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skunk-works-digest    Wednesday, December 20 2000    Volume 09 : Number 086



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Info: Second X35 Flies (X35c)
Re: Aurora
ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE: OFF TOPIC POSTS - PLEASE READ & FOLLOW
display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and Florida.
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Re: D-21 question
RE: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and Flo rida.
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 18:46:05 EST
From: SecretJet@aol.com
Subject: Info: Second X35 Flies (X35c)

Seasons Greetings!

This news just in from Mil-Spotters list (UK)

  EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. (December 16, 2000 8:32 p.m. EST
  http://www.nandotimes.com) - A Lockheed Martin test pilot took the first
  flight Saturday in the company's latest entry into the military's
  multibillion-dollar fighter jet competition.
  
  The defense giant is competing with Boeing to produce a Joint Strike
  Fighter, which would be used by the Air Force, Navy, Marines and Britain's
  Royal Air Force and Navy.
  
  The winner of the contract, expected to be worth $200 billion, is to be
  chosen next year.
  
  Lockheed Martin's X-35C, designed specifically for naval aircraft carrier
  operations, made a 27-minute flight from Palmdale, Calif., to Edwards Air
  Force Base, where it will undergo further flight testing, said Joe Sweeney,
  the test pilot.
  
  "It went very smoothly, very similar to the simulations," Sweeney said. But
  he said testing wasn't completed "because of some give-and-take between the
  airplane and the control room" as data from the flight was examined.
  
  The X-35C was the second Lockheed Martin Joint Strike Fighter demonstrator
  to fly. The company's X-35A began flying in October and completed its test
  program on Nov. 22. >>
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 20:17:01 -0800 (PST)
From: CFA3@webtv.net (C.F.A.3)
Subject: Re: Aurora

>Hello Skunk Works members, I was in the IRC
>chatting with SecretJet in channel
>#skunk-works and he suggested me that I
>should let all you know of a weird >phenomenon
>that I observed in my summer vacation. It was
>the night of August 16th 2000 (I am 90% sure
>this was the exact day) and I was in Las >Vegas,
>Nevada. Me and a lot of people in Las Vegas
>observed a strange weather phenomenon
>above Area 51 (which is located a couple of
>miles north of Las Vegas). The weather
>phenomenon looks like aurora (the weather
>phenomenon that usually is observed in North
>and South Pole, not the secret aircraft) with
>different red, green, yellow, and blue brilliant
>colors. A lot of people in Las Vegas requested
>he information in the radio about the
>phenomenon but they only know that it is
>happening above Area 51. I don't know >exactly
>the duration of the phenomenon, but it was all
>gone 10 minutes after my initial observation...
>all dark after that. Any comments? Could be a
>new radar system to detect stealth
>aircraft/missiles? Thanks in advances. 
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>=A0=A0=A0=A0May the Force be with you 
>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
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>=A0=A0=A0=A0Wei-Jen Su 
>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
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>=A0=A0=A0=A0E-mail: wsu@its.caltech.edu

I'm going to agree that what you likely saw was a missile launch. I'm
even going to hazard a guess at what missile. I could do the research,
and get a date, but your discription sounds exactly like the event I
witnessed this past summer. Vandenburg launched the third test fire, of
the anti-ballistic missile system. I vividly remember listening to the
live coverage on KFWB radio, (9pm?) and looking to the general direction
of Vandenburg, (myself at LAX.) The test missle rocket plume created a
spectacular multi-colored, cloud of light, as the upper stages glowed in
the upper atmosphere. The higher the rocket went, the bigger the
display. This was all created by the rocket glowing down into the lower
atmosphere from above, as opposed to the setting sun shining through a
contrail.

Cool event, to bad the missile test failed.

C3

http://community.webtv.net/CFA3/GroomLakeAudubon

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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:44:08 -0600
From: George R. Kasica <georgek@netwrx1.com>
Subject: ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE: OFF TOPIC POSTS - PLEASE READ & FOLLOW

Must be the season again....I was hoping to stay out of
this........BUT...since its continuing I'll put on my ListOwner
hat....now where'd I put the blasted thing again....OK....got it....


LISTEN UP....ANY MORE *UFO* Posts or similar, you know what I'm
talking about, we don't need endless bandwidth wasting debate on this,
will result in the address getting removed from the list. Period. 

'Nuff said,

George


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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 18:33:31 
From: "wayne binkley" <wbinkley@hotmail.com>
Subject: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and Florida.

On 16 Dec 00, at 13:45, Wei-Jen Su wrote:
>The weather phenomenon looks like aurora (the weather
>phenomenon that usually is observed in North and South Pole, not the
>secret aircraft) with different red, green, yellow, and blue 
>brilliant>colors

for some info on this go to the URL at the bottom of this article to get the 
full story.
wayne




April 25, 2000 -- Two weeks ago stargazers around the world were outdoors in 
force. The moon, Jupiter, Saturn and Mars were clustered together in the 
evening sky on April 6 for a picturesque display just after sunset. With 
cameras poised to record the spectacle, observers were treated to a dazzling 
show -- but it wasn't the show they expected! The sky, instead of darkening 
as the sun sank below the western horizon, turned vivid red, then green and 
shimmering yellow. It was a rare and unexpected display of aurora borealis 
seen as far south as Texas and Florida.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2000/ast25apr%5F1m.htm

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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:53:34 -0500
From: John Szalay <john.szalay@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and Florida.

At 06:33 PM 12/18/00, you wrote:
>
>
>On 16 Dec 00, at 13:45, Wei-Jen Su wrote:
>>The weather phenomenon looks like aurora (the weather
>>phenomenon that usually is observed in North and South Pole, not the
>>secret aircraft) with different red, green, yellow, and blue 
>>brilliant>colors
>
>for some info on this go to the URL at the bottom of this article to get the 
>full story.
>wayne
>April 25, 2000 -- Two weeks ago stargazers around the world were outdoors in 
>force. The moon, Jupiter, Saturn and Mars were clustered together in the 
>evening sky on April 6 for a picturesque display just after sunset.


 I checked the Aurora reports archives and the LAST warning/alert/report
 as far south as Vegas was June 7th and these warnings normaly are good for
3 days at the most. the only other was a warning for May 11.
So we can pretty much rule out natural causes.

 http://www.spacew.com/www/lowlatwchrpt.html
 http://www.spacew.com/www/lowlatwrnrpt.html

I have NOT checked the NOTAM's for that area yet, for that time period
and those would be required to be sent out for a rocket launch..
But FWIW: I would put more faith in a rocket. with a Barium cloud load..

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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:29:52 -0600
From: "Albert H. Dobyns" <ahdobyns@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: D-21 question

Erik Hoel wrote:
> 
> Yesterday I was helping my kid put together an SR-71 model and found that it
> contained a D-21 and a mating pylon (pretty cool freebee). In any event, I
> was surprised by the amount of reverse (?) dihedral in the D-21. Can someone
> explain why this is done in educated layman's terms.
> 
> Another observation - I was also a little surprised by the vertical offset
> that the centerline of the engines has with respect to the fuselage. I am
> assuming that the engine centerline follows the path of travel; this then
> would give the SR-71 a decidedly nose-high cruise attitude (2-4 degrees?).
> Why is this done? It reminded me of some commercial airliners that seem to
> cruise with the nose very slightly elevated.
> 
> Erik

Have you received any feedback on this yet?  I haven't seen
any posts related to it.  I'm not sure about the way the D-21
wings are angled downward but I'm assuming it has something 
to do with increasing the stability of the D-21 after it is
launched.  The F-104 had wings with a few degrees of negative
dihedral (may also be called anhedral I think).  Since it
worked for the F-104, I guess it useful for the D-21.
(a little sarcasm in the last sentence).

The Skunk Works engineers discovered that the pilots had to
set the elevon trim to a value that although making the SR
fly level it also caused an increase in drag.  The solution
was to modify the fuselage to have the part of the fuselage
just ahead of wing's attachments to raise it by 2 degrees.
This change made it unnecessary to trim the plane the way
they did in the flight testing program.  I've always thought
it looked a little odd but considering Kelly Johnson's
incredible expertise in designing airplanes, I sure wouldn't
want to argue against him! :-)

I believe some of the Blackbird books I have described it
something like Kelly looked at it and told the assemblers
to stick a wedge in there and make it tilt the front end
up by 2 degrees.  My memory has been known to play tricks
on me and mix some info together that don't belong together,
but I hope I'm close enough on this one.
Al

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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:44:16 -0800
From: Erik Hoel <ehoel@esri.com>
Subject: RE: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and Flo rida.

John Szalay wrote in part:

> I have NOT checked the NOTAM's for that area yet, for that time period
> and those would be required to be sent out for a rocket launch..
> But FWIW: I would put more faith in a rocket. with a Barium 
> cloud load..

Two easy questions:

1. What are NOTAM's?
2. What is a Barium cloud load?

Erik

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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:35:37 
From: "wayne binkley" <wbinkley@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and Florida.

i wasn't trying to prove anything, just offering some info.i very seldom 
rule anything out and keep an open mind.
wayne.

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From: John Szalay <john.szalay@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com
To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com
Subject: Re: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and  
Florida.
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:53:34 -0500

At 06:33 PM 12/18/00, you wrote:
 >
 >
 >On 16 Dec 00, at 13:45, Wei-Jen Su wrote:
 >>The weather phenomenon looks like aurora (the weather
 >>phenomenon that usually is observed in North and South Pole, not the
 >>secret aircraft) with different red, green, yellow, and blue
 >>brilliant>colors
 >
 >for some info on this go to the URL at the bottom of this article to get 
the
 >full story.
 >wayne
 >April 25, 2000 -- Two weeks ago stargazers around the world were outdoors 
in
 >force. The moon, Jupiter, Saturn and Mars were clustered together in the
 >evening sky on April 6 for a picturesque display just after sunset.


  I checked the Aurora reports archives and the LAST warning/alert/report
  as far south as Vegas was June 7th and these warnings normaly are good for
3 days at the most. the only other was a warning for May 11.
So we can pretty much rule out natural causes.

  http://www.spacew.com/www/lowlatwchrpt.html
  http://www.spacew.com/www/lowlatwrnrpt.html

I have NOT checked the NOTAM's for that area yet, for that time period
and those would be required to be sent out for a rocket launch..
But FWIW: I would put more faith in a rocket. with a Barium cloud load..






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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:44:58 -0500
From: John Szalay <john.szalay@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and Florida.

At 08:44 AM 12/19/00 -0800, you wrote:
>John Szalay wrote in part:
>
>> I have NOT checked the NOTAM's for that area yet, for that time period
>> and those would be required to be sent out for a rocket launch..
>> But FWIW: I would put more faith in a rocket. with a Barium 
>> cloud load..
>
>Two easy questions:
>
>1. What are NOTAM's?
>2. What is a Barium cloud load?
>
>Erik
>
>

NOTAM  =  Notice To Airmen:  Offical notices to flyers concerning special 
                            instructions or announcements of area closings
                            or events that may or could effect the area they
                            may want to fly in or through.

 Barium cloud are releases of Barium or special particals into the air by
rocket
at different altitudes for various measurments.  can be done at any time, but
normaly done at sunset OR at night to produce visible cloads of light.
Rather nice to watch. IF you know when and where.  Most take place at
Wallops island
or White Sands. but are not restricted to just those areas.

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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:51:51 -0500
From: John Szalay <john.szalay@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and Florida.

At 05:35 PM 12/19/00, you wrote:
>i wasn't trying to prove anything, just offering some info.i very seldom 
>rule anything out and keep an open mind.
>wayne.
>
>---

  Not picking nits either,  When He first posted the question, I checked to
see
IF there was a possiblity of it being an aurora, since I'm on the alert
list and
thought I might have missed a notice at that time. its been years since
I've seen
a good show of the northern lights and with the peak of the solar cycle going
on right now, there has been a lot of activity lately. and MANY reports but 
alas whenever there is an alert for our area, its either too cloudy or it
does not
quite reach us. and we've driven a lot of miles trying to see .
its only every 11 years that the sun gets this active...

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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:54:37 -0500
From: "Weigold, Greg" <GregWeigold@mynd.com>
Subject: RE: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and Flo rida.

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There's an alert list for aurora displays?

- -----Original Message-----
From: John Szalay [mailto:john.szalay@postoffice.worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 4:52 PM
To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com
Subject: Re: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and
Florida.


At 05:35 PM 12/19/00, you wrote:
>i wasn't trying to prove anything, just offering some info.i very seldom 
>rule anything out and keep an open mind.
>wayne.
>
>---

  Not picking nits either,  When He first posted the question, I checked to
see
IF there was a possiblity of it being an aurora, since I'm on the alert
list and
thought I might have missed a notice at that time. its been years since
I've seen
a good show of the northern lights and with the peak of the solar cycle
going
on right now, there has been a lot of activity lately. and MANY reports but 
alas whenever there is an alert for our area, its either too cloudy or it
does not
quite reach us. and we've driven a lot of miles trying to see .
its only every 11 years that the sun gets this active...



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either too cloudy or it</FONT>
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:40:34 
From: "wayne binkley" <wbinkley@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and Flo rida.

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From: "Weigold, Greg"
Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com
To: "'skunk-works@netwrx1.com'"
Subject: RE: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and Flo 
rida.
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:54:37 -0500

There's an alert list for aurora displays?
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
for info only, see below.
wayne
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Space Weather News for Dec. 19, 2000http://www.spaceweather.com
METEORS & AURORA: Sky watchers who venture outside to view the Ursid
meteor shower Thursday night or Friday morning might also spot aurora
borealis.  A coronal mass ejection that left the Sun on Monday is likely
to buffet Earth's magnetosphere later this week.  Forecasters estimate a
20% chance of severe geomagnetic activity when the CME arrives.
NEAR-EARTH ASTEROIDS: A newly-discovered near-Earth asteroid, 2000 YA,
will pass just two lunar distances from Earth on Dec. 22nd.  There's no
danger of a collision, say scientists, but the small space rock will be
near enough to see through large amateur telescopes or through small
telescopes equipped with CCD cameras.
For more information, images and animations, please visit
http://www.spaceweather.com
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:55:06 -0500
From: "Weigold, Greg" <GregWeigold@mynd.com>
Subject: RE: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and Flo rida.

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Thanks!!!

Greg 

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From: wayne binkley [mailto:wbinkley@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 11:41 AM
To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com
Subject: RE: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and
Flo rida.





- ----Original Message Follows----
From: "Weigold, Greg"
Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com
To: "'skunk-works@netwrx1.com'"
Subject: RE: display of aurora borealis seen as far south as Texas and Flo 
rida.
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:54:37 -0500

There's an alert list for aurora displays?
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
for info only, see below.
wayne
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Space Weather News for Dec. 19, 2000http://www.spaceweather.com
METEORS & AURORA: Sky watchers who venture outside to view the Ursid
meteor shower Thursday night or Friday morning might also spot aurora
borealis.  A coronal mass ejection that left the Sun on Monday is likely
to buffet Earth's magnetosphere later this week.  Forecasters estimate a
20% chance of severe geomagnetic activity when the CME arrives.
NEAR-EARTH ASTEROIDS: A newly-discovered near-Earth asteroid, 2000 YA,
will pass just two lunar distances from Earth on Dec. 22nd.  There's no
danger of a collision, say scientists, but the small space rock will be
near enough to see through large amateur telescopes or through small
telescopes equipped with CCD cameras.
For more information, images and animations, please visit
http://www.spaceweather.com
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks!!!</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Greg </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: wayne binkley [<A =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 11:41 AM</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Flo rida.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: &quot;Weigold, Greg&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>rida.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:54:37 -0500</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>There's an alert list for aurora displays?</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>for info only, see below.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Space Weather News for Dec. 19, 2000<A =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>METEORS &amp; AURORA: Sky watchers who venture =
outside to view the Ursid</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>meteor shower Thursday night or Friday morning might =
also spot aurora</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>borealis.&nbsp; A coronal mass ejection that left =
the Sun on Monday is likely</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>to buffet Earth's magnetosphere later this =
week.&nbsp; Forecasters estimate a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>20% chance of severe geomagnetic activity when the =
CME arrives.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>NEAR-EARTH ASTEROIDS: A newly-discovered near-Earth =
asteroid, 2000 YA,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>will pass just two lunar distances from Earth on =
Dec. 22nd.&nbsp; There's no</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>danger of a collision, say scientists, but the small =
space rock will be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>near enough to see through large amateur telescopes =
or through small</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>telescopes equipped with CCD cameras.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>For more information, images and animations, please =
visit</FONT>
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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:19:08 -0600
From: "Allen Thomson" <thomsona@flash.net>
Subject: P-59, gorilla.

Just found this on AvWeek's www.aviationnow.com page:

  Bell P-59 Secret Jet Program

  During the Bell P-59 jet aircraft test program
  [early-mid 1940s, http://www.afa.org/magazine/gallery/p-59.html],
  a formation of  P-38 Lightnings on a training mission over the Mojave
Desert was
  overtaken by an Airacomet. The P-38 pilots were puzzled when they saw the
plane
  with  no   propeller.  Stranger still, the  Bell P-59  Airacomet  pilot
was wearing a
  gorilla mask and derby hat and  had a cigar in his mouth.  After a few
seconds, the
  jet pilot  tipped his hat politely and pulled away from the formation.
This was the
  first time that Air Force personnel, except for a select few at the test
base, had
  ever seen a jet-propelled airplane.  The sight of the gorilla wearing a
derby and
  smoking a cigar helped keep the jet a secret.

This has "apocryphal" written all over it, but does anyone here happen to
know
where the story comes from?  Even if, by wild chance, it's true?

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Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:34:40 EST
From: SecretJet@aol.com
Subject: New Mil-Air Triangle Report On Line!

Seasons Greetings!

Please check out our latest Sighting Report, 
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Black-Triangle E-Group HQ.
Near London Heathrow, UK.
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