From: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com (skunk-works-digest) To: skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Subject: skunk-works-digest V8 #120 Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com Sender: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Errors-To: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Precedence: bulk skunk-works-digest Thursday, December 23 1999 Volume 08 : Number 120 Index of this digest by subject: *************************************************** Re: skunk-works-digest V8 #119 *************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:49:25 -0800 From: Lee Markland Subject: Re: skunk-works-digest V8 #119 According to the following: http://www.thepoint.net/~jstone/bbirdm&f.html to get astronauts wings a pilot has to fly above 50 miles. Well consider this. I'm a retired AF Officer, and was on TDY years ago (1970's) to Yokohama Japan, I ate in the Officers Club and drank at the bar with crews of the Reconnasssaince version of the Canberra who wore "astronaut wings". At 09:02 AM 12/23/99 -0600, skunk-works-digest wrote: > >skunk-works-digest Thursday, December 23 1999 Volume 08 : Number 119 > > > > Index of this digest by subject: >*************************************************** >Re: Slow time on the list? >Re: Slow time on the list? >Re: skunk-works-digest V8 #118 >RE: Slow time on the list? >RE: Slow time on the list? >SR-71 Parts For sale >Re: Slow time on the list? >RE: Slow time on the list? >Re: SR-71 Parts For sale >Re: Slow time on the list? >Re: SR-71 Parts For sale >Re: Slow time on the list? >Re: TLC-Mission: Re: FWD: (TLC-Mission/SW) Re: A-12 >Re: TLC-Mission: Re: FWD: (TLC-Mission/SW) Re: A-12 >Doubled Messages >RE: SR-71 Parts For sale >RE: Doubled Messages >Re: Doubled Messages >Re: Doubled Messages >*************************************************** > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:06:18 -0600 >From: "Albert H. Dobyns" >Subject: Re: Slow time on the list? > >John Stone wrote: >> >> Hello...... >> >> I have not received any Skunk works list messages since the >> 15th....have I offend someone, or have I been removed from the list >> form not contributing enough? >> >> Best wishes for a happy holiday season to everyone. >> >> best, >> >> John >> >> John Stone >> >> blackbirds@iname.com >> >> U-2 & SR-71 Web page: http://www.thepoint.net/~jstone/blackbird.html > >I got maybe 1 or 2 in the last few weeks. >I subscribed to skunk-works but not the local >one. Does the local one have interesting info >on ii? Do you ever read rec.aviation.military >anymore? >Al > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:10:36 -0600 >From: "Albert H. Dobyns" >Subject: Re: Slow time on the list? > >Weigold, Greg wrote: >> >> Everyone's out shopping..... looking for those fake U-2 parts that >> show up on eBay every once in a while... >> >> Happy Holidays and Happy Y2K!! >> >> Greg W >> > >Fake U-2 parts? Where? what? how much? >Any SR-71 parts for sale?? >Al > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:34:18 -0800 >From: Lee Markland >Subject: Re: skunk-works-digest V8 #118 > >Re: The F117 and it's alleged 1974 design and 1979 build date. > >AF stopped using Century series designation in 1964. >I don't buy the obfuscation that the F117 tag was given as a result of >trials at Nellis (in which captured Soviet Fighters were given designations >like F116 and it just "stuck", >because my best friend was a machinist in 1969 who was casting handles for >the F117. > >So the AF backsup and backtracks to preserve "secrecy' and advanced >technology, what's new. > >Lee Markland > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:08:32 -0500 >From: "Weigold, Greg" >Subject: RE: Slow time on the list? > >This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand >this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > >- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4CC8.DDC27B86 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >On eBay? You bet!!! Just look around!!! > >GregW > >- -----Original Message----- >From: Albert H. Dobyns [mailto:ahdobyns@worldnet.att.net] >Sent: December 22, 1999 4:11 PM >To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com >Subject: Re: Slow time on the list? > > >Weigold, Greg wrote: >> >> Everyone's out shopping..... looking for those fake U-2 parts that >> show up on eBay every once in a while... >> >> Happy Holidays and Happy Y2K!! >> >> Greg W >> > >Fake U-2 parts? Where? what? how much? >Any SR-71 parts for sale?? >Al > >- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4CC8.DDC27B86 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > >RE: Slow time on the list? > > > >

On eBay?  You bet!!!  Just look around!!!  <grin> >

> >

GregW >

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-----Original Message----- >
From: Albert H. Dobyns [mailto:ahdobyns@worldnet.att.net ] >
Sent: December 22, 1999 4:11 PM >
To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com >
Subject: Re: Slow time on the list? >

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Weigold, Greg wrote: >
> >
> Everyone's out shopping..... looking for those fake U-2 parts that >
> show up on eBay every once in a while...  <grin> >
> >
> Happy Holidays and Happy Y2K!! >
> >
> Greg W >
> >

> >

Fake U-2 parts?  Where?  what?  how much? >
Any SR-71 parts for sale?? >
Al >

> > > >- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4CC8.DDC27B86-- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:08:32 -0500 >From: "Weigold, Greg" >Subject: RE: Slow time on the list? > >This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand >this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > >- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4CC8.DDC27B86 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >On eBay? You bet!!! Just look around!!! > >GregW > >- -----Original Message----- >From: Albert H. Dobyns [mailto:ahdobyns@worldnet.att.net] >Sent: December 22, 1999 4:11 PM >To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com >Subject: Re: Slow time on the list? > > >Weigold, Greg wrote: >> >> Everyone's out shopping..... looking for those fake U-2 parts that >> show up on eBay every once in a while... >> >> Happy Holidays and Happy Y2K!! >> >> Greg W >> > >Fake U-2 parts? Where? what? how much? >Any SR-71 parts for sale?? >Al > >- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4CC8.DDC27B86 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > >RE: Slow time on the list? > > > >

On eBay?  You bet!!!  Just look around!!!  <grin> >

> >

GregW >

> >

-----Original Message----- >
From: Albert H. Dobyns [mailto:ahdobyns@worldnet.att.net ] >
Sent: December 22, 1999 4:11 PM >
To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com >
Subject: Re: Slow time on the list? >

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Weigold, Greg wrote: >
> >
> Everyone's out shopping..... looking for those fake U-2 parts that >
> show up on eBay every once in a while...  <grin> >
> >
> Happy Holidays and Happy Y2K!! >
> >
> Greg W >
> >

> >

Fake U-2 parts?  Where?  what?  how much? >
Any SR-71 parts for sale?? >
Al >

> > > >- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4CC8.DDC27B86-- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:07:56 -0700 >From: Brent Clark >Subject: SR-71 Parts For sale > >Believe it or not you can by Sr-71 parts on the Web. >Check out these: >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=222425923 > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221728661 > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=222421170 > >Now you can get what you really wanted for X-Mas >Happy Holidays to all, Brent > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:23:29 -0500 >From: John Szalay >Subject: Re: Slow time on the list? > >At 03:06 PM 12/22/1999 -0600, you wrote: >> >>I got maybe 1 or 2 in the last few weeks. >>I subscribed to skunk-works but not the local >>one. > > > Glad to see you made it back, AND IS ANYONE ELSE getting double posts >all of a sudden ? > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:45:34 -0500 >From: John Stone >Subject: RE: Slow time on the list? > >Greg W. wrote: > >>Everyone's out shopping..... looking for those fake U-2 parts that >>show up on eBay every once in a while... >> > >And here I thought I was the only person who noticed that most of >that stuff was either fake or not marked correctly. > >Best, > >John > > >John Stone > >blackbirds@iname.com > >U-2 & SR-71 Web page: http://www.thepoint.net/~jstone/blackbird.html > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:41:44 -0500 >From: Gunman and Jacks >Subject: Re: SR-71 Parts For sale > >Brent Clark wrote: >>Believe it or not you can by Sr-71 parts on the Web. >>Check out these: >>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=222425923 >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221728661 >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=222421170 >> > >Dang...no engines. > > > >- ------------------------------------------------ >Gunman and Jacks >PGP Key Available (see headers) >- ------------------------------------------------ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:48:56 -0600 >From: "Albert H. Dobyns" >Subject: Re: Slow time on the list? > >John Stone wrote: >> >> Greg W. wrote: >> >> >Everyone's out shopping..... looking for those fake U-2 parts that >> >show up on eBay every once in a while... >> > >> >> And here I thought I was the only person who noticed that most of >> that stuff was either fake or not marked correctly. >> >> Best, >> >> John >> >> John Stone >> >> blackbirds@iname.com >> >> U-2 & SR-71 Web page: http://www.thepoint.net/~jstone/blackbird.html > >I heard from someone that you can buy the aluminum coated >tires but they are old A-12 tires. And they are still >expensive. Don't think I could fit them to either of >my cars. >Al > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:41:44 -0500 >From: Gunman and Jacks >Subject: Re: SR-71 Parts For sale > >Brent Clark wrote: >>Believe it or not you can by Sr-71 parts on the Web. >>Check out these: >>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=222425923 >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221728661 >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=222421170 >> > >Dang...no engines. > > > >- ------------------------------------------------ >Gunman and Jacks >PGP Key Available (see headers) >- ------------------------------------------------ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:48:56 -0600 >From: "Albert H. Dobyns" >Subject: Re: Slow time on the list? > >John Stone wrote: >> >> Greg W. wrote: >> >> >Everyone's out shopping..... looking for those fake U-2 parts that >> >show up on eBay every once in a while... >> > >> >> And here I thought I was the only person who noticed that most of >> that stuff was either fake or not marked correctly. >> >> Best, >> >> John >> >> John Stone >> >> blackbirds@iname.com >> >> U-2 & SR-71 Web page: http://www.thepoint.net/~jstone/blackbird.html > >I heard from someone that you can buy the aluminum coated >tires but they are old A-12 tires. And they are still >expensive. Don't think I could fit them to either of >my cars. >Al > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:57:33 -0700 >From: "Terry W. Colvin" >Subject: Re: TLC-Mission: Re: FWD: (TLC-Mission/SW) Re: A-12 > >Larry Clum wrote: >> Terry...There is also an SR-71 hanging over the lobby at the Air and >> Space Museum in Hutchinson, KS. How come it is not listed? BTW, the >> museum just got the Mercury capsule that was pulled from the Atlantic >> last month.....Best Museum next to Wright-Pat, in my opinion >> >> Larry > >Yep, sure is..... probably wasn't listed on Terry's list as those were >just A-12/YF-12A locations. For a comprehensive list of ALL >SR-71/A-12/YF-12s look to this site: > >< http://www.wvi.com/~lelandh/srloc~1.htm > > >It's pretty much up to date. > >Cheers, > >- -- >Bob Norway >Rockledge, Florida >Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/5953/mypage.html >ICQ# 3752712 >*************************** >Blackbird Association >Member #1263 >*************************** >Charter Member >TLCB - Thailand, Laos, Cambodia Brotherhood >http://www.tlc-brotherhood.org/ >Udorn RTAFB Nov'70 - Nov'71 >432 AMS/Autopilot >*************************** >Member Udorn VFW Post 10249 >Sawadee Home Page http://www.khonkaen.com/vfw/index.htm >*************************** >Life Member Air Force Association >http://www.afa.org >*************************** >Life Member Air Force Sergeant Association >http://www.afsahq.org/ >*************************** >SpitList >1976 Triumph Spitfire 1500 >FM43376UO - Daily Driver >*************************** >"Don't Take My Pint Mate, >I'm In The Loo!" > >- -- >Terry W. Colvin, Sierra Vista, Arizona (USA) >< fortean1@frontiernet.net > >Home Page: < http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Stargate/8958/index.html > >Sites: Fortean Times * Northwest Mysteries * Mystic's Cyberpage * > TLCB * U.S. Message Text Formatting (USMTF) Program >- ------------ >Member: Thailand-Laos-Cambodia Brotherhood (TLCB) Mailing List > TLCB Web Site: < http://www.tlc-brotherhood.org > >Southeast Asia (SEA) service: >Vietnam - Theater Telecommunications Center/HHC, 1st Aviation Brigade > (Jan 71 - Aug 72) >Thailand/Laos > - Telecommunications Center/U.S. Army Support Thailand > (USARSUPTHAI), Camp Samae San (Jan 73 - Aug 73) > - Special Security/Strategic Communications - Thailand > (STRATCOM - Thailand), Phu Mu (Pig Mountain) Signal Site > (Aug 73 - Jan 74) > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:52:51 -0500 >From: John Stone >Subject: Re: TLC-Mission: Re: FWD: (TLC-Mission/SW) Re: A-12 > >Terry C wrote: >>Yep, sure is..... probably wasn't listed on Terry's list as those were >>just A-12/YF-12A locations. For a comprehensive list of ALL >>SR-71/A-12/YF-12s look to this site: >> >>< http://www.wvi.com/~lelandh/srloc~1.htm > >> >>It's pretty much up to date. > >Leland's page is great, but there are several sources for great SR-71 >info, Leland's and: > >http://www.thepoint.net/~jstone/blackbird.html > >or David Allsion's page: > >http://www.habu.org > >Best, > >John > > >John Stone > >blackbirds@iname.com > >U-2 & SR-71 Web page: http://www.thepoint.net/~jstone/blackbird.html > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:09:16 -0500 >From: "Frank Markus" >Subject: Doubled Messages > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >- ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF4D25.63317EA0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I noticed this morning that I had two copies of each of the >message from the list. I have been fooling with the mail side of my >newsreader so it is possible that the problem is at my end. So I want to >know whether the problem is mine or more general. I would hate to ask >George to do anything that would risk my losing access to the list. > > >- ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF4D25.63317EA0 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = >xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> > > >charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > >- ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF4D25.63317EA0-- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:16:59 -0500 >From: "Weigold, Greg" >Subject: RE: SR-71 Parts For sale > >This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand >this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > >- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4D50.2779EC8C >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >I told you so!!! > >Greg W > >- -----Original Message----- >From: Brent Clark [mailto:jetguy1@ix.netcom.com] >Sent: December 22, 1999 7:08 PM >To: Skunk Works Digest >Subject: SR-71 Parts For sale > > >Believe it or not you can by Sr-71 parts on the Web. >Check out these: >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=222425923 > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221728661 > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=222421170 > >Now you can get what you really wanted for X-Mas >Happy Holidays to all, Brent > > >- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4D50.2779EC8C >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > >charset=3Diso-8859-1"> >5.5.2650.12"> >RE: SR-71 Parts For sale > > > >

I told you so!!! >

> >

Greg W >

> >

-----Original Message----- >
From: Brent Clark [HREF=3D"mailto:jetguy1@ix.netcom.com">mailto:jetguy1@ix.netcom.com]<= >/FONT> >
Sent: December 22, 1999 7:08 PM >
To: Skunk Works Digest >
Subject: SR-71 Parts For sale >

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Believe it or not you can by Sr-71 parts on the = >Web. >
Check out these: >
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Now you can get what you really wanted for = >X-Mas >
Happy Holidays to all, Brent >

> > > >- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4D50.2779EC8C-- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:53:29 -0500 >From: "Weigold, Greg" >Subject: RE: Doubled Messages > >This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand >this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > >- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4D55.40661DBA >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >I got doubles too.... > >Greg W > >- -----Original Message----- >From: Frank Markus [mailto:fmarkus@pipeline.com] >Sent: December 23, 1999 9:09 AM >To: Skunk-Works >Subject: Doubled Messages > > > > I noticed this morning that I had two copies of each of the >message from the list. I have been fooling with the mail side of my >newsreader so it is possible that the problem is at my end. So I want to >know whether the problem is mine or more general. I would hate to ask >George to do anything that would risk my losing access to the list. > > > > >- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4D55.40661DBA >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"> > > > > > >href="cid:filelist.xml@01BF4D25.62A4CF00" rel=File-List> > > > >
I got >doubles too....
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Sent: December 23, 1999 9:09 > AM
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> >- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF4D55.40661DBA-- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:00:08 -0500 >From: "Philip R. Moyer" >Subject: Re: Doubled Messages > >I'm getting doubles, too. > >Cheers, >Phil > >Philip R. Moyer, CISSP V:302.235.2141 >Senior Security Consultant F:302.996.5818 >Hyperon Consulting (http://www.hyperon.com) E:pmoyer@hyperon.com > >"If someone comes to you with a gift and you will not receive it, to whom >does the gift belong?" - Zen parable > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:02:06 -0500 >From: John Szalay >Subject: Re: Doubled Messages > >At 09:09 AM 12/23/1999 -0500, you wrote: >> I noticed this morning that I had two copies of each of >>the message from the list. > > It started yesterday and I,m getting them too........... > >------------------------------ > >End of skunk-works-digest V8 #119 >********************************* > > To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: > > subscribe > >in the body of a message to "majordomo@netwrx1.com". >If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is >coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address >to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-skunk-works": > > subscribe local-skunk-works@your.domain.net > >To unsubscribe, send mail to the same address, with the command: > > unsubscribe > >in the body. > >Administrative requests, problems, and other non-list mail can be sent >to georgek@netwrx1.com. > >A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to >subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "skunk-works-digest" >in the commands above with "skunk-works". > >Back issues are available for viewing by a www interface located at: >http://www.netwrx1.com/skunk-works/ > >If you have any questions or problems please contact me at: > >georgek@netwrx1.com > >Thanks, > >George R. Kasica >Listowner > > ------------------------------ End of skunk-works-digest V8 #120 ********************************* To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe in the body of a message to "majordomo@netwrx1.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-skunk-works": subscribe local-skunk-works@your.domain.net To unsubscribe, send mail to the same address, with the command: unsubscribe in the body. Administrative requests, problems, and other non-list mail can be sent to georgek@netwrx1.com. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "skunk-works-digest" in the commands above with "skunk-works". Back issues are available for viewing by a www interface located at: http://www.netwrx1.com/skunk-works/ If you have any questions or problems please contact me at: georgek@netwrx1.com Thanks, George R. Kasica Listowner