From: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com (skunk-works-digest) To: skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Subject: skunk-works-digest V10 #22 Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com Sender: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Errors-To: owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Precedence: bulk skunk-works-digest Sunday, June 17 2001 Volume 10 : Number 022 Index of this digest by subject: *************************************************** Re: OT - ANZAC Day Server Upgrades Completed at midnight Monday April 23, 2000 RE: OT - ANZAC Day Global Hawk - UAV SR-71 Lest we forget RE: Interesting video of thrust vectored SU37.... Usenet archive Prototypes.com Re: Prototypes.com Re: Prototypes.com Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:09:28 +0100 Re: Mildenhall show? Off Topic(?) Info: Mildenhall Air Fete 2001 SecretJet Website OT - Whoops! (Was RE: SecretJet Website) OT - Memorial Day Hello??? RE: Hello??? RE: Hello??? Hyper-X Hyper-X (cont.) X-43a Very sad.... Re: X-43A YF-113G info in AW&ST Re: YF-113G Re: YF-113G FYI - Mobile Phones Detect Stealth? Re: FYI - Mobile Phones Detect Stealth? brighter future for JSF, F-22 and B-2 SR-71A-1..... SR-71A-1..... "Dark Eagles" by Curtis Peebles *************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:20:41 -0400 From: "Weigold, Greg" Subject: Re: OT - ANZAC Day This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0CCF3.AA283F5C Content-Type: text/plain Robert R. Weigold, Jr. - Sgt. USA - WW II Alvin W. Outcalt - 1Lt. USMC - WW II & Korea Buster Weigold - USA - WW II William Outcalt - USA - WW I & USCG Res. WW II None were seriously injured during their tenure, all earned Purple Hearts.... and I ask them to tell my kids, every time they get the chance, about what it was like... what they saw, and what they had to do to preserve our freedom, THEIR freedom! Unfortunately my gfather died in 1975, so my kids never knew him - but I tell them the stories as best I can. And to all on this list who have or are currently serving - Thank you!! Greg Weigold - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0CCF3.AA283F5C Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: OT - ANZAC Day

Robert R. Weigold, Jr. -  Sgt. USA = - - WW II
Alvin W. Outcalt  -  1Lt. = USMC - WW II & Korea
Buster Weigold - USA - WW II
William Outcalt - USA - WW = I   &   USCG Res. WW II

None were seriously injured during = their tenure, all earned Purple Hearts....  and I ask them to tell = my kids, every time they get the chance, about what it was like... what = they saw, and what they had to do to preserve our freedom, THEIR = freedom!    Unfortunately my gfather died in 1975, so my = kids never knew him - but I tell them the stories as best I = can.

And to all on this list who have or are = currently serving - Thank you!!

Greg Weigold

- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0CCF3.AA283F5C-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:33:57 -0500 From: George R. Kasica Subject: Server Upgrades Completed at midnight Monday April 23, 2000 Hello: The upgrades to the disk drives was completed without any incident at midnight Monday April 24, 2001. At this time all systems are working normally. Thank you, ===[George R. Kasica]=== +1 262 513 8503 President +1 206 374 6482 FAX Netwrx Consulting Inc. Waukesha, WI USA http://www.netwrx1.com georgek@netwrx1.com ICQ #12862186 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 09:27:46 +1200 From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: RE: OT - ANZAC Day Thanks, Dennis Just back from a dawn Anzac Day service here in Wellington, NZ. Kiwis take the day just as seriously as the Aussies Over 17,000 fatalities to New Zealand servicemen in World War One. That may not seem a lot compared to France, England or even Germany, but the total population of NZ at that time was less than one million. Even the smallest town has a War Memorial with too many names from the 'war to end all wars' "we will remember them" Mike Henderson > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:57:01 -0400 From: "Martin Hurst" Subject: Global Hawk - UAV An unmanned high-altitude spy plane has made aviation history by completing the first non-stop, robotic flight across the Pacific from California to Australia, US defence officials said on Tuesday. The Global Hawk, a jet-powered aircraft, flew from Edwards Air Force Base in California and landed late on Monday at the Royal Australian Air Force base at Edinburgh, in South Australia. Having landed in Australia, it will now take part in combined US and Australian military exercises over the following six weeks. At 8,600 miles over 22 hours translates to a speed of, 390 mi/hr avg speed, and at an altitude of 12.5 mi = 66,000 feet http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1294000/1294014.stm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:20:09 -0700 From: David Lednicer Subject: SR-71 The following quotes are from "SR-71 Revealed; The Inside Story," by Richard H. Graham, Motorbooks, 1996. "The SR-71 was excellent for "stimulating" the enemy's electronic environment. Every time Habus flew in a sensitive area, all kinds of radars and other electronic wizardy were turned on to see if they could find out what was flying so quickly through their airspace. In fact, our missions were generally not ELINT productive unless "they" were looking for us with electronic signals. I recall several missions where we totally surprised "them" and consequently, didn't pick up any significant electronic emissions." "In one regard, the SR-71's high speed worked against it. Because it traveled so fast, it had only a short amount of time to gather ELINT before it was out of range. To "listen" for longer periods of time, we flew what were called "coordinated" sorties. On those sorties, other intelligence gathering assets, usually an RC-135 or EC-135 reconnaissance aircraft, were involved in our mission. At Det 4 the SR-71 also flew "coordinated" sorties with British RAF Nimrod aircraft and the German Atlantiques aircraft collecting ELINT intelligence. We used the SR-71 primarily to stimulate the electronic environment while other assets gathered the ELINT." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:27:20 +0000 From: Robin Hill Subject: Lest we forget On 24/04/01, Dennis Lapcewich (dlapcewich@intira.com) wrote: >On 25 April 1915, soldiers from the combined Australian and New Zealand >military forces (the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps, or ANZACs) were >ordered to storm the beaches at Suvla Bay, Turkey. Better known as >Gallipoli, this decision by their British commanders (who remained offshore >as typical of British military commanders of the day who regularly ordered >their colonies' men to battle while British soldiers were kept out of harms >way), would result in the greatest military defeat in Australian history. To be fair, the Allied military commanders ordered a lot of native British troops to their deaths on the battlefields of Flanders, trying to employ the tactics of Waterloo against an army that had artillery, barbed wire and machine guns, hence the appellation "Lions led by donkeys". ANZAC does not have a monopoly on sacrifice at the hands of incompetent generals. My grandfather was an artilleryman in the Great War. He was expected to charge into battle with a horse-drawn field gun. My father took part in the D-Day landings and was part of the allied force that liberated the Belsen concentration camp. The nearest I've got to real conflict is being called in to expidite the design of countermeasures installations for aircraft used in the Falklands conflict. I count myself very fortunate in that I haven't (yet) been required to use a weapon directly against another human being in the defence of my, or indeed any other, country. I went to school with a first-generation Polish-English boy who's family had been in the concentration camp that my dad helped liberate. The mother of a neighbouring family is a Kelpie, who came to England after the war with Argentina. While you remember the military casualties that fell at Gallipoli, just spare a thought for all of the casualties of armed conflict, and why it's necessary to oppose everybody who would wage war against others. Robin Hill, BAE SYSTEMS, Brough, East Yorkshire. (who would rather be designing manned space exploration craft than military trainers, but that's another story) ******************************************************************** This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. ******************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:09:46 -0700 From: "T. Toth" Subject: RE: Interesting video of thrust vectored SU37.... I don't think the F-22 will be capable of all those manoeuvres. However I think the difference in superagillity between the two will be limited. The questions are : At what speeds/alt. will the Su-37 have an advantage in agility? The F-22 is said to have `superturn' capability, that is the ability to turn tightly at supersonic speeds. How super-agile do you have to be, especially considering high-off bore sight capable missiles cueable by helmet mounted sights? You want to be able to shoot the other guy down not just amaze him so much that he'll crash. Is the Su-37 capable of such manoeuvres with weapons load ? The F-22 carries its weapons internally. Timothy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-skunk-works@netwrx1.com [mailto:owner-skunk-works@netwrx1.com]On Behalf Of Todd Madson Sent: April 24, 2001 5:08 AM To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com Subject: Interesting video of thrust vectored SU37.... Hello all: I found an interesting video at the Art Bell website of all things of the Russian SU37 doing some what I'd say are AMAZING maneuvers. Since I don't know how long he keeps stuff up there I'm hosting it off my OSX box at http://pod.ath.cx/su37.mpg and it's quite the little video. Comments? I've never seen aircraft doing things quite like this - somersaults, etc. Can the F-22 do similar things? It's almost like an aerial ballet. Enjoy. - -Todd ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:49:30 -0500 From: "Allen Thomson" Subject: Usenet archive Google, having assimilated DejaNews, now has a searchable archive of Usenet postings going back to 1995 at http://groups.google.com/ . This may be of some relevance to SW, as, amid the vast flood of gibbberish, one can occasionaly find material relevant to X-planes, the Skunk Works itself, NRO, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 13:08:30 -0500 From: "Allen Thomson" Subject: Prototypes.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0D308.FC305940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tres cool! http://perso.wanadoo.fr/prototypes.com/ - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0D308.FC305940 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Prototypes.com.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Prototypes.com.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://perso.wanadoo.fr/prototypes.com/ [InternetShortcut] URL=http://perso.wanadoo.fr/prototypes.com/ Modified=40970ACE32D3C00175 - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0D308.FC305940-- ------------------------------ Date: 2 May 2001 14:01:48 -0700 From: gregd@habu2.net Subject: Re: Prototypes.com On Wed, 02 May 2001, "Allen Thomson" wrote: > > Tres cool! > > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/prototypes.com/ It looks like most of the Lockheed articles were lifted (albeit translated) directly from Jay Miller's Skunk Works History book. I can't read French but many of the photos (and captions) match Jay's book, and the footnotes (in English) reference 'Miller' numerous times.... Greg Fieser ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 17:06:51 -0400 From: John Szalay Subject: Re: Prototypes.com At 02:01 PM 5/2/01 -0700, you wrote: >On Wed, 02 May 2001, "Allen Thomson" wrote: > >> >> Tres cool! >> >> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/prototypes.com/ > > It looks like most of the Lockheed articles were lifted (albeit translated) > directly from Jay Miller's Skunk Works History book. I can't read French > but many of the photos (and captions) match Jay's book, and the footnotes > (in English) reference 'Miller' numerous times.... > > Greg Fieser > > > > If you wish to read the article in english, you can use AltaVista's Babelfish translater utility to convert the pages from French to English. http://www.altavista.digital.com and look for the Babelfish label, enter the URL and select French to English works great.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:09:28 +0100 From: "Gavin Payne" Subject: Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:09:28 +0100 At the risk of breaking the silence ;) I'm hopefully off to the air fete at RAF Mildenhall at the end of the month. Two things, is anyone here going who wants to meet, secondly anything to look out for on aircraft, or any probing questions for aircrew? Gavin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:51:26 EDT From: SecretJet@aol.com Subject: Re: Mildenhall show? Greetings from UK! In a message dated 14/05/01 22:11:42 GMT Daylight Time, gbpayne@btinternet.com writes: << I'm hopefully off to the air fete at RAF Mildenhall at the end of the month... is anyone here going who wants to meet >> Sure - See you there! Friday arrivals - near the approach, Saturday show - static early, then over the other side (09-30?) for the flying. Afterwards, try & take some of the static - if the weather holds... Sunday, arrive early with my 8yr old son, get a good place on the fence/crowdline to the Western end, in front of the hangars. Brief sortie round the static/stalls, then sit & watch/photo the display. Pack-up during Red Arrows/finale, quick return to burger stalls (half-price! :-))), & static - then hit the traffic queues. Your call, See you there?! - ------------------------ Regards, Bill Turner, B-T 'Admin'. http://www.secretjet.net Black-Triangle E-Group HQ. Near London Heathrow, UK. http://members.aol.com/BlackTriangles/index.html - ----------------------------------------------------------------- No Door is Closed - To an Open Mind! - ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://members.aol.com/Secretjet/Links.html Black-Triangle Links ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:27:11 EDT From: SecretJet@aol.com Subject: Off Topic(?) Info: Mildenhall Air Fete 2001 Hiya! Interesting site: Air Fete 2001 http://www.mildenhall.af.mil/programme.html - ----------------------------------------- Regards, Bill Turner, B-T 'Admin'. http://www.secretjet.net Black-Triangle E-Group HQ. Near London Heathrow, UK. http://members.aol.com/BlackTriangles/index.html - ----------------------------------------------------------------- No Door is Closed - To an Open Mind! - ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://members.aol.com/Secretjet/Links.html Black-Triangle Links ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:15:07 -0700 From: Dennis Lapcewich Subject: SecretJet Website Just thought I'd mention that I still cannot see most of the graphics on your website. I went to http://members.aol.com/Secretjet/ and attempted to look at http://members.aol.com/Secretjet/BlackTriangleSlatLogoNov26.gif but I get nothing. However, the http://members.aol.com/Secretjet/alienGif.gif does show up. Dennis > -----Original Message----- > From: SecretJet@aol.com [mailto:SecretJet@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:27 PM > To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com > Subject: Off Topic(?) Info: Mildenhall Air Fete 2001 > > > Hiya! > > Interesting site: > Air > Fete 2001 > http://www.mildenhall.af.mil/programme.html > ----------------------------------------- > Regards, > Bill Turner, B-T 'Admin'. > http://www.secretjet.net > Black-Triangle E-Group HQ. > Near London Heathrow, UK. > http://members.aol.com/BlackTriangles/index.html > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > No Door is Closed - To an Open Mind! > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > http://members.aol.com/Secretjet/Links.html > HREF="http://members.aol.com/Secretjet/Links.html">Black-Trian > gle Links > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:22:47 -0700 From: Dennis Lapcewich Subject: OT - Whoops! (Was RE: SecretJet Website) My apologies for my last post. It was meant for the SecretJet webmaster. Also, too, I did mention the word "alien" in that post. It's still early here. :) Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:00:16 -0700 From: Dennis Lapcewich Subject: OT - Memorial Day Just a simple, quick post and a URL for this coming Monday. http://www.remember.gov/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 22:08:59 -0500 From: Todd Madson Subject: Hello??? This digest has been suspiciously dead for a while now....just checking to make sure I'm still on it! - -Todd ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 10:19:50 -0700 From: "T. Toth" Subject: RE: Hello??? It's not dead, it's just they keep using these new stealth posts. :-) T.Toth - -----Original Message----- From: owner-skunk-works@netwrx1.com [mailto:owner-skunk-works@netwrx1.com]On Behalf Of Todd Madson Sent: May 26, 2001 8:09 PM To: skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Subject: Hello??? This digest has been suspiciously dead for a while now....just checking to make sure I'm still on it! - -Todd ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:15:26 +0100 From: "Gavin Payne" Subject: RE: Hello??? Hi I'm here! I spoke to someone from Lockheed Martin on Saturday who is very optimistic that they're going to win the JSF contract, but they would wouldn't they :) He also thinks F-22 production will be on a very very limited basis, even though a plan was released recently to replace the F-15E with F-22s. Gavin > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-skunk-works@netwrx1.com > [mailto:owner-skunk-works@netwrx1.com]On Behalf Of Todd Madson > Sent: 27 May 2001 04:09 > To: skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com > Subject: Hello??? > > > This digest has been suspiciously dead for a while > now....just checking > to make sure I'm still on it! > > -Todd > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:25:41 -0700 From: Erik Hoel Subject: Hyper-X Is this the week that NASA is supposed to test Hyper-X (the X-43)? As I recall, it was supposed to be early June. Erik ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:37:37 -0700 From: Erik Hoel Subject: Hyper-X (cont.) This is certainly poor form on my part, but here is the answer to my previous question regarding when the Hyper-X will fly (apparently tomorrow): http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Projects/hyperx/developments.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 01:00:52 +0100 From: "David" Subject: X-43a I'm sure you'll all join me in offering a little moral support for the team of engineers and scientists on the X-43a project. The loss of the test vehicle due to an anomaly with the Pegasus launcher is a real kick in the teeth to them and to all of us interested in hypersonics. Still, pushing the envelope is what X-planes are designed to do - and sadly, the risk of a system failure goes with the territory. On the positive side, no one was hurt and with high levels of instrumentation on both craft, the reason for the launcher's malfunction will be in the data somewhere. A sad day, but no cause for despondency - here's to the next time ! David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 12:43:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Madson Subject: Very sad.... Bummer: Looks like the Pegasus booster went out of control and they had to destroy it before they could launch the X43-A: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010602/ts/space_plane_dc_1.html - -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:15:08 -0700 From: Larry Smith Subject: Re: X-43A David writes: >I'm sure you'll all join me in offering a little moral support for the team >of engineers and scientists on the X-43a project. The loss of the test >vehicle due to an anomaly with the Pegasus launcher is a real kick in the >teeth to them and to all of us interested in hypersonics. I agree! > >Still, pushing the envelope is what X-planes are designed to do - and sadly, >the risk of a system failure goes with the territory. Absolutely! > >On the positive side, no one was hurt and with high levels of >instrumentation on both craft, the reason for the launcher's malfunction >will be in the data somewhere. > >A sad day, but no cause for despondency - here's to the next time ! I agree!! Go X-43A GO!! Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:03:23 -0700 From: Erik Hoel Subject: YF-113G info in AW&ST In the 5/14 edition of AW&ST, in the Industry Outlook section, it is stated (in a one paragraph article) that the USAFs YF-113G (which has previously been thought to be a 1970s stealth testbed or a MiG-23) was actually a classified prototype. It apparently went from design to first flight in a classified test squadron (circa 1993-96). It is mentioned that the MiGs have used the YF-112 and YF-113 designations (e.g., YF-113B and the YF-113E). Hmmm. Have we discussed this before? Erik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:53:49 +0200 From: Andreas Parsch Subject: Re: YF-113G Hello, "YF-113" has been floating around for some time as a designation for Soviet aircraft in the USA, presumably MIG-23s (with YF-110 being attributed to MiG-21s). Last year in April, AW&ST printed a note, that YF-113G referred to a secret stealth aircraft. This was denied shortly after, stating that the designation did in fact refer to MIG-23s tested by USAF. Now we're told again that it's a secret US aircraft. I wonder when the denial of this statement will come up ... Fact is, the public still doesn't know. Sometimes, "well informed sources" say one thing, sometimes they say another. While it is certain that the USAF did/does indeed use designations in the YF-11x range for secret testing, there is apparently no definite knowledge "in the open" about the actual types behind these numbers. Best wishes Andreas - -- US Military Aviation Designation Systems http://www.designation-systems.net/usmilav/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:15:16 -0400 From: "James P. Stevenson" Subject: Re: YF-113G In a conversation I had with a an Air Force general in charge of the F-117, he said the MiG designations were a continuation of the century series. Thus, the F-110 was the original Air Force designation for the F-4, the F-111 was for the obvious, and then the F-112, 113, etc. were a continuation of the series but applied to the MiGs until you got to the F-117. Jim Stevenson On 6/11/01 4:53 AM, "Andreas Parsch" wrote: > Hello, > > "YF-113" has been floating around for some time as a designation for Soviet > aircraft in the USA, presumably MIG-23s (with YF-110 being attributed to > MiG-21s). Last year in April, AW&ST printed a note, that YF-113G referred to > a secret stealth aircraft. This was denied shortly after, stating that the > designation did in fact refer to MIG-23s tested by USAF. Now we're told > again that it's a secret US aircraft. I wonder when the denial of this > statement will come up ... > > Fact is, the public still doesn't know. Sometimes, "well informed sources" > say one thing, sometimes they say another. While it is certain that the USAF > did/does indeed use designations in the YF-11x range for secret testing, > there is apparently no definite knowledge "in the open" about the actual > types behind these numbers. > > Best wishes > > Andreas - -- Ross & Perry, Inc. Publishers 717 Second St., N.E., Suite 200 Washington, D.C. 20002 Telephone (202) 675-8300 Facsimile (202) 675-8400 JStevenson@RossPerry.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:04:45 -0700 From: Dennis Lapcewich Subject: FYI - Mobile Phones Detect Stealth? Mobile phones may foil stealth bombers America's multi-billion-dollar stealth bombers could be rendered obsolete by a British invention that uses existing mobile telephone masts to detect and track aircraft that were previously invisible to radar. See http://www.smh.com.au/news/0106/12/world/world2.html Stealth aircraft soon to be rendered useless Roke Manor Research, one of the UK's leading research and development companies, has announced that by using one of its sensor technologies in conjunction with mobile phone basestation networks, stealthy aircraft will be rendered useless. See http://www.roke.co.uk/news/stealth_aircraft.htm Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:10:43 -0500 From: "Allen Thomson" Subject: Re: FYI - Mobile Phones Detect Stealth? Dennis Lapcewich noted that, > Mobile phones may foil stealth bombers This seems to have at least a familial resemblance to the LockMart Silent Sentry system and the STARS experiment the Space Battlelab carried out: http://silentsentry.external.lmco.com/proj/nonsecure/sentry/SShome.htm http://www.schriever.af.mil/battlelab/_private/star/star.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:33:23 -0700 From: "T. Toth" Subject: brighter future for JSF, F-22 and B-2 According to a special DoD news briefing on defense transformation by general McCarthy (Ret.); the capabilities of the B-2 will be expanded, the JSF program is to be kept going (with an acceleration of about two years for the delivery of Navy and marine corps version)and the F-22 is to be kept in precision strike and air defence versions. You will find the comments about this in the last (Q&A)section http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jun2001/t06122001_t612tran.html T.Toth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 08:12:59 -0400 From: John Stone Subject: SR-71A-1..... Hello All, Just returned from Blackbird Association reunion, and news is Jim Goodall will be republishing SR-71A-1, with additional 40 recently declassified pages, it'll be $99 again (so hold off on those $500+ eBay auction bids). And he will have a new SR "walk around" book soon, later this year or early next. I saw proof on "walk around" book and it's pretty cool! Later, John - -- John Stone http://www.blackbirds.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:04:09 -0400 From: John Stone Subject: SR-71A-1..... Hello All, Just returned from Blackbird Association reunion, and news is Jim Goodall will be republishing SR-71A-1, with additional 40 recently declassified pages, it'll be $99 again (so hold off on those $500+ eBay auction bids). And he will have a new SR "walk around" book soon, later this year or early next. I saw proof on "walk around" book and it's pretty cool! Later, John - -- John Stone http://www.blackbirds.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 16:19:13 +0100 From: "Gavin Payne" Subject: "Dark Eagles" by Curtis Peebles I've just finished reading Dark Eagles by Curtis Peebles. I thought it was very interesting, although there's no way to prove or disprove some of the things. Any comments? Gavin ------------------------------ End of skunk-works-digest V10 #22 ********************************* To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe in the body of a message to "majordomo@netwrx1.com". 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