From owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Sat Apr 13 13:11:29 2002 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 04:51:07 -0500 From: skunk-works-digest Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com To: skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Subject: skunk-works-digest V11 #2 skunk-works-digest Saturday, April 13 2002 Volume 11 : Number 002 Index of this digest by subject: *************************************************** Laser AC-130X Re: skunk-works-digest V11 #1 Re: Laser AC-130X RE: Laser AC-130X RE: Laser AC-130X Re: Laser AC-130X Re: Laser AC-130X Re: Laser AC-130X Re: Laser AC-130X Re: Laser AC-130X Re: RE: Laser AC-130X E-Mail Address? Origins of Dark Star New article on the A-12 in Air Power magazine Re: New article on the A-12 in Air Power magazine ADMIN: System Downtime Saturday March 30, 2002 Re: New article on the A-12 in Air Power magazine Non-member submission from [Paul Suhler ] SR-71 last flight Re: SR-71 last flight D-21Scramjet Testbed Proposal Re: SR-71 last flight Re: SR-71 last flight - Jpeg Photo available Re: SR-71 last flight - Jpeg Photo available Re: SR-71 last flight - Jpeg Photo available *************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:19:35 From: "wayne binkley" Subject: Laser AC-130X Lasers and New Gunships. gunsh-@aol.com Feb 16, 2002 23:21 PST America's laser of death cleared for take-off By Sean Rayment (Filed: 17/02/2002) AMERICA'S enemies will soon face a weapon, once confined to the Star Wars films, that can bring death at the speed of light. The special operations AC-130 Spectre Gunship, whose conventional weaponry has been used to devastating effect since the Vietnam War, is to be fitted with a laser that can shoot down missiles, punch holes in aircraft and knock out ground radar stations. Despite the successful operations against Taliban and al-Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan, the emergence of asymmetric terrorist warfare - attacks such as September 11 where the enemy is unseen - has led the Pentagon to identify the need for a more sophisticated and deadly weapons system. The next generation Gunship, code named AC-X and nicknamed 'Son of Spectre' by US defence officials, will carry all the weaponry already used on the AC-130, including twin 20mm Vulcan cannon (capable of firing 2,500 rounds per minute), 40mm Bofors cannon (100 rounds per minute) and a 105mm Howitzer. Its 21st-century addition, however, will be its biggest punch: a chemical oxygen iodine laser (Coil), capable of carrying out lethal and non-lethal attacks. The advantage of laser weapons is that they strike at the speed of light. In the Coil, the power of a chemical reaction is converted to laser energy, and the weapon can carry on firing as long as its power source is intact. Paul Wolfowitz, the US deputy defence secretary, has given the go-ahead for the next-generation AC-130, which includes full funding for the "integration of a direct-energy weapon". The Pentagon is yet to announce when the new laser-equipped "Son of Spectre" will come into operation, but it is understood that the first upgraded version could be involved in military operations within two years. Although lasers exist that can hit aircraft, disable optically guided missiles and destroy communications lines, the ability to vaporise enemy troops and vehicles Star Wars-style will take a few more years to develop. The Spectre, flown by the 16th Special Operations Squadron, has a crew of 13, including two observers using television and infra-red images to direct the four gunners on to their target. Working in pairs, normally providing close air support for special forces ground operations, Spectres can circle targets for hours, pulverising areas the size of football pitches with extraordinary precision. The Spectre has, however, come to the end of its operational life and further upgrades have been ruled out on cost grounds. Rob Hewson, the editor of Jane's Air Launched Weapons, said: "The laser will be the atomic weapon of the 21st century. Since the 1970s, US scientists have conducted a series of secret experiments in the Nevada desert using lasers. "We know that they had lasers capable of causing immense damage but they needed huge power packs. This remains a problem and this is why a laser weapon can only be fitted on an air frame the size of the AC-130. But advances will be made and the power plant will shrink and one day it will dominate the battle field. "The Americans may already have a very powerful laser weapon far more advanced than we have seen. They have been carrying out research in this field for years but it is a very secret weapons programme and we have no idea how far they have progressed." Once the Coil and its power plant have been fully developed, the USAF hopes to fit it to a whole range of manned and unmanned aircraft, such as the Predator reconnaissance probe, which is fitted with Hellfire missiles and has been used in CIA operations in Afghanistan. Lasers could also be used as an additional weapon system to fighters, bombers, helicopter gunships and warships, but this is unlikely for a decade. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 12:37:01 EST From: Liddicoat5@aol.com Subject: Re: skunk-works-digest V11 #1 Re: secondary stuff on Groom Lake lakebed: keep in mind that Groom was one of dozens of dry lakes that hosted US Army dirt airstrips for pilot training during WW2. The "secondary" stuff looks like the old WW2 dirt runways. You see similar abandoned dirt strips all over the Southwest: when I'm puttering around the desert in my Piper Cherokee, it's a pretty common site. Brian D. Liddicoat Attorney At Law Aptos, CA In a message dated 2/22/2002 9:23:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com writes: > FWIW, there's a nice Ikonos pic of Groom Lake taken 16 April 2001 that > shows, presumably because of favorable lighting conditions, secondary > stuff > on the lake bed: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 15:03:16 EST From: MiGEater1@aol.com Subject: Re: Laser AC-130X I want to go on record as being the first to dub the laser AC-130X the Lockheed Deathstar. John Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:10:47 -0000 From: "Gavin Payne" Subject: RE: Laser AC-130X Death for the crew or the enemy? The Deathstar is also the RAF nickname for their Tri-Star (L1011). - -----Original Message----- From: owner-skunk-works@netwrx1.com [mailto:owner-skunk-works@netwrx1.com] On Behalf Of MiGEater1@aol.com Sent: 22 February 2002 20:03 To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com Subject: Re: Laser AC-130X I want to go on record as being the first to dub the laser AC-130X the Lockheed Deathstar. John Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 17:03:29 From: "wayne binkley" Subject: RE: Laser AC-130X If it's not already,someday the oldest acft in the USAF inventory might become a C-130(although B-52s and KC-135s are also old).It would be ironic that (not counting the C-130J)some day the oldest design on active duty(flying) might also have the latest thing in weaponry. from what little I glean from the press,various DOD and military officers are once again impressed with the AC-130s.the latest version is the AC-130U.one advantage of the "U boat" is it is pressurized and can track and fire on two targets one kilometer apart at the same time. I realize this is not really skunky but things are slow. for some facts about C-130 gunships go to: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm wayne _________________________________________________________________ Join the world^Rs largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 12:14:57 -0600 From: "Allen Thomson" Subject: Re: Laser AC-130X Has anyone seen just what kinds of targets the laser is supposed to zap? I'm a little puzzled, because for shooting up people, vehicles, buildings, etc, the usual stuff the AC-130 carries would seem to be more lethal and probably less bother to operate and maintain. Perhaps it's more of a psychologcal weapon? It can't be good for morale to see your buddy suddenly burst into flame. Or maybe the advantage will be range and surprise against high-value people and objects. Sort of a long-range sniper gun. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 13:47:39 -0500 From: John Szalay Subject: Re: Laser AC-130X At 12:14 PM 2/23/02 -0600, you wrote: >Has anyone seen just what kinds of targets the laser is >supposed to zap? > >I'm a little puzzled, because for shooting up people, >vehicles, buildings, etc, the usual stuff the AC-130 >carries would seem to be more lethal and probably >less bother to operate and maintain. > >Perhaps it's more of a psychologcal weapon? It can't be >good for morale to see your buddy suddenly burst >into flame. > >Or maybe the advantage will be range and surprise >against high-value people and objects. Sort of a long-range >sniper gun. IIRC: Use of Lasers as a primary weapon against human targets is forbidden by treaty... Need to look up the details, but thats what I remember.. (20+ years in the laser business) have to go thru several books on this topic to look for details.. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:26:33 -0500 From: John Szalay Subject: Re: Laser AC-130X At 12:14 PM 2/23/02 -0600, you wrote: >Has anyone seen just what kinds of targets the laser is >supposed to zap? > >I'm a little puzzled, because for shooting up people, >vehicles, buildings, etc, Just checked on-line: Laser treaty only applies to lasers for Blinding use: Convention on Conventional Weapons (CCW) Protocol IV, on Blinding Laser Weapons, prohibits the use and transfer of laser weapons designed to cause permanent blindness to unenhanced vision. http://www.aph.gov.au/house/committee/jsct/reports/report5/contents.htm http://www.fas.org/nuke/control/ccw/ http://users.wmin.ac.uk/~mellerj/vision/laser.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 13:34:20 -0600 From: "Allen Thomson" Subject: Re: Laser AC-130X > Convention on Conventional Weapons (CCW) > Protocol IV, on Blinding Laser Weapons, prohibits the use and > transfer of laser weapons designed to cause permanent blindness > to unenhanced vision. Not to slide into theology, or even the law (I am not now, nor have I ever been, a theologian or lawyer), but one suspects that "permanent blindness" is a side-effect of death. But probably that's not what the CCW had in mind. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 07:24:08 -0500 From: "James P. Stevenson" Subject: Re: Laser AC-130X I'm out of the office Thursday and Friday February 21 and 22nd. If you need to reach me, I am available by mobile phone: 202-345-0010. I'll respond to your e-mail early next week. Jim Stevenson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 07:24:08 -0500 From: "James P. Stevenson" Subject: Re: I'm out of the office Thursday and Friday February 21 and 22nd. If you need to reach me, I am available by mobile phone: 202-345-0010. I'll respond to your e-mail early next week. Jim Stevenson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:24:28 -0500 (EST) From: Mary Shafer Subject: RE: Laser AC-130X On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, wayne binkley wrote: > If it's not already,someday the oldest acft in the USAF inventory might > become a C-130. The oldest airplane in the USAF inventory is the NC-131, which is a heavily modified Convair, a 586, I think. This airplane is also called the TIFS, Total In-Flight Simulator. It was the second-oldest until they retired the NT-33A, a variable-stability in-flight simulator but not as capable as the TIFS. But for airplanes without the N, I think the oldest is a C-130, since the B-52Hs all date from the 60s. I'm pretty sure the USAF has taken the NB-52B at Dryden off the inventory. Regards, Mary Mary Shafer DoD #0362 KotFR shafer@ursa-major.spdcc.com "Some days it don't come easy/And some days it don't come hard Some days it don't come at all/And these are the days that never end...." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 16:10:23 +0100 From: Andreas Parsch Subject: E-Mail Address? Hello, does anybody know how to contact Jay Miller ("X Planes") by e-mail? I have an old "jniessen@aol.com" entry in my address book, but this is apparently no longer valid (at least I get no response ;-)). Many thanks in advance! [NOTE: I really don't know if asking for somebody's private e-mail on a public forum is good 'netiquette'. If not, I deeply apologize.] Best regards Andreas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:13:14 -0600 From: "Allen Thomson" Subject: Origins of Dark Star I was googling about and found something I posted on Usenet back in 1999. As things continue to be slow in skunkland, perhaps someone would care to comment on it, perhaps provide relevant information that has been found in the past three years. - ----------------------------Original Posting----------------------------------------------- Buried on pp. 77-78 of the 24 May 1999 AWST is an article that might bear on things skunkish and, who knows, even Area 51-ish. Long-Term Stealth Project Gets the Ax by David A. Fulghum Aviation Week & Space Technology May 24, 1999, pp. 77-78 [EXCERPTS] In consolidating recent mergers, Boeing has committed itself to ruthlessly cutting programs that aren't going to make near-term profits. One victim is a stealthy, unmanned reconnaissance aircraft project, most of which is still classified... Initially, the 15-year long black program was designed to build a strategic reconnaissance aircraft that resembled the Dark-Star in shape and approached the B-2 bomber in size and cost, according to several Pentagon officials. The aircraft was to penetrate contested airspace... [,] carry a wide range of sensors and serve as a replacement for the long-lived U-2. High cost and the post-Cold War political environment led to a scaling down of the project and the subsequent design of several smaller, cheaper versions. Boeing teamed with Lockheed Martin during the redesign on what was known as the Tier 3 UAV. This project was abandoned in 1992. The stealth design was then shrunk a third time and built as the Tier 3- UAV, later called Dark Star. [Dark Star was suddenly canceled on 27 Jan 1999 by Pentagon acquisition chief Jacques Gansler.] Pentagon supporters of the Global Hawk and DarkStar long-endurance UAV programs said Gansler's recommendation came at the Air Force's urging. The idea is to kill the Dark Star now, cancel production of the Global Hawk in a year or two and then launch into a new program for a large stealthy UAV. It would have a 1-2-ton payload and the ability to operate covertly even when under observation by low- frequency radars. Comment: The part about the B-2-sized UAV being intended as a replacement for the U-2 (at least the post-1960s U-2) strikes me as questionable. More likely, IMO, is that its primary task was to perform reconnaissance over the Soviet Union in support of the B-2's original raison d'etre: destruction of strategic relocatable targets, aka mobile ICBMs and IRBMs. Things pointing to this interpretation are: - - the characterization of it as a "strategic reconnaissance aircraft" - - the timeframe in which it must have been initiated (probably during Reagan's first term, maybe early in his second one, when strategic warfighting programs were being pushed) - - the size, stealth and associated cost, all of which were much more compatible with the Cold-War strategic warfighting mission than with simple replacement of the U-2 - - the fact that the mobile-missile hunting mission of the B-2 seriously needed something to provide broad-area, more or less continuous surveillance. Satellites and the SR-71 wouldn't have done it very well because of dwell and revisit problems; the big UAV would have been much better suited to the task. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:44:50 -0500 (EST) From: "D. Allison" Subject: New article on the A-12 in Air Power magazine Hello, The list has been kind of slow. Though some of you might want to check out the upcoming issue of Air Power. Nice cover article on the A-12; check out a preview here: http://fp3.antelecom.net/fotodude/images/airpower.jpg - D - David Allison webmaster@habu.org S L O W E R T R A F F I C K E E P R I G H T tm / \ / \ _/ ___ \_ ________/ \_______/V!V\_______/ \_______ \__/ \___/ \__/ www.habu.org The OnLine Blackbird Museum ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:18:01 -0800 From: Art Hanley Subject: Re: New article on the A-12 in Air Power magazine Also, the new Issue of International Air Power Review (successor to World Air Power Journal) has a 14 page article on the Senior Bowl/D-21 program. Lots of new photos. I don't know how this magazine does what it does, but I'm glad it does. Art "D. Allison" wrote: > > Hello, > > The list has been kind of slow. Though some of you might want to > check out the upcoming issue of Air Power. Nice cover article on > the A-12; check out a preview here: > > http://fp3.antelecom.net/fotodude/images/airpower.jpg > > - D - > > David Allison > webmaster@habu.org > > S L O W E R T R A F F I C K E E P R I G H T > tm > / \ > / \ > _/ ___ \_ > ________/ \_______/V!V\_______/ \_______ > \__/ \___/ \__/ > > www.habu.org > The OnLine Blackbird Museum ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:11:12 -0600 From: George Kasica Subject: ADMIN: System Downtime Saturday March 30, 2002 NOTICE: To repair the last of the damage from the March 8, 2002 lightning strike all systems here at Netwrx Consulting Inc. WILL BE SHUT DOWN from 1200(1800Z) CST Saturday March 30, 2002 until 1800(0000Z) Saturday March 30, 2002. The reason for the shutdown is replacement of the automatic generator control switch, which requires all power into the facility to be interrupted during this process. Thank you for your patience in this maintenance period. If you have any questions please call 262-677-0766. Sincerely, George R. Kasica President Netwrx Consulting Inc. ===[George R. Kasica]=== +1 262 677 0766 President +1 206 374 6482 FAX Netwrx Consulting Inc. Jackson, WI USA http://www.netwrx1.com georgek@netwrx1.com ICQ #12862186 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 07:32:18 -0800 (PST) From: gregd@habu2.net Subject: Re: New article on the A-12 in Air Power magazine I picked this issue up on Monday. I'm sure most of us have seen most of the content before but I'm not complaining. There is one photo of a desk model depicting a centerline SAR pod that they claim has never been shown before. The issue also implies this is the first of a four-part series, covering the YF-12, SR-71 and ??? in future issues. GregD On Mon, 18 March 2002, "D. Allison" wrote > The list has been kind of slow. Though some of you might want to > check out the upcoming issue of Air Power. Nice cover article on > the A-12; check out a preview here: > > http://fp3.antelecom.net/fotodude/images/airpower.jpg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:10:53 -0600 From: George Kasica Subject: Non-member submission from [Paul Suhler ] approved tibbs1 >On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 23:36:50 -0600, you wrote: >>From suhler@pacbell.net Tue Apr 02 23:36:50 2002 >Received: from mail by eagle.netwrx1.com with spam-scanned (Exim 3.34 > #1) id 16sdRq-0004xo-00 for skunk-works@netwrx1.com; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 > 23:36:45 -0600 >Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net ([206.13.28.240]) by > eagle.netwrx1.com with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16sdRm-0004xj-00 for > skunk-works@netwrx1.com; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 23:36:38 -0600 >Received: from pacbell.net ([64.165.142.241]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net > (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id > <0GTZ00H3P8X00C@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for skunk-works@netwrx1.com; Tue, > 02 Apr 2002 21:36:37 -0800 (PST) >Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:35:18 -0800 >From: Paul Suhler >Subject: Seeking Sons of Bill Park >To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com >Reply-to: suhler@ieee.org >Message-id: <3CAA9492.A17FA35B@pacbell.net> >MIME-version: 1.0 >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) >Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >X-Accept-Language: en,ja >References: >X-Scanner: exiscan *16sdRm-0004xj-00*FCdopJyQOgc* (Netwrx Consulting > Inc., Jackson, WI USA) >X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests= version=2.11 > >I'm trying to contact either or both of the sons of Bill Park, the >former test pilot at the Skunk Works. If anyone knows how I can get in >touch with them, please let me know. > >thanks, > >Paul Suhler George, MR. Tibbs, Nazerene & The Beast Kasica(8/1/88-3/19/01) Jackson, WI USA georgek@netwrx1.com http://www.netwrx1.com/georgek ICQ #12862186 Zz zZ |\ z _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' _ ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'_' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 02:00:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Wei-Jen Su Subject: SR-71 last flight Anyone know when was the last official flight of the SR-71? Are there any SR-71 still flying right now? To the best of my knowledge, I know the SR-71 flew in the 1999 Edwards AFB Open House. After that, I don't know if she had flown more. Thanks in advance. May the Force be with you Wei-Jen Su E-mail: wsu@caltech.edu - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Whether outwardly or inwardly, whether in space or time, the farther we penetrate the unknown, the vaster and more marvelous it becomes." Charles A. Lindbergh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:08:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "D. Allison" Subject: Re: SR-71 last flight Hello, October 9, 1999 was the last flight. There was to be another flight the following day, but it was cancelled "due to a massive fuel leak." Photos here: October 9: http://www.habu.org/sr-71/17980a.html October 10: http://www.habu.org/events/edwards1999-10b.html David Allison webmaster@habu.org S L O W E R T R A F F I C K E E P R I G H T tm / \ / \ _/ ___ \_ ________/ \_______/V!V\_______/ \_______ \__/ \___/ \__/ www.habu.org The OnLine Blackbird Museum On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Wei-Jen Su wrote: > Anyone know when was the last official flight of the SR-71? Are there any > SR-71 still flying right now? To the best of my knowledge, I know the > SR-71 flew in the 1999 Edwards AFB Open House. After that, I don't know if > she had flown more. Thanks in advance. > > May the Force be with you > > Wei-Jen Su > E-mail: wsu@caltech.edu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > "Whether outwardly or inwardly, whether in space or time, the farther we > penetrate the unknown, the vaster and more marvelous it becomes." > Charles A. Lindbergh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 15:29:43 +0100 From: "David" Subject: D-21Scramjet Testbed Proposal Have I imagined it, or do I recall reading in AW&ST that some of the old D-21 drones were being considered for flight testing scramjet and other advanced propulsion systems ? It was a year or so back - maybe more. I'd love to think that some of these amazing machines would do something more than act as museum pieces. Best David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:36:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Mary Shafer Subject: Re: SR-71 last flight On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Wei-Jen Su wrote: > Anyone know when was the last official flight of the SR-71? Are there any > SR-71 still flying right now? To the best of my knowledge, I know the > SR-71 flew in the 1999 Edwards AFB Open House. After that, I don't know if > she had flown more. Thanks in advance. That was the last flight of the SR-71, on the first day of the Open House. As to how official it is, or was, I don't know what to say. It's never flown since, but it wasn't planned that it would be the last flight. Sunday was, though, except that we laid them up in flyable storage in the hope that someone with enough money and a good idea would still want them, so even Sunday wasn't envisioned as the absolute end. Mary Mary Shafer DoD #0362 KotFR shafer@ursa-major.spdcc.com "Some days it don't come easy/And some days it don't come hard Some days it don't come at all/And these are the days that never end...." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:09:14 EDT From: SecretJet@aol.com Subject: Re: SR-71 last flight - Jpeg Photo available In a message dated 10/04/02 16:39:18 GMT Daylight Time, shafer@spdcc.com writes: << That was the last flight of the SR-71, on the first day of the Open House. >> Greetings! I just happened to be 'Press/Media' at that show, - thanks to the PAO who took us out to the South Side of the runway! I have a fairly nice shot of the SR-71 landing, the large red braking parachute looks good in the sunshine... (Of course it's not as good as the 'official' photos, - but then I don't have her $10,000 digital camera!) If anyone would like a copy e-mailed to 'em, please let me know... - ------------------------------- Best Regards, Bill Turner, B-T 'Admin'. http://www.secretjet.net Black-Triangle E-Group HQ. Near London Heathrow, UK. http://members.aol.com/BlackTriangles/index.html - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Keep Your Eyes On The Skies! - ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://members.aol.com/Secretjet/Links.html Black-Triangle Links ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:25:51 -0500 From: Have Blue Subject: Re: SR-71 last flight - Jpeg Photo available Please, email me a copy!! - - Michael SecretJet@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/04/02 16:39:18 GMT Daylight Time, >shafer@spdcc.com writes: > ><< That was the last flight of the SR-71, >on the first day of the Open House. >> > >Greetings! > >I just happened to be 'Press/Media' at that show, > - thanks to the PAO who took us out to the >South Side of the runway! > >I have a fairly nice shot of the SR-71 landing, the large >red braking parachute looks good in the sunshine... >(Of course it's not as good as the 'official' photos, > - but then I don't have her $10,000 digital camera!) > >If anyone would like a copy e-mailed to 'em, >please let me know... >------------------------------- >Best Regards, >Bill Turner, B-T 'Admin'. >http://www.secretjet.net >Black-Triangle E-Group HQ. >Near London Heathrow, UK. >http://members.aol.com/BlackTriangles/index.html >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Keep Your Eyes On The Skies! >----------------------------------------------------------------- >http://members.aol.com/Secretjet/Links.html >Black-Triangle Links ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 05:49:44 EDT From: SecretJet@aol.com Subject: Re: SR-71 last flight - Jpeg Photo available In a message dated 12/04/02 17:29:53 GMT Daylight Time, haveblue@matrixpm.com writes: << Please, email me a copy!! >> Here it comes... - ----------------------------------------- Best Regards, Bill Turner, B-T 'Admin'. http://www.secretjet.net Black-Triangle E-Group HQ. 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