From: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V5 #506 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Friday, 10 November 1995 Volume 05 : Number 506 In this issue: Re: Which is it ? what is natural color of titanium? SR-71 Paint Re: UFO Buffs Protest Bosnian Peace Talks Boscombe Down mystery aircraft Re: Zenith Books "SR-71 Pilots Manual, Declassified" Re: what is natural color of titanium? Re: UFO Buffs Protest Bosnian Peace Talks See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ahanley@usace.mil Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:02:18 ÿÿÿ Subject: Re: Which is it ? Hmmm. M-21/M-12. I wonder if LBJ had anything to do with this... (assuming the anecdotal tales are true). Art Hanley If you asked my employers whether they had anything to do with the above, if it represented their views or if they even knew about it, they'd say, "No", and they'd be telling the truth. ------------------------------ From: czbb062 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:13:23 -0600 (CST) Subject: what is natural color of titanium? Reading about mistaking titanium for aluminum, I remembered handling a Nikon F3HPt which is a camera body made of titanium. It had a pinkish color cast. Was that Nikon's doing (some kind of patina) or that titanium's natural color? Of course, if I owned this camera body, I'd paint it black. Michael Eisenstadt (czbb062@access.texas.gov) ------------------------------ From: Mike Freeman Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:49:15 -0500 Subject: SR-71 Paint I have seen many pictures of SR-71s with blackboard chalk artwork on the tails. Why spend so much money on special paint for the insignias if chalk works? Just make drawing the insignias on the plane part of the preflight set-up. BTW, would an SR-71 really need any marking to identify what country it came from? Who else but us would fly such a sinister and exotic looking plane? begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(AH4`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````$``0`!!) &`' !```!````# ````,``# #````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```&<`````````@2L?I+ZC$!F=;@#=`0]4`@````!S:W5N:RUW;W)K``$P`0```"<````G2NN@$>`' ``0````P```!34BTW,2!086EN= `"`7$``0```!8` M```!NJ[DU3EE/Z*-&JP1S[)"1$535 `````#``80S7W,C@,`!Q V`0``'@`( M$ $```!E````24A!5D53145.34%.65!)0U154D533T934BTW,5-7251(0DQ! M0TM"3T%21$-(04Q+05)45T]22T].5$A%5$%)3%-72%E34$5.1%-/355#2$U/ M3D593TY34$5#24%,4$%)3E1&3P`````"`0D0`0```-P!``#8`0``G (``$Q: M1G6W3^:;_P`*`0\"%0*H!>L"@P!0`O()`@!C: K `#T``0````$`````````U]$` ` end ------------------------------ From: Daniel Thomson Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:38:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: UFO Buffs Protest Bosnian Peace Talks When the hell is Terry going to get the idea that this kind of garbage doesn't belong here? > > > Forwarded forward from the FocusUFO list-TWC-: > > Author: Forum@focusufo.net at smtp-fhu > Date: 8/11/1995 2:06 PM > > >Source: alt.alien.visitors ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <-- This is where this crap belongs. > >From: an192826@anon.penet.fi (Sue I. Generis) > >Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 01:48:37 UTC > > > UFO BUFFS PROTEST BOSNIAN PEACE TALKS > ------------------------------ From: "Terry Colvin" Date: Thu, 09 Nov 95 16:35:21 EST Subject: Boscombe Down mystery aircraft On Wed, 08 Nov 95 Terry Colvin forwarded: > ...What is also of interest is that Boscombe Down airfield (Britain's > Edwards) is located in the same area. This is where a mystery aircraft > crashed last year. Rumour has it that it was a stealth replacement for > the F-111 on test with the RAF... I had it from a BUFORA researcher that the mystery aircraft was a common-or-garden F-117A. The reason it was covered in a tarp was that its radar-absorbent paint, when hot, (for example, due to friction when the a/c has slid down the runway following a crash landing), gives off toxic fumes. Rob Bull ------------------------------ From: mangan@Kodak.COM (Paul Mangan) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:46:37 EST Subject: Re: Zenith Books "SR-71 Pilots Manual, Declassified" It seems to me that it was someone on the list that got conned out of it only to find out that it was being copied and sold. Can't remember the whole story but I know I'm close. and yes it is for real! Paul mangan@kodak.com > > I recently got a catalog from Zenith Books that invites me to > purchase a book titled as above. Has anybody on this list > seen the book personally? Is it "legitimate" (for whatever > definition of legitimate you prefer)? The blurb is as follows: > > SR-71 PILOT'S MANUAL > > Here it is - Recently Declassified. The official > training and operating manual for the SR-71 Blackbird > spyplane. This manual reveals every secret of its > amazing performance & includes everything you need to > know to fly it. Over 1,000 pages! Sections include > a description of the aircraft, normal & emergency > procedures, navigation & sensor equipment, operating > limitations, flight characteriztics, & all-weather > operation. Appendices on hard-to-find performance > data. Softbound, 8.5 x 11", 1,024 pgs, 350 diagrams. > Stock Number 117443AP ................... $99.95 > > They want me to dial 1-800-826-6600 and authorize a credit card > expenditure of ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS. So, I'm wondering, > izzit for real? > > Thanks, > Mark Johnson > ------------------------------ From: Daga1@aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 23:07:46 -0500 Subject: Re: what is natural color of titanium? Ok, I've lurked long enough, here goes: Depending a little on the alloy, titanium is a dark gray silver metal. By comparison to more common metals, probably appears closest to stainless steel. Aluminum is a softer lighter silver. The pink was probably an oxidation coating, I'm guessing. I show it to my students in construction technology courses; I pass around two chunks -- one steel (36,000 psi) and another titanium (150,000 psi? -- I'm not certain of the alloy) -- the titanium weighs about half as much. Most common use in construction today, is, sadly, paint (TiO2 is pure white, replaced lead). Andy ------------------------------ From: dadams@netcom.com (Dean Adams) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 21:26:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: UFO Buffs Protest Bosnian Peace Talks > > Forwarded forward from the FocusUFO list-TWC-: WHY?? > Richard Hoagland heads Mars Mission Well, that explains the source of this lunacy... > Joe Nickell, senior researcher for the Buffalo-headquartered Skeptical > Inquirer magazine, would only say of Hoagland: "A mind is a terrible > thing to waste... And Hoagland has been "wasted" for quite some time now. :) ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V5 #506 ********************************* To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@mail.orst.edu". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-skunk-works": subscribe skunk-works-digest local-skunk-works@your.domain.net To unsubscribe, send mail to the same address, with the command: unsubscribe skunk-works-digest in the body. 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