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Skunk Works Digest        Friday, 10 November 1995      Volume 05 : Number 506

In this issue:

	Re: Which is it ?
	what is natural color of titanium?
	SR-71 Paint
	Re: UFO Buffs Protest Bosnian Peace Talks
	Boscombe Down mystery aircraft
	Re: Zenith Books "SR-71 Pilots Manual, Declassified"
	Re: what is natural color of titanium?
	Re: UFO Buffs Protest Bosnian Peace Talks

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From: ahanley@usace.mil
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:02:18 ÿÿÿ
Subject: Re: Which is it ?

Hmmm.  M-21/M-12.  I wonder if LBJ had anything to do with this...

(assuming the anecdotal tales are true).


                                      Art Hanley

                        If you asked my employers whether they had
                        anything to do with the above, if it represented
                        their views or if they even knew about it,
                        they'd say, "No", and they'd be telling the
                        truth.

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From: czbb062 <czbb062@access.texas.gov>
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:13:23 -0600 (CST)
Subject: what is natural color of titanium?

Reading about mistaking titanium for aluminum,
I remembered handling a Nikon F3HPt which is
a camera body made of titanium.  It had a pinkish
color cast.  Was that Nikon's doing (some kind of
patina) or that titanium's natural color?

Of course, if I owned this camera body, I'd 
paint it black.

Michael Eisenstadt (czbb062@access.texas.gov)



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From: Mike Freeman <freema22@pilot.msu.edu>
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:49:15 -0500
Subject: SR-71 Paint

I have seen many pictures of SR-71s with blackboard chalk artwork on the 
tails. Why spend so much money on special paint for the insignias if chalk 
works? Just make drawing the insignias on the plane part of the preflight 
set-up.

BTW, would an SR-71 really need any marking to identify what country it 
came from? Who else but us would fly such a sinister and exotic looking 
plane?

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From: Daniel Thomson <thunder@rain.org>
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:38:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: UFO Buffs Protest Bosnian Peace Talks

When the hell is Terry going to get the idea that this kind of
garbage doesn't belong here?

> 
> 
> Forwarded forward from the FocusUFO list-TWC-:
> 
> Author:  Forum@focusufo.net at smtp-fhu 
> Date:    8/11/1995 2:06 PM
> 
> >Source: alt.alien.visitors
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  <-- This is where this crap belongs.

> >From: an192826@anon.penet.fi (Sue I. Generis) 
> >Date: Wed,  8 Nov 1995 01:48:37 UTC
> 
> 
> UFO BUFFS PROTEST BOSNIAN PEACE TALKS
> 


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From: "Terry Colvin" <colvint@fhu.disa.mil>
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 95 16:35:21 EST
Subject: Boscombe Down mystery aircraft

On Wed, 08 Nov 95 Terry Colvin forwarded:
> ...What is also of interest is that Boscombe Down airfield (Britain's
> Edwards) is located in the same area. This is where a mystery aircraft
> crashed last year. Rumour has it that it was a stealth replacement for
> the F-111 on test with the RAF...

I had it from a BUFORA researcher that the mystery aircraft was a 
common-or-garden F-117A.  The reason it was covered in a tarp was that its 
radar-absorbent paint, when hot, (for example, due to friction when the a/c 
has slid down the runway following a crash landing), gives off toxic fumes.

Rob Bull


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From: mangan@Kodak.COM (Paul Mangan)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:46:37 EST
Subject: Re: Zenith Books "SR-71 Pilots Manual, Declassified"

It seems to me that it was someone on the list that got conned
out of it only to find out that it was being copied and sold. 
Can't remember the whole story but I know I'm close.
and yes it is for real!
Paul
mangan@kodak.com

> 
> I recently got a catalog from Zenith Books that invites me to
> purchase a book titled as above.  Has anybody on this list
> seen the book personally?  Is it "legitimate" (for whatever
> definition of legitimate you prefer)?  The blurb is as follows:
> 
>                SR-71 PILOT'S MANUAL
> 
>       Here it is - Recently Declassified.  The official
>     training and operating manual for the SR-71 Blackbird
>     spyplane.  This manual reveals every secret of its
>     amazing performance & includes everything you need to
>     know to fly it.  Over 1,000 pages!  Sections include
>     a description of the aircraft, normal & emergency
>     procedures, navigation & sensor equipment, operating
>     limitations, flight characteriztics, & all-weather
>     operation.  Appendices on hard-to-find performance
>     data.  Softbound, 8.5 x 11", 1,024 pgs, 350 diagrams.
>     Stock Number 117443AP ................... $99.95
> 
> They want me to dial 1-800-826-6600 and authorize a credit card
> expenditure of ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS.  So, I'm wondering,
> izzit for real?
> 
> Thanks,
>   Mark Johnson
> 

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From: Daga1@aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 23:07:46 -0500
Subject: Re: what is natural color of titanium?

Ok, I've lurked long enough, here goes:

Depending a little on the alloy, titanium is a dark gray silver metal.  By
comparison to more common metals, probably appears closest to stainless
steel.  Aluminum is a softer lighter silver.  The pink was probably an
oxidation coating, I'm guessing.  I show it to my students in construction
technology courses;  I pass around two chunks -- one steel (36,000 psi) and
another titanium (150,000 psi? -- I'm not certain of the alloy) -- the
titanium weighs about half as much.  Most common use in construction today,
is, sadly, paint (TiO2 is pure white, replaced lead).

Andy




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From: dadams@netcom.com (Dean Adams)
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 21:26:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: UFO Buffs Protest Bosnian Peace Talks

> 
> Forwarded forward from the FocusUFO list-TWC-:

WHY??

 > Richard Hoagland heads Mars Mission

Well, that explains the source of this lunacy...

 > Joe Nickell, senior researcher for the Buffalo-headquartered Skeptical 
 > Inquirer magazine, would only say of Hoagland: "A mind is a terrible 
 > thing to waste... 

And Hoagland has been "wasted" for quite some time now. :)


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