From owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Tue Dec 3 00:11:17 2002 Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 09:09:32 -0600 From: skunk-works-digest Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com To: skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Subject: skunk-works-digest V11 #7 skunk-works-digest Monday, December 2 2002 Volume 11 : Number 007 Index of this digest by subject: *************************************************** Steve Douglass Email Address Re: Steve Douglass Email Address Re: Steve Douglass Email Address? Re: Steve Douglass Email Address Steve Douglass Email Address Re: Steve Douglass Email Address Re: Steve Douglass Email Address? new Airpower due out soon (fwd) Aerial Re-Fueling? Re: Aerial Re-Fueling? Large Transport? Re: Aerial Re-Fueling?, Reno ANG Re: Large Transport? *****SPAM***** UAV? Re: Aerial Re-Fueling?, Reno ANG Re: *****SPAM***** UAV? Re: *****SPAM***** UAV? Re: *****SPAM***** UAV? Happy Thanksgiving! Re: Aerial Re-Fueling? Re: Aerial Re-Fueling? Just a little story for you all Large Aeroplane... SR-71 moved to outside storage. Goin' high and fast: ISINGLASS, SCIENCE DAWN and beyond Blackbird Stealth Movie (fwd) *************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:33:10 +0000 From: Adrian Mann Subject: Steve Douglass Email Address Hi All, Does anyone have a valid email address for Steve Douglas? I recently had an email from someone who saw something 'odd' from a commercial flight, and would like to pass it along to him. Adrian Mann ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:03:26 +0100 From: Andreas Parsch Subject: Re: Steve Douglass Email Address Adrian Mann wrote: > Hi All, > > Does anyone have a valid email address for Steve Douglas? On Steve's website ("http://www.projectblack.net/"), the address "webbfeat@1s.net" is given. Andreas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 09:18:03 EST From: SecretJet@aol.com Subject: Re: Steve Douglass Email Address? In a message dated 20/11/02 10:36:11 GMT Standard Time, aemann@blueyonder.co.uk writes: << Does anyone have a valid email address for Steve Douglas? >> Try: webbfeat@1s.net - ------------------ Clear Skies! Bill Turner, B-T 'Admin'. http://www.secretjet.net Black-Triangle E-Group HQ. Near London Heathrow, UK. http://members.aol.com/BlackTriangles/index.html - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Trust No-One! - ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://members.aol.com/Secretjet/Links.html Black-Triangle Links ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:39:08 +0000 From: Adrian Mann Subject: Re: Steve Douglass Email Address Thanks guys, I'll pass it on. Adrian Mann ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:33:10 +0000 From: Adrian Mann Subject: Steve Douglass Email Address Hi All, Does anyone have a valid email address for Steve Douglas? I recently had an email from someone who saw something 'odd' from a commercial flight, and would like to pass it along to him. Adrian Mann ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:03:26 +0100 From: Andreas Parsch Subject: Re: Steve Douglass Email Address Adrian Mann wrote: > Hi All, > > Does anyone have a valid email address for Steve Douglas? On Steve's website ("http://www.projectblack.net/"), the address "webbfeat@1s.net" is given. Andreas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 09:18:03 EST From: SecretJet@aol.com Subject: Re: Steve Douglass Email Address? In a message dated 20/11/02 10:36:11 GMT Standard Time, aemann@blueyonder.co.uk writes: << Does anyone have a valid email address for Steve Douglas? >> Try: webbfeat@1s.net - ------------------ Clear Skies! Bill Turner, B-T 'Admin'. http://www.secretjet.net Black-Triangle E-Group HQ. Near London Heathrow, UK. http://members.aol.com/BlackTriangles/index.html - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Trust No-One! - ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://members.aol.com/Secretjet/Links.html Black-Triangle Links ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:32:59 -0500 (EST) From: "D. Allison" Subject: new Airpower due out soon (fwd) Hello, Got the following email from the author of a new article on the M/D-21 in the Jan '03 Airpower magazine, due out next month. Just in case the digester is stripping attachments, I've put the cover art here: http://www.habu.org/credited/airpower.jpg Sincerely, - D - David Allison webmaster@habu.org S L O W E R T R A F F I C K E E P R I G H T tm / \ / \ _/ ___ \_ ________/ \_______/V!V\_______/ \_______ \__/ \___/ \__/ www.habu.org The OnLine Blackbird Museum - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 18:03:33 -0800 Subject: Airpower Hi Guys, Just received an advance copy of the next cover of Airpower and thought you all might enjoy the advance look. This is the first issue with a new printer and I think they did a great job on the quality. The issue should be on the stands the first week of Dec. The issue has a couple of 'new' images of the M-21 as well as the B-52/D-21 combo and a couple pics of static structural testing on the D-21. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 11:34:03 -0800 From: "Mr. K. Rudolph" Subject: Aerial Re-Fueling? My Father-In-Law has told me several times that he has seen aerial refueling in heavily populated areas. I didn't beleive him 'till last night when I saw it myself! Flying over Reno, NV! There were three craft, stacked, the bottom one receiving fuel, the tanker above that, and above those, slightly forward was a VERY large aeroplane, could this be some sort of fighter/bomber escort? Is it normal to fuel over a populated area? Reno, Lake Tahoe etc? A couple days ago, I saw an odd plane. At first glance it looked like a passenger jet as it was in their normal route. Something didn't sound quite, it sounded like those massive supercharged V8 engines, not like a jet at all, the sound wasn't even close!! I looked up when it was overhead, and this one was either charcoal gray or olive drab in color, and extremely huge, easily double that of any other jet I have seen and very, very fat. It had four wing mounted engines which where also very short and fat. The rudder seemed to be taller than usual and the elevator was on top of the rudder. Any ideas? Kurt - --- Ross Technologies Signals Intelligence Division Rosetta Proving Grounds ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:49:17 -0600 From: "Robert S. Hopkins, III" Subject: Re: Aerial Re-Fueling? Thanks for your e-mail. Aerial refueling is usually conducted at high altitude, FL240 - FL270 (approx. 24,000 - 27,000 feet). This is because the air is usually smoothest and the airplanes get the best performance as their weight varies with onload/offload of fuel. There are many air refueling "tracks" that pass over or near populated areas, as do many airways for commercial jet liners. This is all very safe. Low altitude refueling (I was involved in a program for A/R at 200 and 500 feet above the ground) has proven unfeasible, as the turbulence is too bad to get a steady contact, especially on a hot day with small fighters. That said, low-altitude demonstrations, especially for air shows, publicity shots, etc., are not uncommon. Although the boom is extended and the receiver in close proximity, fuel is not exchanged (the fuel load is probably also pretty light, too). I recall doing such a flight along the Chicago lakeshore a couple thousand feet from the city and only 500 feet above the water (must have been a great view from the top of the Sears Tower looking DOWN on all of this....). I have no idea what the "VERY large" airplane you mention was. The flight you saw might have been a photo shoot, and the large airplane was another type of tanker (say a KC-10) participating in this effort. The Nevada ANG at Reno used to fly RF-4s but now flies C-130s, including some special mission airplanes. One of these may have been the airplane you saw, but at night it would be very difficult to tell without sufficient light. The airplane you mention in your second paragraph might well have been a C-17, which fits your description very well. I hope this helps. Best Regards, DrBob >My Father-In-Law has told me several times that he has seen aerial refueling >in heavily populated areas. I didn't beleive him 'till last night when I >saw it myself! Flying over Reno, NV! There were three craft, stacked, the >bottom one receiving fuel, the tanker above that, and above those, slightly >forward was a VERY large aeroplane, could this be some sort of >fighter/bomber escort? Is it normal to fuel over a populated area? Reno, >Lake Tahoe etc? > >A couple days ago, I saw an odd plane. At first glance it looked like a >passenger jet as it was in their normal route. Something didn't sound >quite, it sounded like those massive supercharged V8 engines, not like a jet >at all, the sound wasn't even close!! I looked up when it was overhead, and >this one was either charcoal gray or olive drab in color, and extremely >huge, easily double that of any other jet I have seen and very, very fat. >It had four wing mounted engines which where also very short and fat. The >rudder seemed to be taller than usual and the elevator was on top of the >rudder. > >Any ideas? > >Kurt > >--- >Ross Technologies Signals Intelligence Division >Rosetta Proving Grounds ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 17:04:15 EST From: SecretJet@aol.com Subject: Large Transport? Greetings! Sounds like a C-5 Galaxy to me... In a message dated 26/11/02 19:40:12 GMT Standard Time, krudolph@ross-technologies.com writes: << A couple days ago, I saw an odd plane. I looked up when it was overhead, and this one was either charcoal gray or olive drab in color, and extremely huge, easily double that of any other jet I have seen and very, very fat. Sounds like a C-5 - 'Aluminun Overcast'! (Or possibly a C-17?) << It had four wing mounted engines which where also very short and fat. The rudder seemed to be taller than usual and the elevator was on top of the rudder. >> Called a 'T-tail' - Galaxy gets my vote! KC-135 Tanker pilots say they feel the 'bow wave' when a large reciever closes in from behind, it lifts the tail of the KC-135 as it gets nearer! - ------------------ Clear Skies! Bill Turner, B-T 'Admin'. http://www.secretjet.net Black-Triangle E-Group HQ. Near London Heathrow, UK. http://members.aol.com/BlackTriangles/index.html - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Trust No-One! - ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://members.aol.com/Secretjet/Links.html Black-Triangle Links ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 19:06:35 -0800 (PST) From: krudolph@ross-technologies.com Subject: Re: Aerial Re-Fueling?, Reno ANG I watch the Reno ANG aerocraft each day as they depart south and turn over my house, always three (except recently) and always in formation. I am wondering where they go as it is always the same time and flight pattern. Kurt On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, "Robert S. Hopkins, III" wrote: > > Thanks for your e-mail. > > Aerial refueling is usually conducted at high altitude, FL240 - FL270 > (approx. 24,000 - 27,000 feet). This is because the air is usually > smoothest and the airplanes get the best performance as their weight > varies with onload/offload of fuel. There are many air refueling > "tracks" that pass over or near populated areas, as do many airways > for commercial jet liners. This is all very safe. > > Low altitude refueling (I was involved in a program for A/R at 200 > and 500 feet above the ground) has proven unfeasible, as the > turbulence is too bad to get a steady contact, especially on a hot > day with small fighters. > > That said, low-altitude demonstrations, especially for air shows, > publicity shots, etc., are not uncommon. Although the boom is > extended and the receiver in close proximity, fuel is not exchanged > (the fuel load is probably also pretty light, too). I recall doing > such a flight along the Chicago lakeshore a couple thousand feet from > the city and only 500 feet above the water (must have been a great > view from the top of the Sears Tower looking DOWN on all of this....). > > I have no idea what the "VERY large" airplane you mention was. The > flight you saw might have been a photo shoot, and the large airplane > was another type of tanker (say a KC-10) participating in this effort. > > The Nevada ANG at Reno used to fly RF-4s but now flies C-130s, > including some special mission airplanes. One of these may have been > the airplane you saw, but at night it would be very difficult to tell > without sufficient light. > > The airplane you mention in your second paragraph might well have > been a C-17, which fits your description very well. > > I hope this helps. > > Best Regards, > > DrBob > > > > > >My Father-In-Law has told me several times that he has seen aerial > refueling > >in heavily populated areas. I didn't beleive him 'till last night when I > >saw it myself! Flying over Reno, NV! There were three craft, stacked, the > >bottom one receiving fuel, the tanker above that, and above those, slightly > >forward was a VERY large aeroplane, could this be some sort of > >fighter/bomber escort? Is it normal to fuel over a populated area? Reno, > >Lake Tahoe etc? > > > >A couple days ago, I saw an odd plane. At first glance it looked like a > >passenger jet as it was in their normal route. Something didn't sound > >quite, it sounded like those massive supercharged V8 engines, not like a > jet > >at all, the sound wasn't even close!! I looked up when it was overhead, > and > >this one was either charcoal gray or olive drab in color, and extremely > >huge, easily double that of any other jet I have seen and very, very fat. > >It had four wing mounted engines which where also very short and fat. The > >rudder seemed to be taller than usual and the elevator was on top of the > >rudder. > > > >Any ideas? > > > >Kurt > > > >--- > >Ross Technologies Signals Intelligence Division > >Rosetta Proving Grounds - --- Ross Technologies Signals Intelligence Division Rosetta Proving Grounds (775) 629-0831 ext. 406 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 22:29:58 -0800 From: "Mr. K. Rudolph" Subject: Re: Large Transport? Saw the C-5 photos and found audio recordings, this is what the craft I saw is! Kurt - --- Ross Technologies Signals Intelligence Division Rosetta Proving Grounds ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 00:12:38 -0800 From: "Mr. K. Rudolph" Subject: *****SPAM***** UAV? SPAM: -------------------- Start SpamAssassin results ---------------------- SPAM: This mail is probably spam. The original message has been altered SPAM: so you can recognise or block similar unwanted mail in future. SPAM: See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. SPAM: SPAM: Content analysis details: (5 hits, 5 required) SPAM: Hit! (2.0 points) Subject is all capitals SPAM: Hit! (0.0 points) Subject: ends in a question mark SPAM: Hit! (1.0 point) Received via a relay in inputs.orbz.org SPAM: [RBL check: found 22.120.217.207.inputs.orbz.org., type: 127.0.0.1] SPAM: Hit! (2.0 points) Received via a relay in relays.osirusoft.com SPAM: [RBL check: found 108.176.187.63.relays.osirusoft.com.] SPAM: SPAM: -------------------- End of SpamAssassin results --------------------- Another report tonight... About 11PM, southeast of Reno NV, roughly 30mi east of Carson City NV. Craft came over hills from Reno to the north-west, flew low to the ground roughly 150', strobes, flew within a 1/4 mile of the house, then prescribed a 180: over a dry lake 1/2 mile to the south, then went towards hills to north. Speed estimated 80 - 100 MPH. Here's the kicker!!!! A low buzzing rumbling like a German buzz bomb!! Fairly slow pulsing sound, I think it is a flakey ultralight, father-in-law swears buzz-bomb, says he's heard plenty to know what it is, maybe some sort of UAV? I see those fly over from time to time. It was dark, so couldn't see the craft but saw the strobes... Any ideas of pulse engine UAVs ? Something else maybe? Kurt - --- Ross Technologies Signals Intelligence Division Rosetta Proving Grounds ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:03:08 -0500 From: John Szalay Subject: Re: Aerial Re-Fueling?, Reno ANG At 07:06 PM 11/26/02 -0800, you wrote: >I watch the Reno ANG aerocraft each day as they depart south and turn over >my house, always three (except recently) and always in formation. I am >wondering where they go as it is always the same time and flight pattern. > >Kurt > >> The Nevada ANG at Reno used to fly RF-4s but now flies C-130s, >> including some special mission airplanes. The KY ANG also transitioned into C-130 from RF-4C they too seen to fly out in the same numbers & the same time of day. and they go most times to Ft Knox, but there are exceptions.. Takeoff flight path is close over our house and the thunder of the props shakes things, look out and its 2 or 3 in trail, they turn south over the Ohio river. Ft Knox is 25 miles south. once in a while it will be one by itself, just varies with the mission. local airguard also has a combat controller group with the C-130 group so they do a lot of air drops. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:29:26 -0700 From: Brad Hitch Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** UAV? It could still be a C-5. The TF39 turbofan engines on the C-5 were the first high-bypass (8:1 bypass to engine core mass flow ratio) turbofans built. The TF39 project was undertaken specifically for the C-5 by GE in the early to mid-1960's to obtain about a 25% decrease in specific fuel consumption versus the low-bypass engines like the TF33 (Pratt & Whitney) used on the B-52H. The engines have a distinctive buzz due to the lack of understanding at the time of how to control the noise from the fan. The TF39 was the basis of the high-bypass turbofans you see on every large commercial aircraft today. The C-5 will lose this rip-saw sound and performance in all categories (esp. maintenance) will improve when it is re-engined in the coming years. Brad Hitch engineer, formerly of GE Aircraft Engines Mr. K. Rudolph wrote: > > Here's the kicker!!!! > > A low buzzing rumbling like a German buzz bomb!! Fairly slow pulsing sound, > I think it is a flakey ultralight, father-in-law swears buzz-bomb, says he's > heard plenty to know what it is, maybe some sort of UAV? I see those fly > over from time to time. > > It was dark, so couldn't see the craft but saw the strobes... > > Any ideas of pulse engine UAVs ? Something else maybe? > > Kurt > > --- > Ross Technologies Signals Intelligence Division > Rosetta Proving Grounds ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 13:42:01 -0600 From: "thomsona" Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** UAV? > The TF39 was the basis of the > high-bypass turbofans you see on every large commercial aircraft today. The C-5 > will lose this rip-saw sound and performance in all categories (esp. > maintenance) will improve when it is re-engined in the coming years. ISTR that in the late 1960s(?) some early 747s flying into Tucson had this very distinctive sound, still heard here now and then when a C-5 drops into HRL. Why a C-5 should visit Harlingen, I know not, but it's kind of fun when it does. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 14:02:03 -0600 From: "Robert S. Hopkins, III" Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** UAV? The distinctive sound of the C-5 created some humorous moments during the Gulf War. When the C-5 would power up to start taxiing at Riyadh AB, the increasing whine of the engines sounded exactly like the air raid alarm as it would "wind up." For those of us who were accustomed to the sound it was old hat, but it was funny to watch newcomers and "out of towners" jump under furniture and put on their MOP gear for fear of a SCUD attack when some C-5 was just taxiing out to the runway..... Ah, the pleasures of war. DrBob > > The TF39 was the basis of the > > high-bypass turbofans you see on every large commercial aircraft >today. The C-5 > > will lose this rip-saw sound and performance in all categories (esp. > > maintenance) will improve when it is re-engined in the coming years. > >ISTR that in the late 1960s(?) some early 747s flying into Tucson had this >very distinctive sound, still heard here now and then when a C-5 drops into >HRL. Why a C-5 should visit Harlingen, I know not, but it's kind of fun when >it does. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 14:01:51 EST From: SecretJet@aol.com Subject: Happy Thanksgiving! Dear Colonial Cousins, We're aware that around this time each year you celebrate that fateful day back in 1776 - when our glorious Mayflower pioneers found Gold in 'Them Thar Hills' & saved the Native Indians from Starvation by teaching them to breed fat Turkeys which the early settlers had thoughtfully brought from England; and then went on to banish the evil Locusts and Killer Bees bred by the Rebels in the Southern States - & Liberate all the slaves... Yee Harrrrr!!! (At least that's what young Wesley told me after watching the Discovery Channel yesterday!!!) We'd like to wish you all a Very Happy Thanksgiving, - & hope you enjoy your traditional Family Get-Togethers (as seen in so many TV sit-coms & Hollywood movies!) Enjoy! - -------------------------- Best Thanksgiving Wishes, Bill Turner, B-T 'Admin'. http://www.secretjet.net Black-Triangle E-Group HQ. Near London Heathrow, UK. http://members.aol.com/BlackTriangles/index.html - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Keep Your Eyes On The Skies! - ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://members.aol.com/Secretjet/Links.html Black-Triangle Links ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 07:41:24 +0000 From: Robin Hill Subject: Re: Aerial Re-Fueling? A C-17, perhaps? krudolph@ross_technologies.com wrote: >A couple days ago, I saw an odd plane. At first glance it >looked like a passenger jet as it was in their normal route. >Something didn't sound quite, it sounded like those massive >supercharged V8 engines, not like a jet at all, the sound >wasn't even close!! I looked up when it was overhead, and >this one was either charcoal gray or olive drab in color, >and extremely huge, easily double that of any other jet >I have seen and very, very fat. >It had four wing mounted engines which where also very >short and fat. The rudder seemed to be taller than usual and the elevator >was on top of the rudder. Robin Hill, BAE SYSTEMS, Brough, East Yorkshire, UK ******************************************************************** This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. ******************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:08:12 +0000 From: Adrian Mann Subject: Re: Aerial Re-Fueling? Agree - one thing you can say about a C-17 is that it's short and fat! Adrian Mann On 29/11/02 7:41 am, "Robin Hill" wrote: > A C-17, perhaps? > krudolph@ross_technologies.com wrote: > >> A couple days ago, I saw an odd plane. At first glance it >> looked like a passenger jet as it was in their normal route. >> Something didn't sound quite, it sounded like those massive >> supercharged V8 engines, not like a jet at all, the sound >> wasn't even close!! I looked up when it was overhead, and >> this one was either charcoal gray or olive drab in color, >> and extremely huge, easily double that of any other jet >> I have seen and very, very fat. >> It had four wing mounted engines which where also very >> short and fat. The > rudder seemed to be taller than usual and the elevator >> was on top of the rudder. > > Robin Hill, BAE SYSTEMS, Brough, East Yorkshire, UK > > > > ******************************************************************** > This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended > recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. > You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or > distribute its contents to any other person. > ******************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 22:18:21 +0000 From: Adrian Mann Subject: Just a little story for you all A week or so back I was contacted by a US ad agency GSD&M in Austin Texas, asking if they could use one of the images on my web site to use in an ad for one of their clients - the US Air Force! However, the picture they selected was of "Brilliant Buzzard"... I sent a message back to them saying that as this was an image of an aircraft that may or may not exist, they might like to check with their client. Silence for three days, then this: "At this time, I believe we will not be interested in using your image. Your instincts regarding the USAF are correct. They only want to represent actual planes that are in use." Interesting response - I'd love to have been present at a number of meetings! You can see the image in question at http://www.aemann.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/aircraft/black/black.html The go to "Brilliant Buzzard", then "images" - it's the one at the bottom of the page. Adrian Mann ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 18:56:22 -0800 From: "Mr. K. Rudolph" Subject: Large Aeroplane... It urned out to be a C-5 Galaxy, the "Aluminum Overcast"! Kurt - --- Ross Technologies Signals Intelligence Division Rosetta Proving Grounds ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:05:26 -0800 From: "Jon" Subject: SR-71 moved to outside storage. SR-71 # 971 was towed to outside storage last week, after having the wings removed. It will stay in its current location until spring, 2003, when it will be transported by truck to the Evergreen Aviation Museum in the state of Oregon. These pictures were taken by Doug Nelson, Director of the AFFTC Museum @ Edwards AFB. http://home.earthlink.net/~cur8mach/index.htm PJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:43:11 -0600 From: "thomsona" Subject: Goin' high and fast: ISINGLASS, SCIENCE DAWN and beyond http://hypersonic2002.aaaf.asso.fr/papers/17_5143.pdf Anyone know more about ISINGLASS? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:08:47 -0500 (EST) From: "D. Allison" Subject: Blackbird Stealth Movie (fwd) Hello, In case you haven't already heard, there's a NEW 1-hour TV program on the blackbird due to air in 2 weeks on the History Channel. And when I say new I mean new; they interviewed about a dozen or so blackbird crews and support folks for the show. I haven't seen it, and if this turns out to be another one of those "so much fuel leaks out on the ground that the blackbird takes off with nearly dry tanks" shows, I'll scream, but from what I hear this one is supposed to be good. As of this morning, it's scheduled to be on the History Channel at the following dates/times (all times Eastern): Sunday Dec.15 8-9 PM Monday Dec.16 Midnight-1 AM Saturday Dec.21 4-5 PM You can verify air dates at http://www.historychannel.com/ontv/index.html and search on "SR-71" or "blackbird stealth". Here is the writeup from their web page: - -------------------------- Blackbird Stealth! Sunday , December 15 8:00 PM-9:00 PM Designed in the late 1950s by aeronautical genius Kelly Johnson at the mysterious Skunkworks, the SR-71 Blackbird was the world's first stealthy aircraft, designed to over-fly enemy territory with impunity while photographing 100,000 square miles in an hour. While serving 6 presidents, it saw action on hot and cold war fronts alike. Interviews with crews and commanders combined with unbelievable footage puts viewers in the cockpit of this amazing spy plane, flying at speeds of 2,000 miles an hour. TV G" - -------------------------- Sincerely, - D - David Allison webmaster@habu.org S L O W E R T R A F F I C K E E P R I G H T tm / \ / \ _/ ___ \_ ________/ \_______/V!V\_______/ \_______ \__/ \___/ \__/ www.habu.org The OnLine Blackbird Museum ------------------------------ End of skunk-works-digest V11 #7 ******************************** To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@netwrx1.com". If you want to subscribe something other than the account the mail is coming from, such as a local redistribution list, then append that address to the "subscribe" command; for example, to subscribe "local-skunk-works": subscribe skunk-works-digest local-skunk-works@your.domain.net To unsubscribe, send mail to the same address, with the command: unsubscribe skunk-works-digest in the body. Administrative requests, problems, and other non-list mail can be sent to georgek@netwrx1.com. 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