: SR-71 seen at Minneapolis/St. Paul airport
Re: Request for help on SKUNK WORKS
Re: SR-71 to Bosnia
Request for SR-71/Paul Crickmore Info
Re: Request for SR-71/Paul Crickmore Info
Blackbird on TV
Air Force Museum, Dayton
SR-71 Recall Recap
Eject! Eject! Eject!
Re: SR-71 seen at Minneapolis/St. Paul airport
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From: megazone@world.std.com (MegaZone)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 04:00:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Request for help on SKUNK WORKS
Once upon a time Wei-Jen Su shaped the electrons to say...
>and co-pilot/bomber), and the F-16XL only one. Therefore, they figure out
>that a two crew aircraft will be less work load to the crews...
There is a 2 seat XL - one of each was built.
The 15E could lift more and had two engines - important for ground attack
where ground fire is a problem.
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From: Kathryn & Andreas Gehrs-Pahl
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 05:01:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [none]
Stefan 'Stetson' Skoglund wrote:
>The countries in NATO were netherlands, belgium, norway and denmark.
>Fokker in netherlands did the assembly if i'm not mistaken.
The F-20 did not compete with the F-16, Mirage F1 and Viggen for the NATO
replacement aircraft of the F-104G Starfighter. The F-16 was selected
around 1975, and the first aircraft were build in Belgium by SABCA/SONACA
and in the Netherlands by Fokker-VFW already in 1978.
The four original NATO countries ordered:
Country Ordered Delivered Number Types
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Belgium 06/07/1975 01/29/1979 96/20 F-16A/B
later 40/4 F-16A/B
Netherlands 06/07/1975 06/1979 80/20/2 F-16A/B/B(R)
later 78/20/14 F-16A/A(R)/B
Norway 06/07/1975 01/15/1980 60/12 F-16A/B
later 4/2 F-16A/B
Denmark 06/07/1975 01/18/1980 46/12 F-16A/B
later 18/6 F-16A/B
plus 3 F-16A (ex USAF)
The F-20 also did not compete for the other early F-16 export deals:
Iran 10/27/1976 --- 128/32 F-16A/B
Israel 08/1978 07/1980 67/8 F-16A/B
10/1987 51/24 F-16C/D
later 30/30 F-16C/D
plus 1995 50 F-16A/B (ex USAF)
Egypt 06/1980 03/1982 34/8 F-16A/B
10/11/1982 34/6 F-16C/D
10/1987 35/12 F-16C/D
06/1990 30/30 F-16C/D
Pakistan 12/1981 01/1983 28/12 F-16A/B
09/1989 --- 54/17 F-16A/B
Venezuela 05/1982 09/1983 18/6 F-16A/B
South Korea 12/1981 03/1986 36 F-16C/D
The F-20, which first flew on 08/30/1982 -- exactly 13 years ago -- was
instead aimed at countries already operating F-5A/B and F-5E/F, mainly
in the Pacific Rim, like South Korea, and Taiwan, and other smaller
countries like Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia, etc. most of
which finally bought the F-16. Bahrain, who ordered 4 F-20s, converted
this order later to F-5E, and later also bought F-16s.
Northrop (through McDonald Douglas) had some success by winning a contract
from South Korea for 120 F/A-18s, but this contract finally was canceled,
and given instead to the cheaper F-16C/D, while Taiwan produced its AIDC
Ching-Kuo IDF (Indigenous Defense Fighter) with help from Northrop, General
Electric, and others.
Another market for the F-20 would have been (NATO) countries like Portugal,
Turkey and Greece, which also procured the F-16 later, while Spain, Canada,
and Switzerland choose the F/A-18.
Only four F-5G/F-20s were built:
* USAF serial '82-0062'; first flight 08/30/1982 from Edwards AFB with
Northrop test pilot Russ Scott; first painted red and white; made its
63rd flight and was redesignated F-20A in 11/1982; later painted grey;
flew with the registration 'N4416T'; crashed 10/10/1984 at Suwon AB,
South Korea; Northrop's chief test pilot Darrell Cornell was killed,
performing aerobatics for the sales demonstration;
* USAF serial '82-0063'; roll out on 07/25/1983; first flight on 08/26/1983;
painted grey; flew with the registration 'N3986B'; crashed at CAFB Goose
Bay, Labrador, in 03/1985; Northrop test pilot Dave Barnes was killed,
performing aerobatics for sales demonstration / airshow;
* USAF serial '82-0064'; first flight 05/1984; painted grey; flew with the
registration 'N44761'; the sole surviving airframe is displayed in the
California Museum of Science and Industry in Los Angeles, CA;
* USAF serial '82-0065'; scrapped while less than 50% completed; first
flight was planned for early 1987;
- -- Andreas
- --- ---
Andreas & Kathryn Gehrs-Pahl E-Mail: schnars@ais.org
313 West Court St. #305 or: gpahl@raptor.csc.flint.umich.edu
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- --- ---
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From: Kathryn & Andreas Gehrs-Pahl
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 05:03:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: F-16XL
Stefan 'Stetson' Skoglund wrote:
>You mean the F-16 XL.
>The same type of bomb carriage as on the F-15E but on the wings instead
>ie conformal bomb-carriage under the wing and pretty near the leading
>edge too.
>The prototype is stored in Fort Worth i think.
The F-16XL prototypes were developed in cooperation with NASA, and were
built to compete with the F-15E Strike Eagle.
The first prototype (sometimes referred to as F-16XL-1, 'Ship 1', or F-16E)
is a single-seat aircraft, and was modified from the 5th FSD (Full Scale
Development) F-16A (aka YF-16A), USAF serial '75-0749'. It is powered by
a Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-100 turbo fan.
The second prototype (sometimes referred to as F-16XL-2, 'Ship 12, or F-16F)
is a two-seat aircraft, and was modified from the (single-seat) 3rd FSD (Full
Scale Development) F-16A (aka YF-16A), USAF serial '75-0747'. It is powered
by a General Electric F110-GE-129 turbofan.
After it was stored for a while at General Dynamics' Fort Worth, TX, plant,
'Ship 1' was transferred to NASA on 05/02/1988, and arrived at NASA's DFRF
(Dryden Flight Research Center), Edwards AFB, CA, on 04/10/1989, where it
received its new NASA number '849'. It was initially used for SLFC
(Supersonic Laminar Flow Control) research, and later at NASA's LaRC (Langley
Research Center), Hampton, VA, for the CAWAP (Cranked-Arrow Wing Aerodynamics
Project) and for Sonic Boom research in connection with NASA's SR-71s.
'Ship 2' was also given to NASA and arrived at Edwards on 1990/91, where
it received its NASA number '846' (after temporarily using '848'). It was
also used at Edwards for Supersonic Laminar Flow Control research and, on
11/28/1994, 'Ship 1' returned to Dryden for new SLFC flights, aimed at
future HSCT (Hyper-Sonic Commercial Transport) aircraft.
Maybe Mary Shafer has some more up-to-date information?
- -- Andreas
- --- ---
Andreas & Kathryn Gehrs-Pahl E-Mail: schnars@ais.org
313 West Court St. #305 or: gpahl@raptor.csc.flint.umich.edu
Flint, MI 48502-1239
Tel: (810) 238-8469 WWW URL: http://www.umcc.umich.edu/~schnars/
- --- ---
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From: Kathryn & Andreas Gehrs-Pahl
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 05:07:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Do YOU Remember Lockheed's Burbank Facilities? (fwd)
The following message was posted at sci.aeronautics.airliners, and I
thought some Skunk Works reader might be familiar with or interested in
this topic.
On Thu, 31 Aug 95 posted:
>DO YOU REMEMBER.........
>Air Force Plant#14, the Lockheed Plants, or the Lockheed Air Terminal
>located in Burbank, CA?
>The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is interested in these facilities and is
>conducting research into their history from the 1920s to the present.
>QuantaLex has been contracted to conduct this research and is currently
>speaking to individuals with knowledge of these facilities or the
>companies or industries which operated them.
>If you have any information, we would like to to talk to you!!!!
>Please call QuantaLex, Inc. at: 1-800-873-7411 (Toll Free)
>(8 am - 5 pm MDT, Monday - Friday)
>Or please e-mail QuantaLex, Inc. at:
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>QuantaLex, Inc.
>300 Union Boulevard, Suite 600
- -- Andreas
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313 West Court St. #305 or: gpahl@raptor.csc.flint.umich.edu
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- --- ---
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From: Jay.Waller@analog.com
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 95 07:25 EDT
Subject: SR-71 to Bosnia
ABC reported this morning that the SR-71s may be used in recon over Bosnia.
Anyone heard anything else on this ?
------------------------------
From: Rick.Lafford@cldx.com, Johnson & Johnson Clinical Diagnostics
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 09:35:18 -0400
Subject: SR-71 seen at Minneapolis/St. Paul airport
I was passing thru Minneapolis/St. Paul airport on Tuesday afternoon. When I
looked across from the terminal building to the Air Guard facility, I was
somewhat stunned to see the unmistakable shape of an SR-71 pointing at me
from behind a C-130. Does anyone know if this was a static display piece or
did I actually see an SR on the way somewhere?
Rick
Rick Lafford
Project Engineer
Johnson & Johnson Clinical Diagnostics
lafford@cnp.cldx.com
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From: dadams@netcom.com (Dean Adams)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 06:57:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: SR-71 seen at Minneapolis/St. Paul airport
> I was passing thru Minneapolis/St. Paul airport on Tuesday afternoon. When I
> looked across from the terminal building to the Air Guard facility, I was
> somewhat stunned to see the unmistakable shape of an SR-71 pointing at me
> from behind a C-130. Does anyone know if this was a static display piece or
> did I actually see an SR on the way somewhere?
Sounds like you saw the Minnesota ANG's A-12, #60-6931.
------------------------------
From: "Michael William Freeman"
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 10:21:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Skunk Works Digest V5 #404
> From: Wei-Jen Su
> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 01:53:16 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: Request for help on SKUNK WORKS
>
> >
> > You mean the F-16 XL.
> > The same type of bomb carriage as on the F-15E but on the wings instead
> > ie conformal bomb-carriage under the wing and pretty near the leading
> > edge too.
>
> One of the reason that USAF selected the F-15E instead of the
> F-16XL for a bomber mission is because the F-15E can fit two crew (pilot
> and co-pilot/bomber), and the F-16XL only one. Therefore, they figure out
> that a two crew aircraft will be less work load to the crews...
>
> Live Long and Prosper
>
> Su Wei-Jen
> wsu02@barney.poly.edu
That's not true. There is a two-seat F-16XL. The reason that the F-15E was
chosen for a couple of reasons.
1) Two Engines. Since it is a Strike Aircraft, and would encounter heavy ground
fire, a plane with 2 engines has a better chance of returning to base if one is
hit by fire. Two engines also allows a heavier payload to be transported with
greater speed.
2) Low level speed. A larger aircraft will ride better at low altitude that a
small one.
The twin-engines is the main thing. That is the same reason that all new Navy
planes have 2 engines.
------------------------------
From: Kathryn & Andreas Gehrs-Pahl
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 10:37:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: SR-71 seen at Minneapolis/St. Paul airport
Rick Lafford wrote:
>I was passing thru Minneapolis/St. Paul airport on Tuesday afternoon. When I
>looked across from the terminal building to the Air Guard facility, I was
>somewhat stunned to see the unmistakable shape of an SR-71 pointing at me
>from behind a C-130. Does anyone know if this was a static display piece or
>did I actually see an SR on the way somewhere?
The aircraft you saw was probably the 8th A-12, Article 128, USAF serial
'60-6931', which is displayed at the Minnesota Air National Guard Museum,
St. Paul, MN, since 10/27/1991.
- -- Andreas
- --- ---
Andreas & Kathryn Gehrs-Pahl E-Mail: schnars@ais.org
313 West Court St. #305 or: gpahl@raptor.csc.flint.umich.edu
Flint, MI 48502-1239
Tel: (810) 238-8469 WWW URL: http://www.umcc.umich.edu/~schnars/
- --- ---
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From: Mary Shafer
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:18:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Request for help on SKUNK WORKS
This can't be right--there's a two-seat F-16XL about 100 yards from me
right now.
Mary
Mary Shafer DoD #0362 KotFR shafer@ursa-major.spdcc.com
URL http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/People/Shafer/mary.html
Some days it don't come easy/And some days it don't come hard
Some days it don't come at all/And these are the days that never end....
On Thu, 31 Aug 1995, Wei-Jen Su wrote:
> >
> > You mean the F-16 XL.
> > The same type of bomb carriage as on the F-15E but on the wings instead
> > ie conformal bomb-carriage under the wing and pretty near the leading
> > edge too.
>
> One of the reason that USAF selected the F-15E instead of the
> F-16XL for a bomber mission is because the F-15E can fit two crew (pilot
> and co-pilot/bomber), and the F-16XL only one. Therefore, they figure out
> that a two crew aircraft will be less work load to the crews...
>
> Live Long and Prosper
>
> Su Wei-Jen
> wsu02@barney.poly.edu
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From: Mary Shafer
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:22:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: SR-71 to Bosnia
Not likely to happen soon--they don't have any checked out crews.
Regards,
Mary
Mary Shafer DoD #0362 KotFR shafer@ursa-major.spdcc.com
URL http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/People/Shafer/mary.html
Some days it don't come easy/And some days it don't come hard
Some days it don't come at all/And these are the days that never end....
On Thu, 31 Aug 1995 Jay.Waller@analog.com wrote:
> ABC reported this morning that the SR-71s may be used in recon over Bosnia.
> Anyone heard anything else on this ?
------------------------------
From: "William F. Wurzbach"
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:00:01 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Request for SR-71/Paul Crickmore Info
I apologize if this has been discussed previously, but the Majordomo
server doesn't seem to support a database search, so I couldn't be sure.
I was at the Experimental Aircraft Association Fly-in this year and purchased
a book by Paul F. Crickmore entitled "SR-71: The Secret Missions Exposed".
I thoroughly enjoyed the detail and wealth of information he had on the
subject and my curiosity was piqued by passing references to his earlier
books. The titles weren't given, but one was described as 'the definitive
work on the SR-71' according to Lockheed personnel, and the other was some
type of pictorial publication.
I'm interested in determining the titles of these two previous
publications, but can't seem to locate them in the current "Books in Print"
at the library -- just a reference to the 'Secret Missions' one. I belive
one might be called "Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird" (1986), but can't be sure.
Would anyone happen to know the titles or ISBN numbers of these two books
and/or where they might be found or purchased ? I suppose I can just wait
until next year's EAA and look harder, but I'm not sure I can wait that
long ;-). Also, information on any other books about the SR-71 that are
felt to be of high quality would be welcomed. Any help someone can provide
will be much appreciated.
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
William Wurzbach, DBA/Data Security Fax : (414) 424 - 7317
c/o Information Systems - D305 Phone : (414) 424 - 3018
University of Wisconsin - Oshkosh Bitnet : WURZBACH@OSHKOSHW
800 Algoma Blvd. Internet : WURZBACH@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
Oshkosh, Wisconsin 54901-8624
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From: Kathryn & Andreas Gehrs-Pahl
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:41:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Request for SR-71/Paul Crickmore Info
William,
The two books you are looking for, are:
Format: Number: "Nu" - Sequential Number
- ------- Title: "Ti" - Title of the book
Subtitle: "Su" - Subtitles, if any
Volume: "Vo" - Volume Number / Year, if multi-volume
Author: "Au" - Author and Co-Authors
Editor: "Ed" - Editors, if any (instead of Authors)
Publisher: "Pu" - Publisher (and location)
Year: "Yr" - Year of publication
Series: "Se" - Series name and number, if any
ISBN: "Is" - ISBN number, if any
Cost: "Co" - Price (in US$ or English Pound (L)), if available
Remarks: "Re" - Availability, my personal opinion, etc.
Nu - B201
Ti - Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird
Au - Paul F. Crickmore
Pu - Osprey Publishing Ltd., London, England
Pu - Motorbooks International, Osceola, WI
Yr - 1986, 1987
Is - 0-85045-653-3
Re - Very good! (but out of print)
Nu - B205
Ti - SR-71 Blackbird
Su - Lockheed's Mach 3 Hot Shot
Au - Paul F. Crickmore
Pu - Osprey Publishing Ltd., London, England
Yr - 1987
Is - 0-85045-794-7
Re - Many high quality photos
Those entries are from a bigger booklist, which you can find at my
Aviation home page at:
http://www.umcc.umich.edu/~schnars/texte/books.htm
- -- Andreas
- --- ---
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313 West Court St. #305 or: gpahl@raptor.csc.flint.umich.edu
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Tel: (810) 238-8469 WWW URL: http://www.umcc.umich.edu/~schnars/
- --- ---
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From: "Bill Corea"
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 09:42:47 -0600
Subject: Blackbird on TV
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> Sunday, the Discovery channel will air a documentary on the SR-71. It
> is at 10:00 Mountain, 9:00 Pacific (Eastern and Central unknown,
> but probably 10:00 EDT, 9:00 CDT.)
> Check local listings for details.
The program is called "SR-71 Blackbird-The Secret Vigil". It airs as part
of the "Discovery Sunday" series. Sunday, Sept.3 at 9 ET and PT, 8 CT, 10 MT.
Also, "Wings" is showing "Eyes in the Sky" on Friday, 9/1 at 6 pm (ET and
PT, adjust for Central and Mountain).
Bill
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This is me speaking. If my company had an opinion
on this subject, it might be different.
Bill Corea Chevron Overseas Petroleum Inc
wcco@chevron.com San Ramon, California
- --part_AC6B34970001996000000003--
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From: dougt@u011.oh.vp.com (Doug Tiffany)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 95 12:45:27 EDT
Subject: Air Force Museum, Dayton
I was surfing the Web and found the United States Air Force Museum
page.
http://www.brooklyn.cuny.edu/rec/air/museums/oh/usafm.html
You can call up the specs on (what must be) evety aircraft they have
there.
- --
A hundred years from now, it will not matter
what kind of house I live in, how much is in
my bank account, or what kind of car I drive,
but the world may be a different place because
I was important in the life of a child.
Douglas J. Tiffany dougt@u011.oh.vp.com
Varco-Pruden Buildings Van Wert, Ohio
------------------------------
From: "Terry Colvin"
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 95 10:22:07 EST
Subject: SR-71 Recall Recap
:SPY PLANE BACK FROM RETIREMENT
SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- The nation's premier spy plane, the
SR-71 Blackbird, has been brought out of retirement after six years
because it flies so fast and high it can elude missiles over hotspots
such as Bosnia.
Justin Murphy, a spokesman for Lockheed, the plane's manufacturer,
said Wednesday that Air Force crews training to fly the SR-71 had
looked at potential routes over Bosnia.
The Air Force refused to say whether SR-71s will be used in
Bosnia.
But Capt. Nori LaRue of the 9th Reconnaissance Wing at Beale Air
Force Base said military strategists believe the SR-71 -- which is
more than 30 years old -- "would have higher survivability than other
planes in high-threat areas" where there are surface-to-air missiles.
U-2 spy planes are much slower and fly at lower altitudes, making
them more vulnerable to missile attacks, LaRue said. Satellites are
expensive, hard to reposition and can be fooled because they pass
overhead at regular intervals.
SR-71s were retired in 1989, even though they were the fastest,
highest-flying planes in the world, largely because of the high cost
of operating them.
U-2s have been in Britain since April supporting the NATO
operation to exclude military aircraft from Bosnian skies.
The threat of missiles in Bosnia was demonstrated in June when Air
Force Capt. Scott O'Grady's F-16 fighter was shot down over
Serb-controlled northern Bosnia. The flier was rescued six days
later.
A French Mirage 2000C fighter was shot from Bosnian skies
Wednesday.
Earlier this year, Congress directed the Air Force to prepare two
SR-71s for missions by Friday. A third SR-71 will be used as a
trainer.
But it does not appear the Air Force will make the deadline,
because it is behind schedule in training pilots to fly the SR-71.
Many former crew members retired or took other assignments when the
planes were mothballed.
One two-person crew qualified for regular missions Tuesday, Murphy
said. The Air Force said two other crews should be ready by the end
of September.
Congress authorized $72 million to reactivate and refurbish the
planes.
The planes also have been updated so they can transmit data while
still in flight.
"In the Cold War era, we didn't feel we needed to expend that kind
of money when the U-2 would do the job. Now we're in a different
environment," LaRue said.
"We used to have two superpowers and everybody else was relatively
quiet. Now we have one superpower and everybody else trying to grab a
piece of the pie and establish their ground and their rights."
During the Gulf War, U.S. military commanders complained they
missed the SR-71's capabilities, said Murphy, Lockheed's SR-71
program manager.
The SR-71, which can fly to the edge of space and is faster than a
speeding bullet, is now expected to serve for up to another decade.
The plane can cruise at an altitude of more than 85,000 feet at
over three times the speed of sound. That's roughly 33 miles a minute
- -- fast enough to streak from San Francisco to New York in 1 hour, 45
minutes.
Murphy said the jet could capture images of all of Bosnia is just
20 minutes.
------------------------------
From: Charles_E._Smith.wbst200@xerox.com
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 10:25:42 PDT
Subject: Eject! Eject! Eject!
Spent a little time surfing, let Lycos find "starfighter" for me.
Since its new to me I pass this along to anyone else who wants it.
Try
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/PhotoServer/F-104/index.html
My FAVORITE pic of all time is at
http://wwwtera.iss.infn.it/st/aircraft.html
Its a Mig 29 in flames. Makes a great Windows background!
How about we compile a list of our favorite skunky web sites! Just add yours and
repost.
Chuck Smith
"Aerospace Engineer to the Stars"
------------------------------
From: Mike Beede
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:49:38 -0500
Subject: Re: SR-71 seen at Minneapolis/St. Paul airport
> I was passing thru Minneapolis/St. Paul airport on Tuesday afternoon. When I
> looked across from the terminal building to the Air Guard facility, I was
> somewhat stunned to see the unmistakable shape of an SR-71 pointing at me
> from behind a C-130. Does anyone know if this was a static display piece or
> did I actually see an SR on the way somewhere?
It is a static display. It is actually an A-12. You can see it and
some other planes at the Air Guard Museum for a truly nominal fee.
Mike
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