From: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com (skunk-works-digest) To: skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Subject: skunk-works-digest V9 #39 Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com Sender: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Errors-To: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Precedence: bulk skunk-works-digest Saturday, June 3 2000 Volume 09 : Number 039 Index of this digest by subject: *************************************************** Re: TLC-Mission: Re: FWD: (TLC-Mission/SW) Re: A-12 in memory of our fallen comrades One Man's Tribute to World War II Veterans Re: One Man's Tribute to World War II Veterans Fwd: [AIRCRAFT-LIST] Encyclopedia on Air Power Fwd: USAF museum url [none] *************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 23:21:45 -0500 From: "Albert H. Dobyns" Subject: Re: TLC-Mission: Re: FWD: (TLC-Mission/SW) Re: A-12 John Stone wrote: > > Terry C wrote: > >Yep, sure is..... probably wasn't listed on Terry's list as those were > >just A-12/YF-12A locations. For a comprehensive list of ALL > >SR-71/A-12/YF-12s look to this site: > > > >< http://www.wvi.com/~lelandh/srloc~1.htm > > > > >It's pretty much up to date. > > Leland's page is great, but there are several sources for great SR-71 > info, Leland's and: > > http://www.thepoint.net/~jstone/blackbird.html > > or David Allsion's page: > > http://www.habu.org > > Best, > > John > > John Stone > > blackbirds@iname.com > > U-2 & SR-71 Web page: http://www.thepoint.net/~jstone/blackbird.html I believe Leland Haynes is using a file I created about 10 years ago. While I did try to keep it uptodate, I was on FIDOnet and didn't know that the files I made got imported to Internet and people's web sites. Of the three sites mentioned by John I have to rate mine not as uptodate as John's file and David Allison's file. When I went to Leland's really nice web site, I was totally shocked to my Blackbird locations list! Unfortunately it had my old Internet address as well as our old snail-mail address. I believe Leland has already made some updates so I hope it's reasonably close to 100% as possible. All of the time I was using FIDOnet, I was using my 1983 IBM PC/XT and 360K 5.25" floppies. At some point the HD failed and I didn't backup my Blackbird files. Now I'm on Internet and don't have any way to copy those ancient floppies to 3.5" disks. And I donated all of the PC computer except for the printer to an "electonic recycling" site. Still have 100s of 5.25" floppies but I think I will throw them out. I hated to throw out the NEC multi-sync monitor that was very popular before 1990. It still worked after 10+ years! Enough babbling... Al ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 12:19:20 PDT From: "wayne binkley" Subject: in memory of our fallen comrades

 

The custom of placing flowers on graves is an old one that exists in many countries. Today, almost everywhere around the globe, people have a special day to honor not only those who gave their lives in battle, but also family members and friends whom they wish to remember.

 


Eulogy for a Veteran

Do not stand at my grave and weep.
I am not there, I do not sleep.

I am a thousand winds that blow.
I am the diamond glints on snow.

I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the Gentle autumn rain.

When you awaken in the mornings hush,
I am the swift uplifting rush
of quiet birds in circled flight,
I am the soft stars that shine at night.

Do not stand at my grave and cry,
I am not there, I did not die.

~Author Unknown

On May 29, 2000,
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------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 12:34:06 PDT From: "wayne binkley" Subject: One Man's Tribute to World War II Veterans - ----Original Message Follows- (#2000-107) - Topics This Issue: 1) One Man's Tribute to World War II Veterans - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 21:30:16 -0700 From: Christian Wilson Subject: One Man's Tribute to World War II Veterans One Man's Tribute to World War II Veterans By Harry R. Carter, Ph.D., MIFireE Lord let us pause to remember them all: who answered our country's danger call. They came from the east, north, south and west: to give their all - to protect the rest. As war clouds broke in the far off distance: they trained with diligence and persistence. Warm memories of home carried them through the days: so often long and fraught with frustration and delays. The time for battle drew close, so near; their destination was war, their companion fear. They did their job, a most deadly task; No quarter did they give nor quarter ask. Through jungles, over deserts, in the chill winters night: They battled the enemy and drove home the fight. To the enemy's door step they fought and bled: They knew this was the only path to home which led. When the fight was over and the battles done: The foe was vanquished and the war was won. Our people came back to the freedom they'd earned To a land of freedom that the enemy had spurned. In public and private they resolutely vowed To honor the dead both in private and aloud. The lessons of war to keep brightly alight to honor the lives which were lost in the fight. As the years flew by with increasing speed; fewer people would pause, the lessons to heed. Of what happens when freedom is taken for granted: By those whose views are selfish or slanted. Their ranks grow thinner with each passing year: As they pause, another bugle call they hear. Those people who answered the danger call Now one by one - by the wayside fall. God bless them and keep them but most of all Please give us the strength to answer the call. For freedom's a blessing you'll surely agree. But its price is the blood of people like you and me. In memory of Colonel Harry B. Carter, AUS Retired (1922-1988) a Combat Veteran of World War II who answered the call to arms in April of 1940, while still a senior at Freehold High School. With Permission ©2000 Harry R. Carter, Ph.D. www.harrycarter.com - ------------------------------ End veterans@lists.militaryhub.com Digest (05/27/2000 21:01) - ------------------------------------------------------------ - --------------------------------------------------------- You may unsubscribe to any of the MilitaryHub email newsletters at the following address: http://www.militaryhub.com/unsubscrib.asp ========================================================= ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 20:39:47 -0500 From: "George R. Kasica" Subject: Re: One Man's Tribute to World War II Veterans Wayne: Thank you for a lovely tribute. I have a father who served in the US Army on Okinawa in WW-II and an Uncle Ralph (his 19 yr old brother) was also in the Army but sadly killed in Europe, and now rests at Rock Island National Cemetery in Rock Island, Iowa. We have the flag and silver star here but we'd rather have him thats for sure. George Kasica George, MR. Tibbs & The Beast Kasica Waukesha, WI USA georgek@netwrx1.com http://www.netwrx1.com ICQ #12862186 Zz zZ |\ z _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' _ ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'_' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:39:39 PDT From: "wayne binkley" Subject: Fwd: [AIRCRAFT-LIST] Encyclopedia on Air Power - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Yared, Michael" Reply-To: Aircraft Listserv To: AIRCRAFT-LIST@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU Subject: [AIRCRAFT-LIST] Encyclopedia on Air Power Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 14:42:08 -0400 Subject: CFP: Encyclopedia on Air Power Wanted: interested people who wish to contribute their knowledge of air power to a new encyclopedia on the subject. ABC CLIO is creating a set of encyclopedias on military history, and two of the volumes will deal with air power over the years. I am acting as editor of these two volumes, under the guidance of Dr.Spencer Tucker, John Biggs Professor of Military History at Virginia Military Institute. I am soliciting contributors for the work, which will have about 1,200 entries and run to some 400,000 words in length. The entries will be compact, averaging about 400 words. The volume will also contain illustrations, maps, an index, chronology and a descriptive list of contributors. Your assistance, either as a contributor, or as someone who will forward this to a contributor, is greatly appreciated. For more information, please contact Walter J. Boyne wboyne@cqi.com 21028 Starflower Way Ashburn VA 20147-4700 703 689 1344 Fax 703 729 0241 To sign off of this list send email to listserv@listserv.buffalo.edu and in the body of the email put only the line: unsub AIRCRAFT-list ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 09:44:07 PDT From: "wayne binkley" Subject: Fwd: USAF museum url This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_7057bc85_377f6346$62f12cc1 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - ------=_NextPart_000_7057bc85_377f6346$62f12cc1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from 170.94.240.60 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Jun 2000 09:24:04 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.94.240.60] From: "wayne binkley" To: wbinkley@hotmail.com Subject: USAF museum url Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 09:24:04 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html X-Stn-Info:

for some GREAT photos,please go to this link(for the reasons listed below photos can not be posted to news groups,ETC)                                                                           http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/ind/cind.htm



PRIVACY, SECURITY AND USE NOTICE

1. The USAF Museum web site is provided as a public service by the United States Air Force Museum.

This web site is a volunteer project. Although hosted on Wright-Patterson AFB web servers, all content is created, developed and maintained by volunteers using information provided primarily by the USAF Museum Public Affairs and Research Divisions.

We strive to ensure the accuracy of all information presented on the web site, but there are no guarantees. When in doubt, check with the professional staff. See the How to Contact the USAF Museum page for details.

2. Information presented on the USAF Museum web site is considered public information and may be distributed or copied after coordination with the Museum's Public Affairs and/or Research Division. Use of appropriate byline/photo/image credits is requested -- we suggest:
"Photos/Information courtesy of the US Air Force Museum".

Department of Defense organizations may use web site material on official organizational pages without prior approval of the Museum staff. However, we'd appreciate a brief email describing the use for our records.

Most Information presented on the USAF Museum web site is available in the USAF Museum Archives which is open to the public for research purposes.

If you wish to use USAF Museum web site information (including photos) you should copy it from the original source material in the archives. In certain cases, the Museum's Public Affairs Division and/or the Research Division may approve reuse of material directly from the web site (i.e. copied or downloaded from the web site rather than from the original source location in the archives.) In many cases, donated photos and documents have instructions which apply to any reuse (commercial or otherwise).

These donated items are not in the unrestricted public domain.

The following table has frequently asked questions and answers:

Rules for using information/image files directly from the USAF Museum web site
Can I use information/images for my school project? (reports, assignments, etc) Yes, educational use is OK as long as it's not for electronic (web site, cd-rom, etc.) or 'for profit' (fund raising) republication. (see below for details)
Can I use information/images on a CD-ROM project? No, you must get the information/images from the USAF Museum archives in person.
Can I use information/images on my personal web site? company web site? etc. No, you must get the information/images from the USAF Museum archives in person.
Can I post images or information to a news group? No, all re-publication of USAF Museum web site information to any internet site, including posting to news groups, is prohibited.
Can I use information/images in my publication? (magazine, book, newsletter) No, you must get the information from the USAF Museum archives in person.
Can I use information/images on my educational website as part of a class?

Yes, mail a brief description of your proposed use along with the website URL which must be in the .edu domain on school letterhead to:
USAF Museum Research Division
1100 Spaatz Street
Wright Patterson AFB, OH 45433

We would encourage you to link to appropriate sections rather than copying and republishing them whenever possible.

Can I use information/images on my educational website if I don't have a .edu domain name? No, you must get the information from the USAF Museum archives in person.
How come I can't use the information directly off the USAF Museum website?

In many cases, archive material--especially photographs--are donated with conditional or limited reuse agreements and in some cases copyrights. The USAF Museum web site provides this information as a public service, but all reuse (except as outlined above) must be coordinated through the Research Division to ensure credit and legal guidelines are followed. These items are not in the public domain.

Secondly, the USAF Museum web site is a volunteer project--we don't have any authority to grant permission to use USAF Museum information/photos.

I can't travel to the USAF Museum archives, can I use web site information/photos if the Research Division approves it? In most cases, no. The Research division archives are indexed using a system completely different from the web site. Unless you can reference the object using the archives scheme, the archivist has no way to cross-reference a request from the web site to the actual archives folder (there are thousands of folders and hundreds of thousands of photos and documents).
How come your reuse rules are so restrictive?

Unfortunately, unauthorized reuse of USAF Museum web site information/images is a serious problem. In many cases, the reuse implies USAF Museum or United States Air Force endorsement which is never the case.

Second, the web site exists to promote the actual USAF Museum. Although the USAF Museum is free to all visitiors, the number of visitors is critical to our survival (funding!) Material republished from the USAF web site, in many cases, doesn't even mention there is a USAF Museum. We encourage you to link to sections of the USAF Museum web site for your projects rather than copy and republish it (which is unauthorized reuse as outlined above).

Lastly, the rules have always been this way. Before the web site, researchers had to travel to the USAF Museum archives to gather information. We simply want to ensure all reuse is coordinated through the Research Division as required. We aren't saying you can't use the information/photos, only that you must get it from the USAF Museum Research Division archives.

How do I get an appointment to conduct research in the archives? See the Research Division web page.

 

3. Permission to link to the USAF Museum web site is granted; however, DO NOT put the link inside a (html) frame on your site. Use a simple link or spawn a new window.

4. For site management, information is collected for statistical purposes. This government computer system uses software programs to create summary statistics, which are used for such purposes as assessing what information is of most and least interest, determining technical design specifications, and identifying system performance or problem areas. Raw data logs are used to generate summary statistics; however, these logs are not used directly (and are unavailable to the USAF Museum web team). Summary statistics are: Total hits, Total hits by hour, Total hits by date, Total hits by page, Total hits by top level domain (.com, .org, .mil, etc.) and total hits inside and outside of the Wright-Patterson AFB domain (wpafb.af.mil).

5. For site security purposes and to ensure that this service remains available to all users, this government computer system employs software programs to monitor network traffic to identify unauthorized attempts to upload or change information, or otherwise cause damage.

6. Raw data logs will only be used to identify individual users and their usage habits for authorized law enforcement investigations or national security purposes. These logs are scheduled for regular destruction in accordance with National Archives and Records Administration General Schedule 20.

7. Unauthorized attempts to deny service, upload information, change information, or to attempt to access a non-public site from this service are strictly prohibited and may be punishable under Title 18 of the U.S. Code to include the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986 and the National Information Infrastructure Protection Act.

8. If you have any questions or comments about the information presented here, please forward them to
Pat Champ
USAF Museum Webmaster (Volunteer).

USAF Museum

 



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another good url(link) the national air and space museum,smithsonian collection

http://www.nasm.si.edu/nasmcoll/aircraft/aircraft.html


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Aircraft on Display in the
National Air and Space Musuem
(Listed alphabetically by manufacturer).

*Note: some galleries may be temporarily closed for renovation. 
Please check the individual gallery pages for the most current status.
See the Museum Renovation page for future closings.

-A-
Albatros D.Va - Gallery 206, Legend, Memory and the Great War in the Air (WWI Aviation)

-B-
Beechcraft Cl7L Staggerwing - Gallery 105, Golden Age of Flight
Beechcraft King Air Model 90 - Gallery 104, Business Wings
Bell X-1 "Glamorous Glennis" - Gallery 100, Milestones of Flight
Bell XP-59A Airacomet - Gallery 100, Milestones of Flight
Bleriot XI - Gallery 107, Early Flight
Boeing F4B-4 - Gallery 203, Sea-Air Operations
Boeing 274D (United Airlines) - Gallery 102, Air Transportation
Breitling Orbiter 3 Gondola - Gallery 100, Milestones of Flight

-C-
Cessna 150 - Gallery 109, How Things Fly
Cessna Citation 500 - Gallery 104, Business Wings
Curtiss D Headless Pusher - Gallery 107, Early Flight
Curtiss J-l Robin "Ole Miss" - Gallery 105, Golden Age of Flight
Curtiss R3C-2 Racer - Gallery 208, Pioneers of Flight

-D-
De Havilland DH-4 - Gallery 110, Looking at Earth
Douglas A4D-2N (A-4C) Skyhawk - Gallery 203, Sea-Air Operations
Douglas D-558-2 - Above East Escalators, 2nd floor (Milestones of Flight)
Douglas DC3 (Eastern Airlines) - Gallery 102, Air Transportation
Douglas DC-7 (forward fuselage) - Gallery 102, Air Transportation
Douglas DWC World Cruiser "Chicago" - Gallery 208, Pioneers of Flight
Douglas M-2 Mail Plane - Gallery 102, Air Transportation
Douglas SBD-6 Dauntless - Gallery 203, Sea-Air Operations

-E-
Ecker Flying Boat - Gallery 107, Early Flight
Extra 260 - Gallery 208, Pioneers of Flight

-F-
Fairchild FC-2 (Panagra) - Gallery 102, Air Transportation
Fokker D.VII - Gallery 206, Legend, Memory and the Great War in the Air (WWI Aviation)
Fokker T-2 - Gallery 208, Pioneers of Flight
Ford 5-AT Tri-Motor - Gallery 102, Air Transportation
French observation balloon basket - Gallery 206, Legend, Memory and the Great War in the Air (WWI Aviation)

-G-
Gallaudet Hydro-Bike - Gallery 107, Early Flight
Grumman F4F-4 (FM-1) Wildcat - Gallery 203, Sea-Air Operations
Grumman G-21 Goose - Gallery 102, Air Transportation
Grumman X-29 - Gallery 213, Beyond the Limits

-H-
Hughes H-1 Racer - Gallery 105, Golden Age of Flight

-L-
Langley Aerodrome No. 5 (unmanned) - soon to be in Gallery 107, Early Flight
Lilienthal l894 Glider - Gallery 107, Early Flight
Lockheed F-104A Starfighter - , Above West Escalators, 2nd floor
Lockheed 8 Sirius (Lindbergh) - Gallery 208, Pioneers of Flight
Lockheed 5 Vega (Earhart) - Gallery 208, Pioneers of Flight
Lockheed U-2C - Gallery 110, Looking at Earth
Lockheed XP-80 Shooting Star - Gallery 106, Jet Aviation

-M-
Macchi MC 202 Folgore - Gallery 205, World War II Aviation
MacCready "Gossamer Condor" - Gallery 208, Pioneers of Flight
Martin B-26B Marauder "Flak Bait" (nose) - Gallery 205, World War II Aviation
Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-6 Gustav - Gallery 205, World War II Aviation
Messerschmitt Me 262A Schwalbe - Gallery 106, Jet Aviation
McDonnell FH-1 Phantom I - Gallery 106, Jet Aviation
Mitsubishi A6M5 Zero - Gallery 205, World War II Aviation

-N-
North American P-5lD Mustang - Gallery 205, World War II Aviation
North American X-15A-1 - Gallery 100, Milestones of Flight
Northrop Alpha (TWA) - Gallery 102, Air Transportation
Northrop Gamma "Polar Star" - Gallery 105, Golden Age of Flight
Northrop M2-F3 Lifting Body - Gallery 114, Space Race

-P-
Pfalz D.XII - Gallery 206, Legend, Memory and the Great War in the Air (WWI Aviation)
Pitcairn PA-5 Mailwing - Gallery 102, Air Transportation

-R-
Rockwell HiMAT - Gallery 213, Beyond the Limits
Royal Aircraft Factory F.E.8 (replica) - Gallery 206, Legend, Memory and the Great War in the Air (WWI Aviation)
Ryan NYP "Spirit of St. Louis" - Gallery 100, Milestones of Flight

-S-
Sopwith 7F.1 Snipe - Gallery 206, Legend, Memory and the Great War in the Air (WWI Aviation)
SPAD XIII: "Smith IV" - Gallery 206, Legend, Memory and the Great War in the Air (WWI Aviation)
Supermarine Spitfire Mk. VII - Gallery 205, World War II Aviation

-V-
Voisin VIII LA.P - Gallery 206, Legend, Memory and the Great War in the Air (WWI Aviation)
Voyager - Gallery 108, South Lobby

-W-
Wittman "Buster" - Gallery 105, Golden Age of Flight
Wright 1903 Flyer - Gallery 100, Milestones of Flight
Wright 1909 Military Flyer - Gallery 107, Early Flight

Aircraft || Aircraft on Display (listed by Gallery) || Aircraft of the Smithsonian
NASM Collections



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