From: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com (skunk-works-digest) To: skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Subject: skunk-works-digest V9 #7 Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com Sender: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Errors-To: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Precedence: bulk skunk-works-digest Thursday, February 10 2000 Volume 09 : Number 007 Index of this digest by subject: *************************************************** Re: Lockheed dumps the Skunk? On achieving optical invisibility RE: On achieving optical invisibility The demise of SW RE: On achieving optical invisibility RE: On achieving optical invisibility invisible Radar? RE: On achieving optical invisibility Re: invisible Radar? *************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:01:31 -0500 (EST) From: David Allison Subject: Re: Lockheed dumps the Skunk? Whoa. This is rather interesting, considering that I am currently working with Lockheed Martin's PR firm on a licensing agree- ment regarding use of the Skunk logo. For Irwin Culver's sake, I hope they change their minds. - D - David Allison webmaster@habu.org S L O W E R T R A F F I C K E E P R I G H T tm / \ / \ _/ ___ \_ ________/ \_______/V!V\_______/ \_______ \__/ \___/ \__/ www.habu.org The OnLine Blackbird Museum On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 Xelex@aol.com wrote: > The top headline on page one of the Antelope Valley Press (9 February 2000): > > Lockheed dumps the Skunk? > > Since the consolidation of the Skunk Works and two other divisions into the > newly-formed Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company, there have been some > drastic changes. Here are a few quotes from the article: > > "Lockheed Martin Skunk Works' sly skunk logo, and the very name of the > company, don't fit the new image of Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., so they > are apparently being discarded...." > > " Even the famous 'rules' of Clarence L. 'Kelly' Johnson, the outfit's > first leader have been removed from the Palmdale headquarters' walls. The > rules were a kind of Grail - the highest of high standards. > Company officials say the rules have changed." > > This really stinks! (Like a skunk) > > Peter Merlin > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:32:50 -0800 From: "A.J. Craddock" Subject: On achieving optical invisibility - --=====================_81983030==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed ADDITIONAL NOTES AND REFERENCES (P 90) 19. For information on self-induced transparency with pulsated light, see E. L. Hahn, Scientific American, June 1967. This is a scalar EM effect. The phenomenon is observed only in insulators, not in conducting materials. A dielectric tends to stop the flow of electrons, thus stopping the bleed-off of the Kaluza-Klein 5-potential as EM force fields. Thus through the insulator or dielectric, an electrogravitational pulse is transmitted. When this pulse emerges from the other side of the dielectric, then electrons are free to move again and form ordinary EM fields, resulting in resumed EM bleed-off of the KK (Kaluza-Klein) 5-potential. Thus ordinary photons strike the dielectric, changing into electrogravitational waves which transit the opaque dielectric, and these EG waves transform back to EM waves on the far side of the dielectric. Advanced scalar EM application of this effect can make an object optically invisible. Excerpted from FER DE LANCE A Briefing on Soviet Scalar Electromagnetic Weapons by Lt. Col. T.E. Bearden (retd.), 1986 Copyright ______________________________ One wonders which aircraft currently use this effect. Tony Craddock - --=====================_81983030==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" ADDITIONAL NOTES AND REFERENCES (P 90)

19. For information on self-induced transparency with pulsated light, see E. L. Hahn, Scientific American, June 1967. This is a scalar EM effect. The phenomenon is observed only in insulators, not in conducting materials. A dielectric tends to stop the flow of electrons, thus stopping the bleed-off of the Kaluza-Klein 5-potential as EM force fields. Thus through the insulator or dielectric, an electrogravitational pulse is transmitted. When this pulse emerges from the other side of the dielectric, then electrons are free to move again and form ordinary EM fields, resulting in resumed EM bleed-off of the KK (Kaluza-Klein) 5-potential. Thus ordinary photons strike the dielectric, changing into electrogravitational waves which transit the opaque dielectric, and these EG waves transform back to EM waves on the far side of the dielectric. Advanced scalar EM application of this effect can make an object optically invisible.

Excerpted from
FER DE LANCE

A Briefing on Soviet Scalar Electromagnetic Weapons
by Lt. Col. T.E. Bearden (retd.), 1986
Copyright
______________________________

One wonders which aircraft currently use this effect.

Tony Craddock - --=====================_81983030==_.ALT-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:24:02 -0500 From: "Weigold, Greg" Subject: RE: On achieving optical invisibility This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF73FC.64257052 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Fascinating.... as Spock would say. Isn't this what a cloaking device would be? Greg W - -----Original Message----- From: A.J. Craddock [mailto:craddock@west.net] Sent: February 10, 2000 12:33 PM To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com Subject: On achieving optical invisibility ADDITIONAL NOTES AND REFERENCES (P 90) 19. For information on self-induced transparency with pulsated light, see E. L. Hahn, Scientific American, June 1967. This is a scalar EM effect. The phenomenon is observed only in insulators, not in conducting materials. A dielectric tends to stop the flow of electrons, thus stopping the bleed-off of the Kaluza-Klein 5-potential as EM force fields. Thus through the insulator or dielectric, an electrogravitational pulse is transmitted. When this pulse emerges from the other side of the dielectric, then electrons are free to move again and form ordinary EM fields, resulting in resumed EM bleed-off of the KK (Kaluza-Klein) 5-potential. Thus ordinary photons strike the dielectric, changing into electrogravitational waves which transit the opaque dielectric, and these EG waves transform back to EM waves on the far side of the dielectric. Advanced scalar EM application of this effect can make an object optically invisible. Excerpted from FER DE LANCE A Briefing on Soviet Scalar Electromagnetic Weapons by Lt. Col. T.E. Bearden (retd.), 1986 Copyright ______________________________ One wonders which aircraft currently use this effect. Tony Craddock - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF73FC.64257052 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Fascinating.... as Spock would say.   Isn't this what a cloaking device would be?
 
Greg W  
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ADDITIONAL NOTES AND REFERENCES (P 90)

19. For information on self-induced transparency with pulsated light, see E. L. Hahn, Scientific American, June 1967. This is a scalar EM effect. The phenomenon is observed only in insulators, not in conducting materials. A dielectric tends to stop the flow of electrons, thus stopping the bleed-off of the Kaluza-Klein 5-potential as EM force fields. Thus through the insulator or dielectric, an electrogravitational pulse is transmitted. When this pulse emerges from the other side of the dielectric, then electrons are free to move again and form ordinary EM fields, resulting in resumed EM bleed-off of the KK (Kaluza-Klein) 5-potential. Thus ordinary photons strike the dielectric, changing into electrogravitational waves which transit the opaque dielectric, and these EG waves transform back to EM waves on the far side of the dielectric. Advanced scalar EM application of this effect can make an object optically invisible.

Excerpted from
FER DE LANCE

A Briefing on Soviet Scalar Electromagnetic Weapons
by Lt. Col. T.E. Bearden (retd.), 1986
Copyright
______________________________

One wonders which aircraft currently use this effect.

Tony Craddock
- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF73FC.64257052-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:53:39 -0600 From: "Allen Thomson" Subject: The demise of SW The URL for the AVP story is http://avpress.com/n/westy1.hts Because this is a limited distribution, not-for-profit, kinda educational mailing list, I'm going to take a chance that the copyright police won't kick in my door and post the whole thing: - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Lockheed dumps the Skunk? Vice President Paul Martin ousted This story appeared in the Antelope Valley Press February 9, 2000 By MICHAEL BITTON Valley Press Staff Writer PALMDALE - Has the little skunk that graced the logo of Lockheed Martin's legendary, once top-secret Skunk Works division been sacked? Company insiders say it is so, and add that one of the firm's top executives also is going. Lockheed Martin Skunk Works' sly skunk logo, and the very name of the company, don't fit the new image of Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., so they are apparently being discarded - a shocking development for a once-secret aerospace titan whose brand has been synonymous with excellence since the U-2 emerged from its black world hangar at the threshold of the Cold War 1950s. Even the famous "rules" of Clarence L. "Kelly" Johnson, the outfit's first leader, have been removed from the Palmdale headquarter's walls. The rules were a kind of Grail - the highest of high standards. Company officials say the rules have changed. "The Skunk Works will revert to being a nickname," company spokesman Gary Grigg said. "Palmdale is now one of three Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co. sites." Paul Martin, former Skunk Works executive vice president, apparently has to go as well. Sources told the Valley Press that Martin is being forced out by Dain Hancock, new president of Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co. Grigg characterized Martin's departure as part of the streamlining of the three companies under the new company's umbrella, which has sites in Palmdale, Marietta, Ga., and Fort Worth, Texas. "We have management hierarchy in three companies we need to consolidate into one," Grigg said. "Otherwise you don't change anything." In making the change, it is a ditching of tradition and an emblem of pride. That same emblem once required secrecy. The Skunk Works begat a legacy of historic aircraft that continues to this day. This symbolic development occurs as Lockheed stock prices have been teetering, accompanied by turbulence and change at the top of the defense contracting giant. Lockheed announced Jan. 28 that, effective immediately, it had consolidated its aircraft operations in Palmdale (advanced projects) with Marietta (C-130J and F-22) and Fort Worth, where the F-16 is built. The move was designed to eliminate 2,500 jobs, with about 800 of those from the Antelope Valley's Skunk Works, which are no more. The cuts are expected to be equal across the three sites and occur over the next 18 months. The cuts are also expected to save the new company $200 million. Grigg said Tuesday the cuts will come largely from the professional ranks. "We've got good people but fewer slots available," Grigg said. The realignment climaxes what could only be described as a trying year for the legendary aircraft research and development division. Last year, the Defense Department canceled Dark Star, an unmanned aerial spy aircraft. Also, the X-33 project - intended to serve as prototype for the Venturestar space shuttle craft - encountered significant design and test delays, including the rupture of a fuel tank in test. The Boeing Co. recently unveiled its prototypes for the joint strike fighter at Air Force Plant 42 where Lockheed Martin is building its own prototype. The two aircraft giants are locked in a duel for history's biggest fighter contract. Late last year, Jack Gordon, who was the Skunk Works chief, announced abruptly that he was retiring. And now, the firm is apparently ousting Martin, who has been at the apex of the company's tradition of cutting-edge aircraft. Asked about the skunk ouster, Martin said he knew "quite a bit" but was not free to discuss it. Asked about his own departure, Martin responded, "I really don't want to comment on that." In a recent Valley Press interview, Martin exuded confidence about the company's future in developing futuristic aircraft. He noted that if concepts appeared to be science fiction, the Skunk Works was the company that could transform the concept into science fact. Hancock is a former corporate executive vice president for Lockheed Martin Corp. His background is in the General Dynamics Corp.'s F-16 Fighting Falcon program in Fort Worth. Lockheed bought General Dynamics in 1992, and Hancock has risen through Lockheed's corporate structure. Grigg said Tuesday that Hancock's new management team for Lockheed Martin Aeronautical Systems will be announced in about a month. Martin will not be on that team, Grigg confirmed. Martin is the former tactical aircraft vice president for the Skunk Works. In that role, he was responsible for all engineering, financial, operational, planning and control functions on the joint strike fighter, the F-117A Nighthawk, the F-22 Raptor, the A-4 upgrade and all classified tactical programs at the Skunk Works. Martin joined Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Company in 1981 as chief of the Engineering Flight Test Division. He joined the Advanced Tactical Fighter program at the Skunk Works in 1984, and participated in the preliminary design and proposal activities that led to the contract for the YF22 in 1986. In 1987, Martin was appointed chief engineer for system integration. He left the ATF program in 1988 to become deputy program manager for the SR-71 Blackbird. He was named F-117A program manager in 1989 and in January 1993 was appointed vice president of the F-117 programs. Sources told the Valley Press on Tuesday that new President Hancock and Martin don't get along. The rift dates back to the days when the Skunk Works fought General Dynamics in bids for military aircraft. Regarding the retirement of the Skunk Works mascot, Grigg said it had not yet been entirely banished from the corporate identity. "You're still going to be able to buy T-shirts with the skunk on them," Grigg said. "There may not be as many skunk logos on the buildings when we repaint them." The Skunk Works, formerly based in Burbank, took its name from "Li'l Abner" cartoonist Al Capp's "Skonk Works," a moonshine factory in the bygone comic strip. Grigg said there will be a tendency at the company to want to consolidate mentally, and that a lot of direction will be coming out of Fort Worth. Fort Worth doesn't have a skunk, or any logo other than the Lockheed star. During the Cold War, the skunk was a secret badge of pride. Husbands couldn't tell their wives what they did at work. Company officials, including Kelly Johnson, traveled under aliases and cover names. Projects within the Skunk Works had code names, such as Oxcart and Have Blue - projects that later became known as legendary airplanes such as the SR-71 Blackbird spy plane and the F-117 Nighthawk stealth fighter. When the Skunk Works moved from its Burbank headquarters to the Antelope Valley in 1994, the fact that one of the world's historic aircraft firms was headquartered in the "aerospace valley" became a point of pride and prestige and an eventual signal of economic revitalization for the area of California most hard-hit by post-Cold War defense downsizing. But now, consolidation as the aeronautics division will help what was three companies become one unified organization with stronger direction, Grigg said. "There will be other management changes, there's no question," he said. Regarding the removal of Kelly Johnson's "rules" from the walls, Grigg said some of them do not apply today. "The way you handle suppliers, testing and quality issues have changed," he said. "The black program initiatives, you don't see them coming along that much anymore," Grigg said. "Now it's more of a hands-on and collaborative customer. It's not 'here's the specs; here's the contract; here's the money; go build it.' " Grigg conceded some moves won't be greeted with joy. "Change is tough," he said. "People react to it differently. We've got a pretty senior work force with generally higher salaries. Ideally you like to have a nice mix. We tend to be older." Changes at the Skunk Works used to happen slowly. But in the past four months, the company has lost its then-president, Gordon and, with the departure of Martin, its executive vice president as well. They were the top executives. Kelly Johnson, the first leader of Lockheed's advanced development projects department, led the revered shop from 1943, when it dreamed up the XP-80, one of the earliest jet fighters, until 1975. Johnson's successor, Ben Rich, was in charge from 1975 through the 1980s. Sherm Mullin took the helm after Rich, and stayed until March 1994. Then came Gordon, who stayed until October 1999. Some say Gordon was forced out because the Skunk Works hadn't lived up to profit projections. The current president, Robert T. "Bob" Elrod, came to town from Fort Worth, where he was executive vice president of Lockheed's Tactical Aircraft Systems Division. He came with the task of making the Skunk Works a leaner and more efficient company, one that could win the joint strike fighter competition. The ascension of Elrod, whose experience is in managing production of F-16s, was a departure from the Skunk Works' corporate culture. In the past, Skunk Works leaders rose from the engineering ranks, in the tradition of Kelly Johnson. It's a shift from top-secret, "hands off" management to a very visible, stockholder-driven culture that not all in the still largely secret organization are comfortable with. After serving 21 years in the Air Force, Elrod joined General Dynamics Co.'s F-16 program in 1978. "He brings together a wealth of program-management experience" spanning 21 years in the Air Force and another 21 years with the F16 program, Grigg said at the time of Elrod's appointment. Elrod's education is in business, not engineering. He holds bachelor's and master's degrees in business administration from the University of Oklahoma and Ohio State University, respectively. Grigg downplayed the idea that Fort Worth is "taking over" what was the Skunk Works. "I know, I know; it's not Fort Worth's president who retired," Grigg said. "And it's not Fort Worth's executive vice president who retired. It's Palmdale's." Grigg said the changes are part of making Lockheed more competitive as a company overall. Gordon took over the Skunk Works as the division became a company, and made a shift from working in the nearly all "black world" of top-secret government projects, into working in the "white world" of competitive aerospace project development. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:42:55 -0500 (EST) From: David Allison Subject: RE: On achieving optical invisibility Pardon my asking, but what is "electrogravitational"? I'm the first to admit I don't have a master's degree in Science, but what does gravity have to do with electricity? MAGNETISM and electricity go hand-in-hand, but I thought gravity was a function of an object's mass affecting the space surrounding it, not its electrical charge or the amount of energy contained within it. - D - David Allison webmaster@habu.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:59:02 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Kaltsidis Subject: RE: On achieving optical invisibility > Pardon my asking, but what is "electrogravitational"? > > I'm the first to admit I don't have a master's degree in Science, > but what does gravity have to do with electricity? MAGNETISM and > electricity go hand-in-hand, but I thought gravity was a function > of an object's mass affecting the space surrounding it, not its > electrical charge or the amount of energy contained within it. > > - D - > > David Allison > webmaster@habu.org > Oh, no we are being invaded by the Zerg. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:58:47 -0800 From: Timothy Toth Subject: invisible Radar? I believe stealth is due to a combination of different, technologies, and just as computer related technology it's fast moving. Shaping, radar absorbing coatings and structures, and active stealth are probably all involved in the latest designs. Proof of the fact that this is a very fast moving field is the on going program to make the F-117 even stealthier, and bringing all the F-117 to the same standard of stealthiness; replacing pitot tubes, changing IFF antenna, changing RAM coatings etc... However one thing puzzles me; how did they manage to make the radar antenna stealthy? They probably didn't have what was needed when they built the F-117, which would explain why it has no radar (plus the fact that they probably didn't have the technology to make it's emissions discreet enough). But the B-2, the F-22, the reported 'triangular' Blimp etc... all have a radar. How would they make the antenna of the radar stealthy when the aim of a radar antenna is to emit and RECEIVE radar waves! Is it unstealthy at it's own wavelength? Does anyone have an idea? In reply to the question about the Mig 1.42. I also thought it looked pretty unstealthy, I think Russian stealth technology is still 10-15 years behind US (and British?) stealth technology, I imagine the Mig 1.42 would have a RCS equivalent to that of the F-18 E/F, and F-16C/D which is reported as being 1.19sqm, although that sounds quite high for the F-18 E/F but then again maybe it's due to the radar :-) They have mentioned that their Mig 1.42 is stealthier than the F-22. The only way I see this as possible is with a very effective active system. But the article I read about a Russian active stealth system seemed more like badly written propaganda than anything else. If they had such a system and it was so cheap and easy to install why would they rely on RAM coatings for their SU-30MK and Mig-29SM? It also appears that it's competitor the S-37 is gaining momentum, so the Mig 1.42 may never become operational. The claims for the S-37 are that it is less stealthy than the F-22 because it doesn't trade any of it's aerodynamism to better it's stealthiness, relying instead on super-agility. Which once again points to the fact that stealth is due to a combination of technologies and that this wonderful Russian active system, if it exists, is not sufficient on it's own. However The Russians have just increased their R&D budget by 80%, and they are getting a lot of money from their sales to China and India. So if this active stealth system is just an untested prototype we can expect work to be done on it pretty soon. Timothy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:07:00 -0800 From: "A.J. Craddock" Subject: RE: On achieving optical invisibility Read http://www.cseti.org/position/addition/bearden.htm and Discrepancies in Present EM Theory http://www.cseti.org/bearden/newteslaem/22discrepancies.htm Tony Craddock _____________________ At 04:42 PM 2/10/00 -0500, David Allison wrote: >Pardon my asking, but what is "electrogravitational"? > >I'm the first to admit I don't have a master's degree in Science, >but what does gravity have to do with electricity? MAGNETISM and >electricity go hand-in-hand, but I thought gravity was a function >of an object's mass affecting the space surrounding it, not its >electrical charge or the amount of energy contained within it. > > - D - > >David Allison >webmaster@habu.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:35:17 -0800 From: Dan Zinngrabe Subject: Re: invisible Radar? >However one thing puzzles me; how did they manage to make the radar >antenna stealthy? That's a very good question >They probably didn't have what was needed when they built the F-117, >which would explain why it has no radar (plus the fact >that they probably didn't have the technology to make it's emissions >discreet enough). But the B-2, the F-22, the reported >'triangular' Blimp etc... all have a radar. How would they make the >antenna of the radar stealthy when the aim of a radar >antenna is to emit and RECEIVE radar waves! Is it unstealthy at it's own >wavelength? >Does anyone have an idea? Well, the F-117, for it's mission, didn't *require* a radar, though I'm sure that the AF would not have minded including a F-15E type MTI/SAR radar for the F-117 if it was feasible. Assuming they could develop one that was "stealthy" enough, they still may not have been able to include one, as the shape of the aircraft determined much of the avionics fit. Once the "hopeless diamond" shape was validated few people wanted to mess with it. That aside, after the SENIOR TREND program was underway progress was made in the development of "Low Probability of Intercept" radars. TACIT BLUE was probably the first flying LO aircraft to use one (assuming the Lockheed stealth cruise missile - SENIOR PROM - did not use one), and definitely validated the concept of marrying the new LPI radars with LO aircraft. A quick search on revealed a nice synopsis of LPI radars: From: AD Number: ADA246315 Subject Categories: RADAR COUNTERMEASURES ACTIVE & PASSIVE RADAR DETECTION & EQUIPMENT Corporate Author: DEFENCE RESEARCH ESTABLISHMENT OTTAWA (ONTARIO) Title: Interception of LPI Radar Signals. Descriptive Note: Technical note, Personal Authors: Lee, Jim P. Report Date: NOV 91 Pages: 55 PAGES Report Number: DREO-TN-91-23 "effectiveness of potential low probability of intercept (LPI) techniques, such as waveform coding, antenna profile control and power management, that a radar may employ against current Electronic Warfare (EW) receivers." .... "Finally, three potential LPI receiver architectures, using channelized, superhet and acousto-optic receivers with narrow RF and video bandwidths are discussed." What's interesting here is that in the late 1980s and early 1990s, there was a buzz in the black world concerning new signal processing techniques for counter-stealth utilizing "Bragg cell channelizers" and "acousto-optical" signal processing techniques for ultra wideband radarm bistatic radar, and several other counterstealth schemes, with work on US systems conducted at the Tonopah Electronic Warfare Range and several adjacent areas. Several of these systems were supposedly tested against F-117 and B-2 aircraft (which could explain several unscheduled daylight B-2 overflights of Groom during that period). Here's someone's reprint of an AW&ST article from about that time, touching on black acousto-optical research: Definition of a Bragg cell: There was a great IEEE Spectrum article on acousto-optical signal processing research from around 1993, unfortuntately I haven't been able to find a reference to it on the web. I may have it around somewhere, if I find it I'll post it- quite interesting, very well written. You may have a lot of luck finding more information on the IEEE site Nonetheless, the question of how to make a LO antenna or radome is very interesting. The radome could be constructed or materials that are transparent to a limited range of frequencies, but I assume this could be challenging for a frequency agile radar or interfere with other LO aspects such as the IR signature (much of the absorbed frequencies would be radiated as heat). A very interesting problem, and so far I haven't found anything on it in the open literature. Dan _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ The software you were born with helps you follow thousands of different threads on the Internet, whip up gourmet feasts using only ingredients from the 24-hour store, and use words like "paradigm" and "orthogonal" in casual conversation. It deserves the operating system designed to work with it: the MacOS. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ------------------------------ End of skunk-works-digest V9 #7 ******************************* To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe in the body of a message to "majordomo@netwrx1.com". 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