skunk-works-digest Wednesday, January 14 1998 Volume 07 : Number 002 Index of this digest by subject: *************************************************** Sukhoi S-37 U-2 Photo Stealth Patents UK Bases Why deny Area 51? So Long... In Search of Patent Searcher... A&E's Investigative Reports on The USAF U-2's on the TODAY show *************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:12:56 -0500 From: Tom Robison Subject: Sukhoi S-37 Jane's International Defense Review Vol 31 January http://idr.janes.com ==================================== International Defense Digest Sukhoi's S-37 stealth prototype is years away from production, even if fully funded. However, several design features, combined with released details, permit some performance speculation. Bill Sweetman analyzes the S-37's technical features. Tom Robison, tcrobi@most.fw.hac.com Airborne Communications Systems, Raytheon Systems Co., 1010 Production Rd. Fort Wayne, IN 46808 (219) 429-5589 Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone, and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of my current employer. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 13:08:33 -0500 (EST) From: ROTRAMELJE%AM4@mr.nawcad.navy.mil Subject: U-2 Photo Any modelers who would like to build a model of the U-2 configuration shown at can get an update kit for the Testors U-2R from Meteor Productions at(703) 591-0652. They also do a nice ASARS nose. Jim Rotramel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:44:53 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Suhler Subject: Stealth Patents I found the following stealth aircraft patents on the IBM patent server: Teledyne stealth aircraft Lockheed HAVE BLUE Northrop B-2 Northrop stealth aircraft Enjoy, Paul Suhler ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:00:19 +0000 From: "Stephen O'Brien" <11506@aquinas.ac.uk> Subject: UK Bases I think the Machrihanish air base is right next to Machrihanish Golf Course, and has towers all round it's perimeter, if thats any help? I'd be interested to know if the locals are still reporting "Loud noises". By the way, what exactly has been reported at West Freugh? Incidently, has anyone ever seen photo's of Machrihanish, Boscombe Down or West Freugh? Or is photography of them illegal? Stephen O'Brien, Manchester, England ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 00:47:04 +0100 From: Samuel Sporrenstrand Subject: Why deny Area 51? I saw a program on TV the other night about the U-2 project. There they showed the films from the 50'ies when the aircraft was tested and first flew. But the funny thing was that they said that the location was Area 51 aka Dreamland, Paradise Ranch. (I don't really remember which expression they used) Is this usual? Cuz on normal swedish documentaries they only stick to known facts... Best regards // Samuel Sporrenstrand ____________________________________________________________________________________ Contact: Samuel Sporrenstrand E-mail: alltech@swipnet.se Voice: +46 (0)125-10110 Fax: +46 (0)125-40290 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 20:25:35 -0700 From: Earl Needham Subject: So Long... Friends, I've enjoyed each of these mailing lists (APRSSIG, C-130 mailing list, Flight Sim Lists, Railspot & Santa Fe Lists, Sinfonia mailing list, Sinfonia Alumni list, Skunk Works mainling list). However, I have come to the conclusion that email is taking too much of my time when I have more serious things to take care of. Therefore, I will be unsubscribing from these, and I wish you all well. I've learned a lot from each of these. 7 3 Earl Needham, KD5XB mailto:KD5XB@AMSAT.ORG Clovis, NM DM84 Registered: APRS/DOS & WinAPRS Commercial Pilot Airplane, Single Engine Land Instrument Airplane Private Priveleges, Airplane Single Engine Sea Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia, Pi Chi '76 (That was Texas A&I University.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 16:01:30 PST From: gregd@cambertx.com (Greg Fieser) Subject: In Search of Patent Searcher... Would the person who posted the patent search results from the http://patent.womplex.ibm.com/ site please contact me off-list? I'm afraid I've deleted your name/post from my archives... Any one of the e-addresses below should reach me. Thanks, Greg %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Reality is for People Who Can't Handle Simulation Greg Fieser 1/13/98 gregd@cambertx.com 4:01:30 PM (aka habu@why.net) (aka habu@airmail.net) %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:23:54 -0500 From: John Stone Subject: A&E's Investigative Reports on The USAF Hello All, I just watched A&E's Investigative Reports on The USAF last night. I haven't seen any posts on it.....Did anyone else watch it? But I do have a question, in the section on the F-117, all the pilots were carrying a small aluminum Haliburton case with them to and from the aircraft....and no one ever mentioned what was in it....at least I didn't hear anyone on the show mention it...So what is in the case? Best, John John Stone jstone@thepoint.net U-2 and SR-71 Web page: http://www.thepoint.net/~jstone/blackbird.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 10:45:45 -0500 From: gregweigold@pmsc.com Subject: U-2's on the TODAY show On the TODAY show this morning (1/14) they had a 5 minute report about U-2's. They let one of the NBC reporters go up in a 2-seat version and flew him around for a while. They leveled out at 71,500 for a long flight, but then the reporter mentioned something I found very interesting, he said that the USAF rates the ceiling of the U-2 at 80,000, but that it can go MUCH higher than that. They also did a demo in an altitude simulator, after putting him in the flight suit and hooking him up to the life support equipment, they took him to a simulated altitude of 80,000. The glass of water in the chamber with him boiled off almost immediately! Not all that fantastic, but a neat demo anyway, I'd never really thought much about the pressure/temperature effects at that height. Any comments on the statement that the U-2 can operate MUCH higher than 80,000'? The reporter seemed to emphasize the much! Greg Columbia,SC ------------------------------ End of skunk-works-digest V7 #2 ******************************* To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe in the body of a message to "skunk-works-digest-request@netwrx1.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-skunk-works": subscribe local-skunk-works@your.domain.net To unsubscribe, send mail to the same address, with the command: unsubscribe in the body. Administrative requests, problems, and other non-list mail can be sent to georgek@netwrx1.com. 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