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skunk-works-digest     Thursday, September 7 2000     Volume 09 : Number 068



     Index of this digest by subject:
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Con/Chem-Trails, & 'going stealthy'.
Re: Duxford
RE: Duxford
Re: FWD (SK) More Kursk conspiracy
RE: FWD (SK) More Kursk conspiracy
RE: Duxford
Re: Tailgate Party in Rachel, NV(10-28-00)
Re: Clearances, compartments, etc.
Re: Clearances, compartments, etc.
Re: FWD (SK) More Kursk conspiracy
OFF-TOPIC(?): RM-82/84/85/86
FWD (EXT/UASR) Re: Anti Zeppelin systems & Flying triangles in the sky
Re: Panther Piss
News on the F-22 program
Yahoo! News Story - Two Die in France Plane Crash
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Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 18:57:20 EDT
From: SecretJet@aol.com
Subject: Con/Chem-Trails, & 'going stealthy'.

In a message dated 9/1/00 1:28:46 AM GMT Daylight Time, 
owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com writes:

<< >I take the expression "turned on the stealth" to mean that the lights were
 >killed, radar reflecting protuberances removed and the anti-contrail fuel
 >additive turned on.
 
 
 Anyone care to comment on this "anti-contrail" fuel additive?  >>

Oh-oh, I feel the 'Chem-Trailers' closing in!

(& Regarding the Brits "going stealthy", I think it also 
refers to radio/comms security, as well as 'external' items).
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Date: Sun, 03 Sep 100 00:15:40 GMT
From: betnal@ns.net
Subject: Re: Duxford

On 8/29/00 9:36PM, in message <39AC8F37.7B59C3DC@worldnet.att.net>, "Albert H. 
Dobyns" <ahdobyns@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> John Szalay wrote:
> > 
> >   May be old news, But.
> >    According to the newsletter for the Duxford UK air museum .
> > They have announced in the Summer 2000 adition that SR-71 tail number 962
> > which is currently stored at Palmdale, has been allocated to Duxford.
> > The aircraft is disassembled and shipped to England. and they hope to have
> > it on display sometime in Sept . (hopefully for thier airshow  Sept  9-10)
> 
> 
> That's the first I've read about an SR being sent to a
> museum outside the US.  Lucky guys!!
> Al
> 


    Air Forces Monthly also reported the same thing a couple of months back, 
but this is the first confirmation I've heard of from Duxford.  



            Art

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Date: Sun, 03 Sep 100 00:52:22 GMT
From: betnal@ns.net
Subject: RE: Duxford

On 8/30/00 6:55PM, in message 
<3.0.6.32.20000830215526.007bd820@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>, John Szalay 
<john.szalay@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>  One thing I did,nt mention, the article stated that the aircraft had been
> already stripped of all parts that are needed for possible reactivation of
> reserve
> aircraft, such as seats, life support  ETC:
> 
>  
> 

Well, except for the NASA birds, there are no reserve aircraft.  There's also 
no way USAF will ever let this plane enter service again.    



                        Art

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Date: Sun, 03 Sep 100 00:54:47 GMT
From: betnal@ns.net
Subject: Re: FWD (SK) More Kursk conspiracy

Couple of other notes:

    Kursk also was probably armed with rocket-propelled torpedoes which travel 
through the water at up to 200 knots.  In addition, when tehy were finally able 
to hook up with and open the aft hatch of the sub, they found it was totally 
flooded.  This may mean the "tapping" could hgave been another lie put out.  



            Art

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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 19:37:58 +0100
From: "Gavin Payne" <gbpayne@btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: FWD (SK) More Kursk conspiracy

I agree.  This is the country after all who, in front of the world's media,
injected a screaming and protesting mother to get her out of site!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-skunk-works@netwrx1.com
> [mailto:owner-skunk-works@netwrx1.com]On Behalf Of betnal@ns.net
> Sent: 01 January 1601 00:00
> To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com
> Subject: Re: FWD (SK) More Kursk conspiracy
>
>
> Couple of other notes:
>
>     Kursk also was probably armed with rocket-propelled
> torpedoes which travel
> through the water at up to 200 knots.  In addition, when tehy
> were finally able
> to hook up with and open the aft hatch of the sub, they found
> it was totally
> flooded.  This may mean the "tapping" could hgave been
> another lie put out.
>
>
>
>             Art
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 19:38:42 +0100
From: "Gavin Payne" <gbpayne@btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: Duxford

A USAF SR-71 will probably leave the runway the same day Concorde returns to
the skys....:)

> Well, except for the NASA birds, there are no reserve
> aircraft.  There's also
> no way USAF will ever let this plane enter service again.

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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 17:37:49 -0500
From: "Art Adams" <art@acnet.net>
Subject: Re: Tailgate Party in Rachel, NV(10-28-00)

Sounds good to me, I'll see ya'll there.

Art

- ----- Original Message -----
From: C.F.A.3 <CFA3@webtv.net>
To: <ahdobyns@worldnet.att.net>; <buryme2007@prodigy.net>;
<sundance@mountainpeak.com>; <Dale@SecretServices.com>;
<bethland@ix.netcom.com>; <flyboyc@ca.freei.net>; <gsellani@accesscom.com>;
<georgek@netwrx1.com>; <jmcnew@epix.net>; <ARREA-51@webtv.net>;
<topflightpics@aol.com>; <ken@vvcs.com>; <Xelex@aol.com>;
<tailslides.photography@virgin.net>; <SecretJet@aol.com>;
<skunk-works@netwrx1.com>; <steve_hauser@hotmail.com>
Cc: <donaldemory@hotmail.com>; <MAJESTIC22@webtv.net>;
<campbell@ufomind.com>; <tmahood@ibm.net>; <CFA3@webtv.net>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 11:34 PM
Subject: Tailgate Party in Rachel, NV(10-28-00)


> At one point or another, I have had a conversation with you about
> Military Air Craft, Nellis Range and/or Groom Lake. This will be a one
> time e/mail.
>
> So...
>
> On Saturday, Oct. 28th, the AREA 51 RESEARCH CENTER in Rachel, NV., in
> conjuction with the GROOM LAKE AUDUBON SOCIETY*, will be hosting a
> little get together. We're calling it, for lack of a better name:
>
> THE AREA 51 / RED FLAG -- FAN APPRECIATION DAY--WEENIE
> ROAST/BBQ/TAILGATE PARTY & B.S. SESSION.
>
>    Don Emory and I have talked about inviting a bunch of the "like
> minded" out for a "gathering", for over a year. Both of us get all kinds
> of requests like this. So, here it is.
>    RED FLAG will be in full swing during the week, so there is a chance
> that some of us will be there, anyways. For those that do, we can talk
> about camping together. (We'll talk.) Don will be contacting Nellis, to
> let them know, too. It might be nice to have visitors from the
> excercise. (We'll cook 'em a hot dog, or something.)
>    Bring photos, scrap books, tall tales, ...whatever. NO BULL HORNS OR
> SOAP BOXES ALLOWED!
>
> Go to www.area51researchcenter.com for updates.
>
> Tell a friend (not the enemies of)
> Contact me if need be.
>
> Best to you all
> C3(Imperial Leader of GLAS)
>
> http://community.webtv.net/CFA3/GroomLakeAudubon
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 18:01:54 -0500
From: "Art Adams" <art@acnet.net>
Subject: Re: Clearances, compartments, etc.

The 4 Qs that you see in the preamble of message traffic mean "flash
override"

QQQQ

That's not a clearance designation.

Art



- ----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Thomson <thomsona@flash.net>
To: Skunk Works <skunk-works@netwrx1.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 2:16 PM
Subject: Clearances, compartments, etc.


> Al wondered and guessed,
>
> >  ps: if I had gone through the whole interview process with the CIA, I
> wonder what sort of > clearance I would have had. I guess ones like "L"
and
> "Q" were associated with AEC
> > (old) and DOE gov't agencies.
>
> Nope, a blue CIA staff badge just gets you plain old TS.  In the
Directorate
> of Intelligence, which works day to day with SIGINT and satellite pix, the
> common clearance level adds SI/TK/G (denoted by an "H" on the badge).
>
> And, of course, there is a large variety of clearances associated with
other
> channels, compartments, subcompartments, levels, etc. scattered here and
> there in various places around the Agency.  Many of them, such as Q
> clearances, are granted by other government entities.
>
> Such compartmentation can get in the way of getting the job done, as one
> might imagine: see http://archives.his.com/intelforum/msg02009.html
>
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 21:47:08 -0700
From: "Terry W. Colvin" <fortean1@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Clearances, compartments, etc.

The "QQQQ" designates end of security clearance and caveat(s).  It is used
in back-channel or DSSCS (Defense Special Secure Communication System) record
networks.

Levels of precedence:
W = CRITIC (NSA)
Y = Emergency Command Precedence (nuclear alert)
Z = Flash
O = Immediate
P = Priority
R = Routine

Flash override is limited to telephone MLPP (Multi-Level Precedence and
Pre-emption).

Terry

- -----
Art Adams wrote:
> 
> The 4 Qs that you see in the preamble of message traffic mean "flash
> override"
> 
> QQQQ
> 
> That's not a clearance designation.
> 
> Art
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Allen Thomson <thomsona@flash.net>
> To: Skunk Works <skunk-works@netwrx1.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 2:16 PM
> Subject: Clearances, compartments, etc.
> 
> > Al wondered and guessed,
> >
> > >  ps: if I had gone through the whole interview process with the CIA, I
> > wonder what sort of > clearance I would have had. I guess ones like "L"
> and
> > "Q" were associated with AEC
> > > (old) and DOE gov't agencies.
> >
> > Nope, a blue CIA staff badge just gets you plain old TS.  In the
> Directorate
> > of Intelligence, which works day to day with SIGINT and satellite pix, the
> > common clearance level adds SI/TK/G (denoted by an "H" on the badge).
> >
> > And, of course, there is a large variety of clearances associated with
> other
> > channels, compartments, subcompartments, levels, etc. scattered here and
> > there in various places around the Agency.  Many of them, such as Q
> > clearances, are granted by other government entities.
> >
> > Such compartmentation can get in the way of getting the job done, as one
> > might imagine: see http://archives.his.com/intelforum/msg02009.html
> >
> >
> >
> >

- -- 
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     Alternate: < terry_colvin@hotmail.com >
Home Page: < http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Stargate/8958/index.html >
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- ------------
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   TLCB Web Site: < http://www.tlc-brotherhood.org >[Allies, CIA/NSA,
                  and Vietnam veterans welcome]
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Vietnam - Theater Telecommunications Center/HHC, 1st Aviation Brigade
   (Jan 71 - Aug 72)
Thailand/Laos
 - Telecommunications Center/U.S. Army Support Thailand
   (USARSUPTHAI), Camp Samae San (Jan 73 - Aug 73)
 - Special Security/Strategic Communications - Thailand
   (STRATCOM - Thailand), Phu Mu (Pig Mountain) Signal Site
   (Aug 73 - Jan 74)

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Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 22:32:46 -0700
From: "T.Toth" <ttoth@primus.ca>
Subject: Re: FWD (SK) More Kursk conspiracy

Just think for a moment, of what you thought would happen when the tragedy
happened. I bet you thought Russian officials where going to have to pay for
this, right.
Funny how not so long ago it was still admitted that there would have been
enough air until the 14th which is also the date that some Russian officials
say was the last time they had communication with the crew. (off course this
would have meant immediate Western assistance could have saved some of the
crew). Now notice how slowly the Russian official version seems to be sliding
inexorably towards, "everyone died in minutes" and "no one, not even the West
could have saved them". And of course one ha to rememeber that it is the west
who is responsible for the killing of the crew, some versions will say it was a
US or British sub, other versions simply state that it is the west who have
stolen and ripped apart Russia* so much that the Russian military have to put
their lives at risk working in dreadful conditions.
Next thing you'll know, the west will have to pay to raise the sub, because of
the risk of leakage. And the Russian leaderhip may even go so far as to create
some sort of official accusation stating that something is very fishy (no pun
intended) because the US or the British do not want to admit that one of their
subs was damaged, and that Russian military experts are not allowed to examine
those subs to see if there are any proof of a collision.
Only time will tell I guess, but one thing is certain there is definitely an
intense political game being played, and a few careers are at risk, and in the
eye of most of those guys I'm sure that's worth a little manipulation, and a
few revised official versions, including the results of the 'investigations'
being made.
*allusion to supposed US, British and Turkish assistance to Chechnya I guess.
Timothy

Gavin Payne wrote:

> I agree.  This is the country after all who, in front of the world's media,
> injected a screaming and protesting mother to get her out of site!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-skunk-works@netwrx1.com
> > [mailto:owner-skunk-works@netwrx1.com]On Behalf Of betnal@ns.net
> > Sent: 01 January 1601 00:00
> > To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com
> > Subject: Re: FWD (SK) More Kursk conspiracy
> >
> >
> > Couple of other notes:
> >
> >     Kursk also was probably armed with rocket-propelled
> > torpedoes which travel
> > through the water at up to 200 knots.  In addition, when tehy
> > were finally able
> > to hook up with and open the aft hatch of the sub, they found
> > it was totally
> > flooded.  This may mean the "tapping" could hgave been
> > another lie put out.
> >
> >
> >
> >             Art
> >
> >
> >

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Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 22:16:18 +0200
From: Andreas Parsch <aparsch@gmx.net>
Subject: OFF-TOPIC(?): RM-82/84/85/86

Hello all,

in the late 50's/early 60's, the USAF used research missiles, designated
XRM-82, XRM-84, XRM-85 and XRM-86, respectively. Does anyone know any
details (manufacturer, names, specifications, etc.) about these
vehicles?
Any information is much appreciated :-)!

.. and maybe one of the missile was from LMSC - then my question would
at least be not _completely_ off topic ;-)

Thanks

Andreas

- -- 
US Military Aviation Designation Systems
http://www.andreas-parsch.online.de

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Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 16:48:20 -0700
From: "Terry W. Colvin" <fortean1@frontiernet.net>
Subject: FWD (EXT/UASR) Re: Anti Zeppelin systems & Flying triangles in the sky

At 05:58 PM 7/23/2000 -0400, you wrote: "Terry W. Colvin" wrote:
> > "S.J. Van Sickle" wrote:
> > > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, John Clark wrote:
> > > Actually I think ICBM's are an obsolete means of delivering a warhead,
> > > it's like spending a lot of money on a anti Zeppelin system, except that 
> > > system would work.
> > >
> > > Zeppelin bombardment is only obsolete *because* of the development of
> > > anti-Zeppelin systems (i.e. machine guns, AA guns, fixed wing aircraft).
> > > The Air Force would *love* a bomber with the capacity and loiter ability
> > > of a Zeppelin.
> > >
> > > steve
> >
> > Bingo.  A "Stealth Blimp" is under development.
>
>A stealth blimp is not that hard to do if all of your bag and structure
>is polymer based, all you have really to worry about are the engines,
>which can be fitted in faceted housings. The problem with blimps is
>speed. 120 mph is fast for a blimp, but of no use for a long range
>plane, as its just too easy to spot visually, and shoot down.

You could possibly go for a high altitude vehicle like this, it would be 
damn near radar transparent with only few modifications, and could be used 
for things like high altitude bombings (like the B-52s did in SE Asia), and 
at high enough altitudes would be invisible to the eye at night. could also 
double as a recon craft before or after the drop, due to it's increased 
loiter ability. Would definitely not be a ship you would want to be in if 
you were spotted though.

Gryphin

- --------------

Terry wrote (or rather, forwarded):

>Although questioned by some, the Belgian 'Flying Triangle' wave of 1989 is
>still highly revered in the canon of ufology.

Oh good, Belgium is still on the UFO-map :-)

<skipping details of sightings>

>The "Black Triangle" sights have been documented for years now, all over
>the world.  Could such an advanced earthbound technology have existed
>undisclosed for so long?  There are plenty of suspects: HALO, the
>Aurora, the TR3, the "Stealth Blimp:, but if this was a military test
>flight, why risk exposure by flying brightly-lit aircraft over
>well-populated areas?  We'd be naive to expect answers any time soon.

Well, that's what puzzled me at the time and it still does. If these 
aircraft were earthbound, it means that "they" (whoever they are) were 
testing these aircraft over Belgian airspace without authorisation (thus 
violating our airspace)
Maybe the main idea was to get people used to them? Get Europeans to see 
them first since some European governments don't mind admitting that 
something ET could very well be out there and visit us? (Of course, if they 
were ET, it makes sense they visited Belgium first, we're known all over 
the Universe for our great chocolates :-)
Still, I suspect those triangles not to be ET at all, but that's a personal 
impression. Handy for those conducting experiments to have everyone 
thinking their experimental craft are ET, that way they (whoever they are) 
don't have to answer questions, right?
If the main powers on Earth didn't know whose craft they were, wouldn't 
there be a huge search for the things? Roundish UFOs have been seen for 
centuries, so governments world-wide probably classify any such reports as 
concerning ET craft (or imagination, or natural, mis-identified phenomena) 
but shouldn't they worry if unknown craft of entirely different shapes 
start showing up? They could be "the enemy" (whoever that is nowadays - is 
there one?) so if the governments are not investigating, it means they know 
darned well just whose craft they are.

CU

Lieve

- -- 
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     Alternate: < terry_colvin@hotmail.com >
Home Page: < http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Stargate/8958/index.html >
Sites: Fortean Times * Northwest Mysteries * Mystic's Cyberpage *
   TLCB * U.S. Message Text Formatting (USMTF) Program
- ------------
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   TLCB Web Site: < http://www.tlc-brotherhood.org >[Allies, CIA/NSA,
                  and Vietnam veterans welcome]
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Vietnam - Theater Telecommunications Center/HHC, 1st Aviation Brigade
   (Jan 71 - Aug 72)
Thailand/Laos
 - Telecommunications Center/U.S. Army Support Thailand
   (USARSUPTHAI), Camp Samae San (Jan 73 - Aug 73)
 - Special Security/Strategic Communications - Thailand
   (STRATCOM - Thailand), Phu Mu (Pig Mountain) Signal Site
   (Aug 73 - Jan 74)

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Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:42:56 -0700
From: Dan Zinngrabe <quellish@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Panther Piss

>Hey guys,
>
>You might track down a copy of my book on the B-2 and find the answer to your
>"PP" in there. I don't have a copy handy, otherwise I'd provide the data on
>acid injection/contrail formation, myself. Additionally, are you all aware of
>the environmental menace that has appeared out of nowhere in the atmosphere
>(in concert with the operational debut of the B-2)? There was a piece in
>several of the local newspapers about a mysterious chemical combo that has
>only recently been discovered...and that remains unexplained. There are
>serious concerns about its impact on the environment. It's much more
>insidious than ozone.
>
>Cheers, Jay Miller

Yup, the Block 30 B-2 upgrade program contains an item labelled 
"contrail management system". You can see some mention of it here:
<http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/useftp.cgi?IPaddress=162.140.64.21&filename=ns95164.txt&directory=/diskb/wais/data/gao>
GAO has a bunch of other B-2 related documents that mention the CMS, 
but nothing with much detail. Northrop has a patent on the LIDAR 
system used in the CMS, but I haven't found it yet on the IBM patents 
site.

Dan


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Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 17:06:02 GMT
From: "wayne binkley" <wbinkley@hotmail.com>
Subject: News on the F-22 program

- ----Original Message Follows----
From: webmaster@lmasc.com
Reply-To: webmaster@lmasc.com
To: news@lmasc.com
Subject: News on the F-22 program
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:52:55 -0500 (CDT)

Attached is a news update on the F-22 program. If you no longer wish to 
receive these updates, please contact webmaster@lmasc.com.

F-22 completes milestone ahead of schedule

EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. (AFPN) (August 28, 2000)  - The F-22 Raptor 
completed another major Defense Acquisition Board milestone approximately 
three weeks ahead of schedule, according to F-22 Combined Test Force 
officials here.

The milestone, which required the F-22 to perform flight maneuvers at high 
angles of attack with its weapons bay doors open, was the third of nine 
flight test milestones completed this year, said Mike Cabiness, site 
manager, F-22 CTF, Edwards Air Force Base, Calif.

The test, officially titled as "Initiate High AoA with Weapons Bay Doors 
Open," required the Raptor to fly with its center weapons bay doors open and 
conduct extensive maneuvering flight and with a high angle of attack, or 
nose up attitude, Cabiness said.

"The purpose was to evaluate the weapons bay doors ability to withstand 
significant changes in pressure gradients generated by the airflow as it 
passes by the plane's fuselage," he explained.

According to test engineers at the F-22 testing facility, the aircraft 
passed its milestone "with flying colors."

F-22 test pilot Jon Beesley, who flew Raptor 4002 during the test, concurs.

"The F-22 was very predictable while flying at low air speeds at such a high 
angle of attack," he said. "If any problems existed [with the design of the 
weapons bay doors], flying at such a profile should have aggravated them 
however, there was no noticeable difference from normal flight.

"This airplane does what pilots want it to do, when they want to do it," 
Beesley said. "The engineers have worked hard to make the aircraft fly well 
and they have succeeded. What is even more impressive is that it can fly at 
such a high angle of attack and still remain a stealthy aircraft."

The specific maneuvers done by Beesley included 360-degree rolls and 
full-pedal slipslides, where the pedals, or rudder controls, are pushed to 
the full extent of their control travel, CTF officials said. The tests were 
accomplished at 35,000 feet and at varying airspeeds.

While the specific details of the test profile remain sensitive, the 
aircraft's performance continued to exceed capabilities of all other fighter 
aircraft currently in use.

"The Raptor was able to easily fly at an AoA that would cause any other 
aircraft to depart from controlled flight into a stall or spin," Beesley 
said.

The "F-22 continues to perform outstandingly in all tests and it remains 
unsurpassed in both its handling and flight performance," he said. "It is 
easily the most maneuverable fighter ever built."

Edwards is currently testing three F-22s. Since the start of testing, a 
little over two years ago, the F-22 program has flown over 690 hours and 
completed over 8,000 flight test points, or evaluation items, and over 2,500 
maintenance or logistics test points.

The F-22 test team has completed several major flight test milestones, and 
all have been accomplished ahead of schedule, Cabiness said.

"As an example of applied aerodynamics in action, the F-22 test program 
remains, based on historical data, the single most efficient flight-test 
program in Edwards' history," he said. "The test team has seen continued 
successes in its ability to fine tune Raptor performance, expand the 
aircraft's flight envelope and discover areas to enhance structural 
capabilities."

"All flight test tasks are essential to helping the F-22 reach its ultimate 
goal of being "the air superiority fighter" of the 21st Century," he said.

The other milestones completed this year include the first flight of Raptor 
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