From: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com (skunk-works-digest) To: skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Subject: skunk-works-digest V8 #61 Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com Sender: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Errors-To: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Precedence: bulk skunk-works-digest Tuesday, May 25 1999 Volume 08 : Number 061 Index of this digest by subject: *************************************************** Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues Yugoslavia Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues Re: Yugoslavia FWD: (TLCB) Aviation Fuel Re: Yugoslavia 4452th Logo Star Wars.... episode I Re: Star Wars.... episode I Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues FWD: (UASR) corporate influence detracting from aircraff safety Re: Star Wars.... episode I Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues "Goat Sucker" question [was 4452nd Logo] Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues *************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:28:45 -0400 From: Drew Menser Subject: Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues "James P. Stevenson" wrote: > [From a Senate Hill Staffer] > What does this have to do with Skunk Works? My vote is to toss this guy from the list..... Drew ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:27:17 -0700 From: David Lednicer Subject: Yugoslavia Gee, three people killed in a hospital mistakenly bombed vs. 900,000 people forcibly deported from their homes in Kosovo, with untold thousands executed along the way, and thats just in this round. In Croatia, in 1991, the Serbs hauled off an entire hospital population from Vukovar and executed them. In Bosnia, the entire male population of the "safe haven" of Sbernica was executed by the Serbs. I am getting really annoyed by all the people who are trying to find fault with the NATO bombing. Lets face it folks, we're at war and it was declared on us. Milosevic holds the rest of the world in contempt. To him, ethnic cleansing, with mass deportations, executions, organized rape, etc. is fully acceptable. He turned loose Serbian forces to do it in 1991 in Croatia, then in Bosnia and now in Kosovo. He just loves to see people in the outside world waver in their support of those opposing him. We said "Never Again" after WWII. Lets face it - its happening right now, in Europe no less. To those who say "we should have given diplomacy a try", I answer we have - since 1991 and the only times we got Milosevic to back down was when military force was used - by the Croatians in 1991, and by NATO in Bosnia, in 1995. To those who say "we should give economic sanctions time to work", I ask; have they worked in the eight years they have been in effect against Iraq? It seems to me that while the people of Iraq are impoverished, Sadam Hussein is still there and he finds ways to get what he wants from the outside world. I am the son of a Holocaust survivor and I am glad that NATO didn't fade when their bluff was called. If only someone had stood up to Hitler in the 1930s when he reoccupied the Rhineland, staged Kristallnacht, annexed Austria, annexed the Sudetenland and invaded the rest of the Czech lands. I visited Auschwitz and Birkenau two months ago. It is sad to think that are more such memorials being created in the former Yugoslavia right now. -David Lednicer ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:49:45 PDT From: "wayne binkley" Subject: Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues >From: Drew Menser >Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com >To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com >Subject: Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues >Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:28:45 -0400 > >"James P. Stevenson" wrote: > > > [From a Senate Hill Staffer] > > > > > >What does this have to do with Skunk Works? > >My vote is to toss this guy from the list..... > >Drew > amen. wayne d.binkley _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 99 14:07:00 -0500 From: gregweigold@pmsc.com Subject: RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues I agree - Greg W. - -----Original Message----- From: at INTERNET Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 10:49 AM To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com at INTERNET Subject: RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues >From: Drew Menser >Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com >To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com >Subject: Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues >Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:28:45 -0400 > >"James P. Stevenson" wrote: > > > [From a Senate Hill Staffer] > > > > > >What does this have to do with Skunk Works? > >My vote is to toss this guy from the list..... > >Drew > amen. wayne d.binkley _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:11:01 -0400 From: "James P. Stevenson" Subject: Re: Yugoslavia David Lednicer wrote: > Gee, three people killed in a hospital mistakenly bombed vs. > 900,000 people forcibly deported from their homes in Kosovo, with untold > thousands executed along the way, and thats just in this round. . . . [snip] I agree with just about everything you said and definitely with the sentiment. My problem with the NATO bombing is not in going to war against Serbia but in believing that we can accomplish what needs to be done without committing land troops. Before WWII, the Army Air Corps claimed that money for the Army Ground Corps should be diverted to the Air Corps because bombing could do it all. Even within the Air Corps, the bomber mafia argued against money for fighters because bombers were so heavily armored and so heavily armed that fighter escort would NOT be necessary. Schweinfurt proved that to be a fantasy of the first order. Even though the belief that we did not need ground troops or fighter escort proved erroneous , the U.S. Army Air Forces and later U.S. Air Force continued to perpetuate the myth that bombers can do it all. History tells a different story but it has not filtered to the politicians. We have the technology so it must therefor work. Acting on these beliefs without evidence has put us in this position. If you have a cancer and it doesn't go away with chemotherapy or radiation then you have to resort to surgery. Only when the combined US and NATO surgeons go into Serbia and cut up this vermin will a message be sent to future ethnic cleansers that the world will not tolerate this type of behavior. Bombers have not demonstrated an ability to send this kind of message. Jim Stevenson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:12:09 +0200 From: Frits Westra Subject: FWD: (TLCB) Aviation Fuel J8, or JP-8 in mil spec, is still in use. It's the equivalent of Jet A-1 kerosene, with added fuel system icing inhibitor. Freeze point minus 47 deg Celcius. 2 Eurocents from Frits -- fwestra@hetnet.nl > From: "Terry W. Colvin" > Subject: FWD: (TLCB) Aviation Fuel > > I was in Liquid Fuels Systems Maintenance. If my failing, addle pated > memory doesn't fail me, JP-5 was indeed Navy standard. It took higher > temperatures to ignite the stuff. It was conidered a safety factor on board > carriers. About JP-8, isn't that a juice drink with eight different > vegetables in it? :>)) Actually, I recall JP-8 being mentioned in our Tech > School, but with time it's use and designated application has escaped from > the cobwebbed halls of my memory. > > "Mitch" > 556th CES, RED HORSE > NKP 68-69 > > > > I wondered about the gas designations he used also. I retired in 87 so > > there's no telling what's in use now. As I remember JP-4 was standard > > AF, I think JP-5 was standard Navy. The only difference was the freezing > > point. But JP-8 I never used. Beats me what he was talking about. John > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 14:22:51 PDT From: "wayne binkley" Subject: Re: Yugoslavia you have a point. the only ?i have is is this the proper forum. >From: "James P. Stevenson" >Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com >To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com >Subject: Re: Yugoslavia >Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:11:01 -0400 > >David Lednicer wrote: > > > > Gee, three people killed in a hospital mistakenly bombed vs. > > 900,000 people forcibly deported from their homes in Kosovo, with untold > > thousands executed along the way, and thats just in this round. . . . >[snip] > >I agree with just about everything you said and definitely with the >sentiment. My problem with the NATO bombing is not in going to war >against Serbia but in believing that we can accomplish what needs to be >done without committing land troops. > >Before WWII, the Army Air Corps claimed that money for the Army Ground >Corps should be diverted to the Air Corps because bombing could do it >all. Even within the Air Corps, the bomber mafia argued against money >for fighters because bombers were so heavily armored and so heavily >armed that fighter escort would NOT be necessary. Schweinfurt proved >that to be a fantasy of the first order. > >Even though the belief that we did not need ground troops or fighter >escort proved erroneous , the U.S. Army Air Forces and later U.S. Air >Force continued to perpetuate the myth that bombers can do it all. >History tells a different story but it has not filtered to the >politicians. We have the technology so it must therefor work. Acting on >these beliefs without evidence has put us in this position. > >If you have a cancer and it doesn't go away with chemotherapy or >radiation then you have to resort to surgery. Only when the combined US >and NATO surgeons go into Serbia and cut up this vermin will a message >be sent to future ethnic cleansers that the world will not tolerate this >type of behavior. Bombers have not demonstrated an ability to send this >kind of message. > >Jim Stevenson wayne d.binkley _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:01:55 -0500 From: Dave Bethke Subject: 4452th Logo I ran across this question on an newsgroup but have no answer. > I have an image of the "Goat Suckers" uniform patch, but I was curious > if they had any other logos, ie nose art type pictures? I'm curious > on the Chupracabra connection, since the 4452th was flying years > before the rash of Chupracabra sightings in the early 90's. > > Thanks > --- > Gunman > To reply via email: lonegunman(at)geocities.com - -- Dave Bethke ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 12:53:11 -0700 From: Michael J Poirier Subject: Star Wars.... episode I I just got back from a 10:00 a.m. matinee of the new Star Wars flick... and I am now convinced that the SR-71 WAS developed with alien technology. The SR-71 design is a clear copy of the ship that whisks the Queen away from her planet of Naboo. And if all that Star Wars stuff happened "A long time ago, in a galaxy far away...." then Lockheed must have captured one that had landed at Groom Lake during their U-2 trials. It's a good movie, and Lockheed should be grateful for the subliminal message millions of people will receive: that the SR-71 must fly again... to save us! :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 02:25:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Wei-Jen Su Subject: Re: Star Wars.... episode I On Sat, 22 May 1999, Michael J Poirier wrote: > I just got back from a 10:00 a.m. matinee of the new Star > Wars flick... and I am now convinced that the SR-71 WAS > developed with alien technology. > > The SR-71 design is a clear copy of the ship that whisks the > Queen away from her planet of Naboo. And if all that Star > Wars stuff happened "A long time ago, in a galaxy far > away...." then Lockheed must have captured one that had > landed at Groom Lake during their U-2 trials. > Now you finally realized this things about SR-71?!?! You didn't realized that my sign "May the Force be with you" was a hint of what is going on at Skunk Works and Area 51?!?! Hehe, yeap, I saw Episode I The Phantom of Menace on the first day (wednesday) and again on Friday in the Mann Chinese Theater here in L.A. Awesome!!! All critics are wrong. The ship should call Silverbird... BTW, the end of the movie said that Anikan is Darth Vader... hehe, another bad joke :) May the Force be with you Wei-Jen Su E-mail: wsu@cco.caltech.edu - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Five-card stud, nothing wild. The sky's the limit!" Picard, dealing cards to the senior staff, "All Good Things..." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:12:02 -0700 From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues The original message failed to find me as the ISP PRIMENET server crunched messages last week. Did the "black humor" refer to stealth or the general criticisms of the bombing efficacy? I do not agree anyway. Now where is me asbestos underwear? Terry - -------------------------- gregweigold@pmsc.com wrote: > > I agree - Greg W. > > -----Original Message----- > From: at INTERNET > Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 10:49 AM > To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com at INTERNET > Subject: RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues > > >From: Drew Menser > >Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com > >To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com > >Subject: Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues > >Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:28:45 -0400 > > > >"James P. Stevenson" wrote: > > > > > [From a Senate Hill Staffer] > > > > > > > > > > >What does this have to do with Skunk Works? > > > >My vote is to toss this guy from the list..... > > > >Drew > > > amen. > > wayne d.binkley > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - -- Terry W. Colvin, Sierra Vista, Arizona (USA) < fortean@primenet.com > Home Page: < http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/8832 > Sites: Fortean Times * Northwest Mysteries * Mystic's Cyberpage * TLCB * U.S. Message Text Formatting (USMTF) Program - ------------ Member: Thailand-Laos-Cambodia Brotherhood (TLCB) Mailing List TLCB Web Site: < http://www.tlc-brotherhood.org > Southeast Asia (SEA) service: Vietnam - Theater Telecommunications Center/HHC, 1st Aviation Brigade (Jan 71 - Aug 72) Thailand/Laos - Telecommunications Center/U.S. Army Support Thailand (USARSUPTHAI), Camp Samae San (Jan 73 - Aug 73) - Special Security/Strategic Communications - Thailand (STRATCOM - Thailand), Phu Mu (Pig Mountain) Signal Site (Aug 73 - Jan 74) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:34:49 -0700 From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: FWD: (UASR) corporate influence detracting from aircraff safety < http://www.communique.com/burnelli/tunnel3.htm > An extract, but you have to start at the home page for the whole story. Nine of Burnelli's airplanes were built between 1921 and 1945, more were designed but never built. The Burnelli CBY-3, built in 1945, was the last to be built even though its performance was outstanding. Vincent Justus Burnelli, in 1963, also designed supersonic aircraft such as the one depicted below, the GB-888A. WHO SUPPRESSED THE SOLUTION: In 1917, at the break of the first World War, a number of bankers saw the potential for colossal profits in aviation and formed a cartel, a monopoly which was in the 1920s and 1930s referred to as the Air Trust. Anyone who belonged to the Air Trust would pool their patents for their mutual benefit but they went one step further, they made a deal with certain officials of the United States Government to steal patents from inventors who did not belong to the cartel. This theft was implemented by the insertion of a "save-harmless-clause" in government procurement contracts with favored companies. "The save harmless clause is in fact simply an authority granted by officials of the United States to certain private aircraft manufacturers to steal boldly and deliberately the patents of any inventor whose patent appliances the air trust may desire to use or may find necessary in its continued hold on the Government's pocketbook!" Mr. Nelson of Wisconsin, Congressional Record [2 MB/PDF] 1st Session, 68th Congress, Jan. 29, 1924, pg. 1630 [264K/PDF] The cartel still exists as does the 'save harmless clause' and the method of stealing inventions hasn't changed as is witnessed by the 1984 McDonnell Douglas letter and the 1963 Boeing letter. WHY THE SOLUTION WAS SUPPRESSED: What are political motivations for keeping the Burnelli Lifting Body from flying commercially? Before we proceed: What is politics? Politics is the application pressure to affect desired economic outcome(s) or the "...use of intrigue or strategy in obtaining any position of power or control" (Random House Dictionary of the English Language, College Edition, Random House, New York, 1968) What is a crime? A crime may be defined to be any act done in violation of those duties which an individual owes to the community. What is one of the primary elements a detective looks for when trying to solve a crime? He looks for 'who gained' from the crime. (follow the money) Keep the above in mind while you read. If you've read the page from the Congressional Record, (downloadable above), you understand that a small group of banksters and other characters (some: manufacturers, others: manufacturers-to-be) set up a cartel in 1917. When you read further into this web-site, in particular, when you look at the Carisi report which is found in the Suppression Section, you'll see that the structural cost of building a Burnelli airframe is half that of the conventional, further, McDonnell Douglas says their Burnelli type Blended Wing Body (BWB) megajet burns 30% less fuel than a conventional jet of equal size. Further, according to Boeing, with similar power, their twin engine Burnelli type B-754 had a maximum containerized payload of 160,000 lbs., while the B-767 could only carry less than half, 72,770 lbs., non containerized. In short, the Burnelli type could carry more than double the payload and fly it 1,200 nautical miles further than the B- 767! All the advantages are there right? Nope. It all depends on who you are and how you gain! Who owns the majority of aircraft today? Airlines? No! Banks? YEP. (either directly or indirectly - through financing and leasing companies). The cost of each aircraft is astronomical hence most aircraft are leased from banks (who own their own leasing companies) and if they're not leased, the Airline is paying the bank on the loan for the purchase of the aircraft. So you're the bank, do you make more money on a $150 million aircraft or one costing substantially less? You got it. In addition, if you stay with the conventional aircraft, don't you get to make loans on TWICE as many aircraft since the Burnelli will carry twice the payload and cost nearly half as much to build? In addition, due to higher take-off and landing speeds you can't build airliners carrying 800-passengers without having to lengthen runways all over the world. Who gains? If the airlines wanted to buy Burnelli type aircraft, could they? Would the banks give them loans? Don't know, it hasn't gotten that far yet, what do you think? We're dealing with a multi-billion dollar industry, which doesn't care one whit whether it kills several thousand people each year. They're corporations and everyone in those corporations are afraid of losing their jobs (as are those who work for the government) and so they do what they are told: what is best for the corporations ($s) and for the government (saving face) all for the benefit of the Bankers (which President Andrew Jackson had warned us about - see his warning in the Hot Topics section under Index). Those who have the courage to speak up get tossed out or are run over roughshod as was Rodney Stich, a former FAA inspector who has recounted his many run-ins with FAA management over blatant safety violations only to be told to retract his report or face transfer or worse. - -- Terry W. Colvin, Sierra Vista, Arizona (USA) < fortean@primenet.com > Home Page: < http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/8832 > Sites: Fortean Times * Northwest Mysteries * Mystic's Cyberpage * TLCB * U.S. Message Text Formatting (USMTF) Program - ------------ Member: Thailand-Laos-Cambodia Brotherhood (TLCB) Mailing List TLCB Web Site: < http://www.tlc-brotherhood.org > Southeast Asia (SEA) service: Vietnam - Theater Telecommunications Center/HHC, 1st Aviation Brigade (Jan 71 - Aug 72) Thailand/Laos - Telecommunications Center/U.S. Army Support Thailand (USARSUPTHAI), Camp Samae San (Jan 73 - Aug 73) - Special Security/Strategic Communications - Thailand (STRATCOM - Thailand), Phu Mu (Pig Mountain) Signal Site (Aug 73 - Jan 74) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 99 02:10:47 GMT From: betnal@ns.net Subject: Re: Star Wars.... episode I On 5/23/99 2:25AM, in message , Wei-Jen Su wrote: .. > BTW, the end of the movie said that Anikan is Darth Vader... hehe, > another bad joke :) > > May the Force be with you > > This has nothing to do with Skunk Works, I admit, but can't let this pass (although haven't seen the movie yet). Anakin IS Darth Vader (or will be when he grows up). This was established long ago (in our time). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 99 02:15:46 GMT From: betnal@ns.net Subject: Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues On 5/21/99 10:49AM, in message <19990521174946.36674.qmail@hotmail.com>, "wayne binkley" wrote: > >From: Drew Menser > >Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com > >To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com > >Subject: Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues > >Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:28:45 -0400 > > > >"James P. Stevenson" wrote: > > > > > [From a Senate Hill Staffer] > > > > > > > > > > >What does this have to do with Skunk Works? > > > >My vote is to toss this guy from the list..... > > > >Drew > > > amen. > > > I suspect that Jim may have posted to the wrong list (I never saw the original message he referred to here). You don't want to dump him. He's published a lot (in print) of really good stuff and is quite knowledgeable about a lot of skunky stuff. Even though he and I disagree on a number of points (missiles work better than guns, Jim!), I would vehemently oppose his removal. Art ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 23:06:25 -0700 From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: "Goat Sucker" question [was 4452nd Logo] The USAF "Goat Suckers " take their name from the bird not the cryptid. Goat Sucker is a proper name for the American Night Hawk. And the "Night Hawk " is the official name for the F-117 stealth fighter, which is really a bomber. If you are not confused yet, I can go on :) As a Black Project they couldn't very well use the nonexistant plane's real name now could they? Puca - -- Terry W. Colvin, Sierra Vista, Arizona (USA) < fortean@primenet.com > Home Page: < http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/8832 > Sites: Fortean Times * Northwest Mysteries * Mystic's Cyberpage * TLCB * U.S. Message Text Formatting (USMTF) Program - ------------ Member: Thailand-Laos-Cambodia Brotherhood (TLCB) Mailing List TLCB Web Site: < http://www.tlc-brotherhood.org > Southeast Asia (SEA) service: Vietnam - Theater Telecommunications Center/HHC, 1st Aviation Brigade (Jan 71 - Aug 72) Thailand/Laos - Telecommunications Center/U.S. Army Support Thailand (USARSUPTHAI), Camp Samae San (Jan 73 - Aug 73) - Special Security/Strategic Communications - Thailand (STRATCOM - Thailand), Phu Mu (Pig Mountain) Signal Site (Aug 73 - Jan 74) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 07:30:32 -0700 From: patrick Subject: Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues At 02:15 AM 5/24/99 GMT,Art wrote: > >I suspect that Jim may have posted to the wrong list (I never saw the original >message he referred to here). You don't want to dump him. He's published a lot >(in print) of really good stuff and is quite knowledgeable about a lot of skunky >stuff. Even though he and I disagree on a number of points (missiles work better >than guns, Jim!), I would vehemently oppose his removal. > > One could argue his posts are at times antagonistic and pretzel logic. He did uncloak a large myth about the 117 that was not previously discussed here. I don't agree with many of his conclusions or opinions. But I too would be disappointed if a list member was banned due to his differing point of view regarding accepted list topics. patrick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 May 99 08:58:00 -0500 From: gregweigold@pmsc.com Subject: RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues After reading Art's post, and looking through my archives, I see that Art is indeed right (as usual) and I withdraw my vote.... Jim, did you post this to the wrong list? If so, please speak up in your own defense! - -----Original Message----- From: at INTERNET Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 02:15 AM To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com at INTERNET Subject: RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues On 5/21/99 10:49AM, in message <19990521174946.36674.qmail@hotmail.com>, "wayne binkley" wrote: > >From: Drew Menser > >Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com > >To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com > >Subject: Re: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues > >Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:28:45 -0400 > > > >"James P. Stevenson" wrote: > > > > > [From a Senate Hill Staffer] > > > > > > > > > > >What does this have to do with Skunk Works? > > > >My vote is to toss this guy from the list..... > > > >Drew > > > amen. > > > I suspect that Jim may have posted to the wrong list (I never saw the original message he referred to here). You don't want to dump him. He's published a lot (in print) of really good stuff and is quite knowledgeable about a lot of skunky stuff. Even though he and I disagree on a number of points (missiles work better than guns, Jim!), I would vehemently oppose his removal. Art ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 99 06:04:53 GMT From: betnal@ns.net Subject: RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues On 5/24/99 6:58AM, in message <9905249275.AA927550836@cc.pmsc.com>, gregweigold@pmsc.com wrote: > After reading Art's post, and looking through my archives, I see that Art is > indeed right (as usual) Greg: Your check's in the mail. Art ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 06:41:07 -0700 From: patrick Subject: RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues >gregweigold@pmsc.com wrote: > > >> After reading Art's post, and looking through my archives, I see that Art is >> indeed right (as usual) > > >Greg: > > Your check's in the mail. > > > Art This is the part I like. Lets all stand up, hold hands with the person standing next to you and sing "Kumbaya" patrick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 99 09:14:00 -0500 From: gregweigold@pmsc.com Subject: RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues made out to cash, as per the agreement? - -----Original Message----- From: at INTERNET Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 06:04 AM To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com at INTERNET Subject: RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues On 5/24/99 6:58AM, in message <9905249275.AA927550836@cc.pmsc.com>, gregweigold@pmsc.com wrote: > After reading Art's post, and looking through my archives, I see that Art is > indeed right (as usual) Greg: Your check's in the mail. Art ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 May 99 11:44:00 -0500 From: gregweigold@pmsc.com Subject: RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues awwww geeee gawsh..... - -----Original Message----- From: at INTERNET Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 06:41 AM To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com at INTERNET Subject: RE: The Black Humor of NATO targeting Continues >gregweigold@pmsc.com wrote: > > >> After reading Art's post, and looking through my archives, I see that Art is >> indeed right (as usual) > > >Greg: > > Your check's in the mail. > > > Art This is the part I like. Lets all stand up, hold hands with the person standing next to you and sing "Kumbaya" patrick ------------------------------ End of skunk-works-digest V8 #61 ******************************** To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe in the body of a message to "majordomo@netwrx1.com". 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