From: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com (skunk-works-digest) To: skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Subject: skunk-works-digest V8 #14 Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com Sender: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Errors-To: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Precedence: bulk skunk-works-digest Tuesday, March 2 1999 Volume 08 : Number 014 Index of this digest by subject: *************************************************** Re: FWD: (UASR) Aurora musings [an excerpt] Re: FWD: (UASR) Aurora musings [an excerpt] Super Blimp/Rigid Airship Hackers Reportedly Seize Military Satellite Re: Super Blimp/Rigid Airship Re: Super Blimp/Rigid Airship Re: Hackers Reportedly Seize Military Satellite Re: Hackers Reportedly Seize Military Satellite LTA article [Fwd: Eat your heart out Aurora!] Re: Can You Afford Not To? Re: LTA article Son of Spam Re: LTA article Re: Aurora Musings New Stealth TV program cc:Mail Link to SMTP Undeliverable Message *************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:39:35 -0800 From: patrick Subject: Re: FWD: (UASR) Aurora musings [an excerpt] At 11:19 PM 2/26/99 -0700, you wrote: >From: Sandy Hornfeck > >CIA's latest hypersonic spy plane, Aurora, is capable of flying >at altitudes of at least 200,000 feet (40 miles) and at speeds >of Mach 6 (4000 miles per hour) or greater. While it represents >a spectacular leap forward in aircraft technology, it is >improbable that it was developed from information obtained from >captured alien spacecraft. That it is a remarkable aircraft is >beyond dispute, however, it is still an aircraft designed on >earth by human beings for operation in Earth's exoatmosphere. > For you Aurora finatic's.......We had one attend our annual air show here at the local AF base last summer. Since its so rarely seen we were surprised and pleased to see the plane. It was on static display on saturday with the standard five man security guard surrounding it with it being roped off from the public. But we could get within 30 feet of it. It really is a beautiful sleek aircraft. Very futuristic looking if you get a chance to admire it up close. The color was unique. A greenish, purplish, black irridescent color. It kept changing depending on the incident angle of sunlight hitting it. The pilot was there signing autographs for the kids. Yes, I got one too, being a kid at heart. I did ask why he wasn't wearing any identifying unit patches on his jump suit. His reply was "no comment". He did say that he wore a special suit while flying. On sunday the plane took off and did a flyby. The take off was not that spectacular considering but remember this is a fast flyer and not designed for quick performance from takeoff. The sound was like a blow torch in a pipe. Quite eerie. The flyby was incredible. The announcer said it was at least a Mach 3 pass at maybe 1000 feet. Total silence till after it passed and then a sharp loud cracking sound, not unlike a bolt of lightning striking nearby. Many car alarms were set off and we found out later a window in the control tower was shattered. The plane did a wide turn (remeber the speed!) and landed. I noticed an extremely large drogue chute was used and later was told they had to borrow them from the Army where they are used for air dropping M-1 Abrahms tanks. A bit of trivia for you Aurora history buffs. After the show that day I observed them evidently refueling the plane. A large white unmarked compressed liquid gas truck arrived from the far side of the base. I thought it was odd not having any markings or even a license plate. We were quickly ushered off the base at that point. This is such a phenomenal aircraft design which you have to see to believe!! patrick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 23:15:38 EST From: INFORMATION RESTRICTED Subject: Re: FWD: (UASR) Aurora musings [an excerpt] This sounds like a fairy tale, is this real? Have I missed something? Where can I see a photo of this mach 3 over the crowd, color shifting craft? AM I asleep? Kurt Amateur Radio Stations KC7VDG/KK7RC Monitor Station Registry KCA6ABB Based In Nevada, United States Of America In use: Kenwood: TM-251A/E, TS-570d, Yaesu: FT-8100R, FT-2500M, FT50rd, Realistic: DX-394, Icom: IC-706MKII, Uniden: BC-200xlt, BC-760xlt, Whistler: CO403DC scanning video reciever 55-806 MHz >It really is a beautiful sleek aircraft. Very futuristic looking if >you >get a chance to admire it up close. The color was unique. A >greenish, >purplish, black irridescent color. It kept changing depending on the >incident angle of sunlight hitting it. The pilot was there signing >at least a Mach 3 pass at maybe 1000 feet. Total silence till after >it >passed and then a sharp loud cracking sound, not unlike a bolt of >lightning >striking nearby. Many car alarms were set off and we found out later a >window in the control tower was shattered. The plane did a wide turn >(remeber the speed!) and landed. I noticed an extremely large drogue >chute ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 07:07:56 -0500 From: "Frank Markus" Subject: Super Blimp/Rigid Airship For list readers who do not have access to Aviation Week, there is a story about the L-M Skunk Works super airship plan in today's Sunday Times. The story, headlined "'Flying Soccer Pitch' Will Ferry An Army" is a available at the following URL: http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Sunday-Times/frontpage.html?1105625 For procrastinators, you should be aware that the Sunday Times (although the Sunday edition of The Times) has a different web site. So, I am not sure if going to the site for the daily paper and searching will find the Sunday Times story. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 07:28:27 -0500 From: "Frank Markus" Subject: Hackers Reportedly Seize Military Satellite Hackers Reportedly Seize British Military Satellite [NL](Last updated 7:24 AM ET February 28)[NL] LONDON (Reuters) - Hackers have seized control of one of Britain's military communication satellites and issued blackmail threats, The Sunday Business newspaper reported. [PARA]The newspaper, quoting security sources, said the intruders altered the course of one of Britain's four satellites that are used by defense planners and military forces around the world. [PARA]The sources said the satellite's course was changed just over two weeks ago. The hackers then issued a blackmail threat, demanding money to stop interfering with the satellite. [PARA]"This is a nightmare scenario," said one intelligence source. Military strategists said that if Britain were to come under nuclear attack, an aggressor would first interfere with military communications systems. [PARA]"This is not just a case of computer nerds mucking about. This is very, very serious and the blackmail threat has made it even more serious," one security source said. [PARA]Police said they would not comment as the investigation was at too sensitive a stage. The Ministry of Defense made no comment. I found this story on the Excite front page this morning. I had to ask whether this is not another reason that the Blackbird is superior to unmanned remotely-controlled devices (whether aircraft of satellites.) I assume that the story is true but, even if not, it raises difficult issues concerning our defenses against so-called information warfare. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:41:00 From: win@writer.win-uk.net (David) Subject: Re: Super Blimp/Rigid Airship Frank writes: >For list readers who do not have access to Aviation Week, there is a story >about the L-M Skunk Works super airship plan in today's Sunday Times. The >story, headlined "'Flying Soccer Pitch' Will Ferry An Army" is a available >at the following URL: > >http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/Sunday-Times/frontpage.html?1105625 > >For procrastinators, you should be aware that the Sunday Times (although the >Sunday edition of The Times) has a different web site. So, I am not sure if >going to the site for the daily paper and searching will find the Sunday >Times story. The Sunday Times URL: http://www.sunday-times.co.uk D ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:22:09 From: win@writer.win-uk.net (David) Subject: Re: Super Blimp/Rigid Airship I wrote: >The Sunday Times URL: http://www.sunday-times.co.uk My earlier post got away from me. I should have added that the article can be found if you select 'Contents' from the left hand menu. Scroll down headlines until you find it. D ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:06:15 -0600 From: "Allen Thomson" Subject: Re: Hackers Reportedly Seize Military Satellite Frank Markus metareported: >Hackers Reportedly Seize British Military >LONDON (Reuters) - Hackers have seized control of one of Britain's military >communication satellites and issued blackmail threats, The Sunday Business >newspaper reported. Hmm. It would be nice to have more detail. Intereference with command uplinks isn't exactly a new worry, and I'd thought those of military and spy satellites were protected by encryption. Satellites not so protected are more or less asking for such interference. >The newspaper, quoting security sources, said the intruders altered the course of >one of Britain's four satellites that are used by defense planners and military forces >around the world. This should be checkable if "altered the course" is literally true. The orbital elements of most satellies are available. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:54:06 EST From: Jasper0007@aol.com Subject: Re: Hackers Reportedly Seize Military Satellite We Just launched the latest Skynet Satellite this week. here are the details: Britain's latest military communications satellite has been launched, the Ministry of Defence confirmed today. Skynet 4E was launched last night from the European Space Agency's launch site at Kourou in French Guyana. The high-tech satellite, built by Matra Marconi Space (UK), was launched by an Ariane 4 booster rocket, supplied by Arianespace. Minister of State for Defence Procurement Lord Gilbert said: "Satellite communications are essential to support all aspects of modern military operations. "They provide communications support for our strategic and tactical nuclear forces, maritime, air and land forces under both Nato and national tasking, together with UK forces deployed overseas. Skynet 4E is the latest generation of Ministry of Defence military satellites. It has an enhanced communications package that will provide ultra-high and super-high frequency communications services to support British forces involved in wide-ranging activities. These include work as part of the Nato Rapid Reaction Force and support of humanitarian aid anywhere within the satellite's coverage area. "The successful launch of Skynet 4E ensures that this essential service is continued into the next century," said Lord Gilbert. Skynet 4E is the latest military communications satellites, dating back to the late 1960s with the launch Skynet 1. Skynet 4 first entered service in 1988. Three satellites were built by British Aerospace and Marconi - now part of Matra Marconi Space - for UK service, and two more for Nato. These are controlled by the Royal Air Force from British- based ground stations. cheers Richard from SW England ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:46:34 -0700 From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: LTA article The Sunday Times February 28 1999 BRITAIN 'Flying soccer pitch' will ferry an army by Richard Woods and Maeve Sheehan IMAGINE Wembley football pitch hovering overhead or Canary Wharf tower coming in to land. Impossible, nothing that big could fly? Wrong. In America they are creating a magnificent flying machine to beat them all. For six years Lockheed Martin, the American defence and aeronautics contractor, has secretly been designing a "superblimp", a gigantic cross between an aircraft and an airship capable of carrying 4,000 troops. Nothing about the Aerocraft, as the hybrid is being dubbed, is modest. It will be nearly 800ft long and 250ft wide with the carrying capacity of 14 Boeing 747 jets. "The Aerocraft will be the biggest flying object ever produced," said a spokesman for Lockheed, which has recruited a British firm, Airship Technologies, to help with the design. How can such a leviathan ever get off the ground? The trick is to combine old and new technology: the upper body of the craft will be fashioned from a lightweight skin filled with inert helium, which will provide about half the required buoyancy. The lower body will be made of metallic material and shaped far more aerodynamically than a conventional airship. Four "tiltrotor" engines will provide forward propulsion and upward lift. Together, calculate the designers, the systems will produce lift-off. According to Lockheed, the Aerocraft will be able to cruise at the speed of a light aircraft and cross the Atlantic in a day, even with a load of more than 500 tons. Such qualities appeal to the military despite the aerial mammoth appearing to have all the stealth and manoeuvrability of a giant flying jelly. The Pentagon has assigned officers to help on the project and envisages the Aerocraft as a means of deploying heavy equipment more rapidly than by land or sea. The Ministry of Defence said the project had potential. "In the Gulf war, there was a big problem," said Sir John Walker, chairman of Airship Technologies, and a former air marshal. "Personnel were being sent by airliner, some of their freight was being sent by air freight and their heavy equipment was going by sea. "The first thing they had to do when they got into the Gulf was to reconstitute these three elements of the unit. What this capability offers is the possibility of sending complete units abroad." The biggest carriers available to the defence ministry at present are the C130 Hercules, which can carry about 18 tons, and the Antonov 124, a Russian aircraft. The superblimp is unlikely to see service on the front line, but might not be as vulnerable as it first appears. In a test the British Army conducted on the feasibility of using airships, more than 40 bullets were fired through a craft. It was largely unaffected because the helium was contained in thousands of tiny pockets in the airship's envelope and was not under pressure. The loss of gas was minimal. Some observers claim that airships need be no more vulnerable to enemy attack than trucks or sea-going ships and would prove much cheaper to use. "If you are going to have rapid-response forces, at the present moment they are stuck with these enormous great aeroplanes, and it is very expensive to operate them," said Dr John Finlay, an aeronautical engineer. "A blimp should be cheap compared to that." Airships retain an extraordinary appeal and new commercial schemes are regularly mooted. They have even been suggested as launching pads for sending tourists into space, and an entrepreneur in South Africa has tried to build the Nelson, a luxurious airship intended as an Orient Express for the sky. But only now are commercial schemes coming to fruition. The German government is giving financial backing to an airship called the Cargolifter, which will be able to carry loads of up to 160 tons as far as 6,000 miles. One intention is to lift heavy machinery straight from the factory floor to the installation site without the need for transfers from road to rail to sea. The Aerocraft, however, is an altogether more ambitious project. The former Soviet Union managed to build a revolutionary transporter hybrid that became known as the Caspian Sea Monster. It was designed as half-hovercraft, half-plane. It managed to reach twice the speed predicted for the Aerocraft. The only snag was that it never managed to climb more than 100ft above sea level. - -- Terry W. Colvin, Sierra Vista, Arizona (USA) < fortean@primenet.com > Home Page: < http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/8832 > Sites: Fortean Times * Northwest Mysteries * Mystic's Cyberpage * U.S. Message Text Formatting (USMTF) Program - ------------ Member: Thailand-Laos-Cambodia Brotherhood (TLCB) Mailing List TLCB Web Site: < http://www.seacoast.com/~jsweet/brotherh/index.html > Southeast Asia (SEA) service: Vietnam - Theater Telecommunications Center/HHC, 1st Aviation Brigade Long Binh, Can Tho, Danang (Jan 71 - Aug 72) Thailand/Laos - Telecommunications Center/U.S. Army Support Thailand (USARSUPTHAI), Camp Samae San (Jan 73 - Aug 73) - Special Security/Strategic Communications - Thailand (STRATCOM - Thailand), Phu Mu (Pig Mountain) Signal Site (Aug 73 - Jan 74) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:58:38 -0700 From: "Terry W. 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Colvin, Sierra Vista, Arizona (USA) < fortean@primenet.com > Home Page: < http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/8832 > Sites: Fortean Times * Northwest Mysteries * Mystic's Cyberpage * U.S. Message Text Formatting (USMTF) Program - ------------ Member: Thailand-Laos-Cambodia Brotherhood (TLCB) Mailing List TLCB Web Site: < http://www.seacoast.com/~jsweet/brotherh/index.html > Southeast Asia (SEA) service: Vietnam - Theater Telecommunications Center/HHC, 1st Aviation Brigade Long Binh, Can Tho, Danang (Jan 71 - Aug 72) Thailand/Laos - Telecommunications Center/U.S. Army Support Thailand (USARSUPTHAI), Camp Samae San (Jan 73 - Aug 73) - Special Security/Strategic Communications - Thailand (STRATCOM - Thailand), Phu Mu (Pig Mountain) Signal Site (Aug 73 - Jan 74) - --------------0FD9E834ED0352E453A6BBED Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from smtp06.primenet.com (root@smtp06.primenet.com [206.165.6.136]) by primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15360 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:55:34 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) id IAA14795; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:24:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from ftp1.primenet.com(206.165.5.50) via SMTP by smtp06.primenet.com, id smtpd013915; Sun Feb 28 08:23:59 1999 Received: (from root@localhost) by ftp1.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA25602 for forteana-outgoing; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:18:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (daemon@smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by ftp1.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA25591 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:18:47 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14905 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:18:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from local01.primenet.com(206.165.6.141), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd014895; Sun Feb 28 08:18:44 1999 Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (daemon@smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05385 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:17:42 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07377 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:18:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from mailhost.dircon.co.uk(194.112.32.65) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd007365; Sun Feb 28 08:18:39 1999 Received: from dircon.co.uk (th-en133-084.pool.dircon.co.uk [194.112.53.84]) by mailhost.dircon.co.uk (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA12402 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:18:36 GMT Message-Id: <199902281518.PAA12402@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:02:31 +0000 From: Gavin Maillardet Organization: Javelin Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: forteana@primenet.com Subject: Re: Eat your heart out Aurora! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-forteana@primenet.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: forteana@primenet.com Roy Stilling wrote: > The Sunday Times > > February 28 1999 > BRITAIN > > 'Flying soccer pitch' will ferry an army > > by Richard Woods > and Maeve Sheehan > > IMAGINE Wembley football pitch hovering > overhead or Canary Wharf tower coming in to > land. Impossible, nothing that big could fly? > Wrong. In America they are creating a > magnificent flying machine to beat them all. > > For six years Lockheed Martin, the American > defence and aeronautics contractor, has secretly > been designing a "superblimp", a gigantic cross > between an aircraft and an airship capable of > carrying 4,000 troops. Nothing about the > Aerocraft, as the hybrid is being dubbed, is > modest. More than 6 years. I remember as a child (lets say AT LEAST 20 years ago) reading in various comics and magazines about how 'in the future' ( ie the 1990's) we would all be riding around in airships which would have replaced everything from Helecopters to Airliners to Cranes. > The Aerocraft, however, is an altogether more > ambitious project. The former Soviet Union > managed to build a revolutionary transporter > hybrid that became known as the Caspian Sea > Monster. It was designed as half-hovercraft, > half-plane. It managed to reach twice the speed > predicted for the Aerocraft. The only snag was > that it never managed to climb more than 100ft > above sea level. > > -- > Roy Stilling - Winchester, England, but soon to be of Cardiff, Wales > rpjs@kalevala.demon.co.uk http://www.stilling.co.uk/rpjs/ > > "Money is a sign of poverty" - old Culture proverb The Caspian Sea Monster (CSM) is not designed to 'climb to more than 100 ft above sea level' since it "flies" by the build up of a high pressure area between the surface of the sea and the underside of its body/'wings'. A conventional aircraft flies due to the pressure differential between the upper and lower surfaces of its wings, this being caused by Bernoulli's principle. The CSM can be considered to be similar to a hovercraft, but without a fan. If it went too high it would have nothing to push against. {Of course, another reason 'why aircraft fly' is because everybody inside believe they can. If more than 50% of the passengers in a 747 suddenly came to their senses and realised the truth (ie something weighing that much and made of metal should not be so high up) then the plane would plummet into the sea. This is also why large metal ships float ( and therefore why the Titanic sunk).} Gav - -- Javelin Engineering; not half as clever as we think we are. - --------------0FD9E834ED0352E453A6BBED-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 99 22:09:51 GMT From: betnal@ns.net Subject: Re: Can You Afford Not To? On 2/27/99 7:32AM, in message <199902271532.KAA12009@aegis.mcs.kent.edu>, Sam Kaltsidis wrote: > > > > jaz > > > > I believe it is also against Federal law. I vote we sue 'em. > > Sam Spam isn't against the law, in fact it's constitutionally protected. The reason most (though not all) Spammers and ISPs will respond quickly to requests (if you can find them) to remove addressees from their lists is that they fear passage of restrictive legislation if they don't. Also, sadly, even if you sue them in small claims court, there are very few Courts, at least in California, that will actually enforce a small claims judgement. Yo can take some solace from the fact that most studies of spamming show that it is virtually worthless as a sales technique, even less than junk mail. Art > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:38:05 +0000 From: Michael Ravnitzky Subject: Re: LTA article Yes, naturally, because it was designed to fly efficiently in GROUND EFFECT! Michael Ravnitzky mikerav@ix.netcom.com The article said: >The former Soviet Union >managed to build a revolutionary transporter >hybrid that became known as the Caspian Sea >Monster. It was designed as half-hovercraft, >half-plane. It managed to reach twice the speed >predicted for the Aerocraft. The only snag was >that it never managed to climb more than 100ft >above sea level. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 99 06:10:14 GMT From: betnal@ns.net Subject: Son of Spam Interesting follow-up from our earlier discussion. While we won't have much luck in suing a spammer, ISPs can and do successfully sue them. They use the law on Trespass to do so. Earthlink got an award for $2 million on a company using them for spam. So, the lesson learned is to complain to the spammer's ISP or yours. Also came across another trick used by some spammers. They have a random generation program make up names to try on domain names they come across. They then include a point of contact to stop the spam. Is someone replies complaining about the spam, they know they've got a good address. So, if you decide to contact a spammer to tell them to turn it off, wait until you've gotten more than one from the same Bozo, 'cause that means they already know they've got a good address. Art ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 02:12:38 EST From: INFORMATION RESTRICTED Subject: Re: LTA article I've seen this, the SOB is freakin' HUGE!!!!! Kurt Amateur Radio Stations KC7VDG/KK7RC Monitor Station Registry KCA6ABB Based In Nevada, United States Of America In use: Kenwood: TM-251A/E, TS-570d, Yaesu: FT-8100R, FT-2500M, FT50rd, Realistic: DX-394, Icom: IC-706MKII, Uniden: BC-200xlt, BC-760xlt, Whistler: CO403DC scanning video reciever 55-806 MHz On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:38:05 +0000 Michael Ravnitzky writes: >Yes, naturally, because it was designed to fly efficiently in GROUND >EFFECT! > >Michael Ravnitzky >mikerav@ix.netcom.com > >The article said: >>The former Soviet Union >>managed to build a revolutionary transporter >>hybrid that became known as the Caspian Sea >>Monster. It was designed as half-hovercraft, >>half-plane. It managed to reach twice the speed >>predicted for the Aerocraft. The only snag was >>that it never managed to climb more than 100ft >>above sea level. > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 99 10:46:38 -0600 From: wings Subject: Re: Aurora Musings Uh, this is MARCH the first. Wayne Wayne Busse wings@sky.net wbusse@jccc.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 02:38:59 -0800 From: patrick Subject: New Stealth TV program Av Week has an ad for a new stealth show on the Discovery cable channel. It is scheduled for 3/4/99 at 8pm EST/PST. This is a North America broadcast only. European broadcast soon, but no date. Australia?.....I think its scheduled for yesterday, check your local listings. The tape is also available at www.aviationweek.com and is entitled "STEALTH: Flying Invisible". patrick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Mar 99 05:46:20 -0500 From: rob_ivey_at_pms-hub@pmsc.com Subject: cc:Mail Link to SMTP Undeliverable Message - --simple boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ACSII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message is undeliverable. Reason: User "gregweigold@cc.pmsc.com" is not found in the cc:Mail Directory. 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It is scheduled for 3/4/99 at 8pm EST/PST. This is a North America broadcast only. European broadcast soon, but no date. Australia?.....I think its scheduled for yesterday, check your local listings. The tape is also available at www.aviationweek.com and is entitled "STEALTH: Flying Invisible". patrick - --simple boundary-- ------------------------------ End of skunk-works-digest V8 #14 ******************************** To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe in the body of a message to "majordomo@netwrx1.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-skunk-works": subscribe local-skunk-works@your.domain.net To unsubscribe, send mail to the same address, with the command: unsubscribe in the body. Administrative requests, problems, and other non-list mail can be sent to georgek@netwrx1.com. 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