From: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V5 #510 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@mail.orst.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Tuesday, 14 November 1995 Volume 05 : Number 510 In this issue: Helendale pictures online Re: SR-71 Paint SR-71 before Mach 1 See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRADER@cup.portal.com Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 01:43:42 PST Subject: Helendale pictures online In case anyone interested in sensitive facilities wants to see them, I've added a couple of pictures taken a week ago with a digital camera of Lockheed's Helendale facility (in California's Mojave Desert) to my Web page on the subject. Try URL http://www.portal.com/~trader/helendale.html You should have at least 256 colors on your video display for these pictures (they were optimized for video cards with 16 bits of color resolution.) Also, they don't display properly with America Online's Web browser. (Netscape, Mosaic, MacWeb, etc. all work fine). AOL's response was to say there are bugs in their browser, and they wanted to know if I wanted to beta test a new version... Also, there are some stray pictures of TRW's Capistrano Test Site, that I haven't added to a Web page yet, located on FTP site ftp.shell.portal.com in the /pub/trader/tmp directory. Paul McGinnis / TRADER@cup.portal.com / PaulMcG@aol.com http://www.portal.com/~trader/secrecy.html ------------------------------ From: ConsLaw@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:22:22 -0500 Subject: Re: SR-71 Paint My military law background is based solely on one three hour seminar, but that one seminar may have some bearing on this issue. Since the instructor was U.S. Army, this lecture didn't specifically relate to aircraft, but it could at least provide a historical context. International law historically has provided that if a military person is caught in a hostile country without his uniform and insignia, he can be shot as a spy. Interestingly enough, it does not violate international law to cross enemy lines in civilian clothes (and without insignia), but once across enemy lines, you have to remove the civilian clothes before you can fight. As I recall from this newsgroup, when the Israelis bombed the Iraqui reactor, they crossed Saudi Arabia using civilian codes. This may be an aviation application of the doctrine described above. I share the common belief that as a practical matter, international law is what you can get away with. More directly addressing the SR-71 insignia: Why couldn't they etch the existing coating so that the light refraction would show the national insignia? Steve Hofer aka Conslaw ------------------------------ From: leo.miller@tumbleweed.com (Leo Miller) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 18:08:00 GMT Subject: SR-71 before Mach 1 S>From: Mary Shafer S>Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 12:46:59 -0500 (EST) S>Subject: Re: SR-71 before Mach 1 S>The maneuver is called the dipsydoodle. Climb up subsonic, dive through S>the transonic, and pull up supersonic. Hi Mary, Does that mean that there's still a sense of humor at NASA? The rest of us testers used to call it the Rutowski optimum energy climb path. Or some called it the minimum time to energy level climb path. Is your ursa-major.spdcc.com address still current? I sent you several messages asking for Shuttle drag coefficient info. Did you ever receive them? Thanks, Leo (leo.miller@tumbleweed.com) - --- * OLXWin 1.00a * "I said a *BUD* Light!" - Joan of Arc. ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V5 #510 ********************************* To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@mail.orst.edu". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-skunk-works": subscribe skunk-works-digest local-skunk-works@your.domain.net To unsubscribe, send mail to the same address, with the command: unsubscribe skunk-works-digest in the body. Administrative requests, problems, and other non-list mail can be sent to either "skunk-works-digest-owner@mail.orst.edu" or, if you don't like to type a lot, "prm@mail.orst.edu A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "skunk-works-digest" in the commands above with "skunk-works". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from mail.orst.edu, in /pub/skunk-works/digest/vNN.nMMM (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" is the issue number).