From owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Tue Aug 9 23:22:06 2011 Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:20:59 -0500 From: skunk-works-digest Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com To: skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Subject: skunk-works-digest V16 #13 skunk-works-digest Tuesday, August 9 2011 Volume 16 : Number 013 Index of this digest by subject: *************************************************** Re: skunk-works FW Some interesting links // includes A-12 at Area 51 // Re: skunk-works FW Some interesting links // includes A-12 at Area 51 // Re: skunk-works FW Some interesting links // includes A-12 at Area 51 // Re: skunk-works FW Some interesting links // includes A-12 at Area 51 // Re: skunk-works FW Some interesting links // includes A-12 at Area 51 // Re: skunk-works FW Some interesting links // includes A-12 at Area 51 // skunk-works FW 100s of Documentaries Online, for FREE! skunk-works FW George Washington - Three Mile Oak skunk-works Dryden Historical Aircraft Photo Collection skunk-works Eleven Possibilities for the Pentagon Papers' ''11 Words'' skunk-works FW William R. Corliss Dies skunk-works FW William R. Corliss: last of his kind? skunk-works Fw: [Cryptomundo] New Comment On: William R. Corliss Dies skunk-works FW PLAAF Su-27 Chased U-2 Into Taiwan Airspace skunk-works Popular mechanics article on the Blackbird. July 1982 skunk-works Up-Ship has Lockheed Articles for sale online Re: skunk-works Up-Ship has Lockheed Articles for sale online Re: skunk-works Up-Ship has Lockheed Articles for sale online *************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 13:25:20 -0400 From: James Stevenson Subject: Re: skunk-works FW Some interesting links // includes A-12 at Area 51 // Jay, Tell me how you really feel! Jim On May 23, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Jay Miller wrote: > To all, > > Did a review of the new "Area 51" book by Annie Jacobsen for ABC News. > > In summary, it's a golden opportunity missed. > > Annie is not an airplane person and she is not in the least aviation savvy. She has no depth, no understanding, and no background that would give her the tools necessary to write about this most complex of subjects. She refers to "jet fighter rockets" and "destroyer battleships" and other such crap with far too much regularity. She gives virtually no credit to Kelly Johnson for anything that went on at Area 51 during the 1950s and 1960s - and conversely claims that Dick Bissell did everything. Tony LeVier's name is mentioned only once (that I recall), and for those of you who didn't know, the CIA did everything but build the A-12/F-12/SR-71 and D-21. One of Lockheed's U-2's crashed (during the mid-1950's flight test program) as a result of "overheating". > > I am, to put it mildly, sorely disappointed in this book. Any "non-fiction" history of Area 51 that claims the Roswell, NM flying saucer crap as the site's raison d'etre and that the flying saucer itself was the end product of Russia's post-war collaboration with the Horton Brothers isn't worthy of being a door stop, much less an historical resource in my reference library. > > Don't waste your money - not even the photos are fresh. > > Jay ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 12:28:05 -0500 From: Jay Miller Subject: Re: skunk-works FW Some interesting links // includes A-12 at Area 51 // It's a piece of shit. J. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 11:28:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Deacon Greg Weigold Subject: Re: skunk-works FW Some interesting links // includes A-12 at Area 51 // I love honesty....B B o?< Greg Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 12:22:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Allen Thomson Subject: Re: skunk-works FW Some interesting links // includes A-12 at Area 51 // How Area 51 hid aircraft http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/05/110520-area-51-secret-hid-craft-base-declassified-a-12-plane/ Without commenting on the rest of the story, the possibility that Soviet satellites of the 1960s, or even 1970s, were capable of thermal IR imagery of the kind implied is remote. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 12:22:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Allen Thomson Subject: Re: skunk-works FW Some interesting links // includes A-12 at Area 51 // How Area 51 hid aircraft http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/05/110520-area-51-secret-hid-craft-base-declassified-a-12-plane/ Without commenting on the rest of the story, the possibility that Soviet satellites of the 1960s, or even 1970s, were capable of thermal IR imagery of the kind implied is remote. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:33:30 +0100 From: "David" Subject: Re: skunk-works FW Some interesting links // includes A-12 at Area 51 // Jay Thanks for the critique on the book. It's a real shame, because there's a fantastic (literally) story to be told about Groom Lake, though how Kelly Johnson could be virtually airbrushed out of it is beyond understanding. As you know, in Ben Rich's book 'Skunk Works' the topic is covered to some degree. I don't know what it is about that place that sends apparently sentient beings ga-ga. Back in the mid 90s I was asked by my editor to look into writing an article about it - I think the news tag was the roll-out of Tacit Blue - so that would make it '96. I began the research by calling the Pentagon. I told them who I was writing for and asked to speak to someone about Groom Lake. According to all the received 'wisdom,' I was expecting to be told that no such base existed and down would go the phone. However, to my surprise, I was put through to a very helpful major who pointed out that as I appreciated, we were literally getting into classified territory, but that he'd fax me through the DoD's standard statement on the subject and that if I had any further questions, I could always ask, but the fax pretty much said all there was to say. When it came through, it said (from memory, but I still have it somewhere) that within the Nellis range near Groom Lake there was a remote site at which classified testing was undertaken that was vital to the security of the US. This site had no specific name as it was simply part of the Nellis Range. Not even a suggestion that the base didn't exist - simply that it didn't have a name. That was way back then, so why - even to this day, do some so-called 'researchers' keep banging on about the base that isn't officially acknowledged to exist? Despite that phone call - as far as I'm aware, I haven't been followed by black helicopters or tailed by MIBs in 60s black sedans - but I have to say, this micro-chip in my neck is a real PITA:) Best David - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Miller" To: Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 5:50 PM Subject: Re: skunk-works FW Some interesting links // includes A-12 at Area 51 // > To all, > > Did a review of the new "Area 51" book by Annie Jacobsen for ABC News. > > In summary, it's a golden opportunity missed. > > Annie is not an airplane person and she is not in the least aviation > savvy. She has no depth, no understanding, and no background that would > give her the tools necessary to write about this most complex of > subjects. She refers to "jet fighter rockets" and "destroyer battleships" > and other such crap with far too much regularity. She gives virtually no > credit to Kelly Johnson for anything that went on at Area 51 during the > 1950s and 1960s - and conversely claims that Dick Bissell did everything. > Tony LeVier's name is mentioned only once (that I recall), and for those > of you who didn't know, the CIA did everything but build the > A-12/F-12/SR-71 and D-21. One of Lockheed's U-2's crashed (during the > mid-1950's flight test program) as a result of "overheating". > > I am, to put it mildly, sorely disappointed in this book. Any "non- > fiction" history of Area 51 that claims the Roswell, NM flying saucer > crap as the site's raison d'etre and that the flying saucer itself was > the end product of Russia's post-war collaboration with the Horton > Brothers isn't worthy of being a door stop, much less an historical > resource in my reference library. > > Don't waste your money - not even the photos are fresh. > > Jay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 15:36:50 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: skunk-works FW 100s of Documentaries Online, for FREE! [tlc-brotherhood] 100s of Documentaries Online, for FREE! Date: Jul 1, 2011 7:19 AM http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/watch-online/ Hundreds of documentaries online here on all sorts of subjects. Even a section on conspiracies.... Not much on Vietnam but did see this one, which I last watch in the mid-'80s when I was in D.C. area. http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/vietnam-ten-thousand-day-war/ Vietnam: The Ten Thousand Day War 1980Military and War24 Comments Vietnam: The Ten Thousand Day War, a 26-part Canadian television documen- tary on the Vietnam War, was produced in 1980 by Michael Maclear. The documentary series was consolidated into 13 hour-long episodes for American television syndication. The series was released on videocassette format by Embassy and won a National Education Association award for best world documentary. The military, political, and social repercussions of the Vietnam War continue to be felt, in the ways in which it altered the landscape of American life forever. Written by CNN correspondent Peter Arnett, the 13 episodes of Vietnam: The Ten Thousand Day War trace the entire course of the conflict, from the closing days of World War II when Ho Chi Minh first began to assemble his revolutionary army, to the fall of Saigon in 1975. Documentary filmmaking simply doesnb^Yt get much better than this. With extensive archival footage shot by both sides and interviews with participants ranging from infantry soldiers to diplomats, Vietnam has a detached, journalistic objectivity and fairness throughout. It would be much easier to understand the war if it were possible to lay the blame at the feet of the French, or Kennedy, Johnson, or Nixon, but the warb^Ys progress was never that clear-cut. Rather, it was a slippery slope that inexorably led to thousands of deaths and laid waste to the country of Vietnam. Watch the full documentary now (playlist b^S 10 hours) Embedded playlist contains 50 clips. To watch the rest go to YouTube. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I downloaded this program yesterday and used it to download a couple of unrelated YouTube videos, worked fine, easy. http://www.freemake.com/free_video_downloader/ Mac Terry W. Colvin 15 Apr-10 Jul 2011 Fort Walton Beach area, Florida http://terrycolvin.freewebsites.com/ [Terry's Fortean & "Work" itty-bitty site] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 19:45:23 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: skunk-works FW George Washington - Three Mile Oak This deserves to be forwarded to several military lists, a bit of American history and a thank you for a job well done. Terry [the-tlc-mission] George Washington - Three Mile Oak Date: Jul 4, 2011 10:23 PM Three Mile Oak. At a point of grassland three miles due west of State Circle in downtown Annapolis, Maryland, there once was a favorite spot of mine. Comprised of perhaps three quarters of an acre, with a single oak and a plaque commemorating this important place in the evolution of Western Civilization. This place was the point of entry into Annapolis from points west, and in the winter of 1783, after seven years of struggle against Great Britain, the Colonies were now victorious in their Revolution. At this time Annapolis served as the interim Capitol. We had a Declaration and a successful war against the Crown, but we had no government, no enabling charter of purpose, no constitution and no funds. In any tavern in the land all of these points were hotly debated. Now as General Washington approached the city and paused under the spreading arms of this ancient oak he was met by powerful friends b^S generals of the Revolution, funders of the war, patriots of the battles. The plaque reads: b^\Under this tree passed General George Washington December 19, 1783 on his way to Annapolis to resign his commission as Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Armies; and it is thought that General Smallwood accompanied by General Gates and distinguished citizens of Annapolis met General Washington at this spotb&b^] In view of the need to create unity of purpose and a viable government these men of influence argued their case for the hero of the Revolution, the Commander of the Continental Army, to assume the role of leadership they offered: King of America. It is said that General Washington replied b^\We did not fight against tyranny to replace one king with another.b^] And with that he continued into town and took lodgings in the Maryland Inn on Main Street across from St Annes Anglican Church in Church Circle, and a few points of the compass south of State Circle and the Maryland State House b^S the oldest continuous use state house in America. He dined in the Innb^Ys Treaty of Paris restaurant and took refreshments in the Innb^Ys King of France Tavern. At the appointed hour on 23 December 1783 he walked across the street and through the short narrow pedestrian alley to the State House. He entered, met with friends and colleagues, and surrendered his sword and his Commission to a grateful nation. In due time the Continental Congress would convene in Philadelphia to create a committee to create the first constitution of a nation governed by free and freely elected men. And they would select George Washington as the first President. In February 1958, 175 years later, Dr. Elihu S. Riley, Annapolis historian, would rightly remark: b^\Revere this spot: This is the birthplace of our republic. It was here a kingdom was offered and rejected!" Now that place, sacred to some, is surrounded by freeways and flanked by a mall. Few if any b^\new peopleb^] know of Three Mile Oak and I doubt that it is taught in schools. But the fact that some few do remember, preserve and protect that heritage is more important. As the numbers of that Band of Brothers who fought in World War II dwindle, we likewise must face the fact that our own TLCB numbers are diminishing. Yet our strength and resolve remain. Like the Three Mile Oak our days may be numbered, and like that mighty symbol of Washingtonb^Ys legacy at that time and place we have a legacy to protect. Like America herself, what we did in Southeast Asia deserves to be remembered. What we do now ensures we wonb^Yt be forgotten. On this Independence Day 2011 I salute you, brothers and friends of TLCB, for your contribution to the well-being of our nation through your military service in time of war and your sacrifices made in the name of American liberty. Willi Pete William R. Peterson TLCB #1095 Da Nang, III MAF and Monkey Mountain, RVN TACC-NS Senior Director Korat RTAFB EC-121D RIVET GYM Field Director Terry W. Colvin 15 Apr-10 Jul 2011 Fort Walton Beach area, Florida http://terrycolvin.freewebsites.com/ [Terry's Fortean & "Work" itty-bitty site] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:12:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: skunk-works Dryden Historical Aircraft Photo Collection This is a unique photo and description collection of many experimental aircraft and experiments. Terry http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Photo/index.html This collection contains digitized photos of many of the unique research aircraft flown at NASA Dryden Flight Research Center at Edwards, California. These images date from the 1940s. Recent photos are added only to the Image Gallery. No copyright protection is asserted for these photographs. See Using NASA Imagery and Linking to NASA Web Sites for more information. Multiple resolutions are available. All are 24-bit color JPEGs. The FAQ will answer some frequently asked questions. Dryden Aircraft Slideshow feature the best photos of various aircraft. What's New lists photos recently added to the collection. Terry W. Colvin 15 Apr-10 Jul 2011 Fort Walton Beach area, Florida http://terrycolvin.freewebsites.com/ [Terry's Fortean & "Work" itty-bitty site] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:42:01 +0700 (GMT+07:00) From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: skunk-works Eleven Possibilities for the Pentagon Papers' ''11 Words'' PASEP to CC-3 and U-Tapao Note: Go to the link, SAB, to access this document. ''Cas/CAS'' - 2. Simple ID of a CIA Document (Controlled American Source) ''RECCE'' - 3. Covert Attacks on North Vietnam (early on advocacy) ''on-line CRYPTO RATT'' - 4. NSA Equipment Revealed (secure-line radio teleprinter) ''Of 91 known locks and dams in NVN, only 8 targeted'' - 6. Bombing North Vietnam (''bombing the dikes'' - Hell Yes!) '' ... disturbing estimate of how the Soviets would react to the closing of Haiphong harbor'' - 8. Defector Provides Intelligence, March 1968 (protecting CIA sources and methods ???) ''Through Colonel Lansdale's Group and CAS, I am canvassing attitude of sect leaders and genuineness of their alleged threats.'' - - 10. CIA Role in Diem's 1955 Saigon Putsch (Dulles brothers shenanigans) 11. NSA Interception of Soviet Leaders' Telephone Conversations (Kosygin ''President's Cipher'' and message analysis) Analysis excerpt follows: QUOTE The most straightforward application of secrecy doctrines is represented in several of the possibilities, specifically the identification of a particular CIA document, the mention of a defector as a source for another CIA report, the mention of a National Security Agency (NSA) secure communications system, and that of the NSA telephone intercepts of Soviet leaders. In each of these cases the claim to secrecy has been mooted by the passage of time, the declassification of other records that do not form parts of the Pentagon Papers, or the fact that American adversaries already knew of the relevant information. I offer two selections as my best guesses for the 11 Words. First is the possibility the CIA is continuing to try and disguise its 1955 involvement with Diem. This is inconvenient in that it reveals the Agency laying the groundwork for a course that would later diverge from official policy, calling its responsiveness to authority into question. My second possibility concerns the NSA equipment, mainly because that organization has a tendency toward reflexive secrecy, and likely paid little attention to having previously released the same information. UNQUOTE Terry (my NDA and lack of knowledge of the above information keeps me from discussing these tidbits/titbits) Eleven Possibilities for the Pentagon Papers' "11 Words" Date: Jul 13, 2011 1:50 AM National Security Archive Update, July 12, 2011 ELEVEN POSSIBILITIES FOR PENTAGON PAPERS' "11 WORDS" For more information contact: John Prados - 202/994-7000 http://www.nsarchive.org Washington, D.C., July 12, 2011 - What were the 11 words the government didn't want you to see? The aspect of the June 13 release of the full Pentagon Papers that has received the most attention is perhaps the U.S. Government's attempt to keep under wraps 11 words on one page that had in fact been in the public domain since the government edition of the Papers was published by the House Armed Services Committee (HASC) in 1972. At the eleventh hour the censors, after intervention by National Archives and Presidential Library staff, abandoned that idea and left the words in the text, thus avoiding drawing attention to them. Still, speculation has been rife about what the "11 Words" were. Classification authorities were quite right--from the standpoint of protecting secrecy--to leave the text as it stands. This makes it impossible to know what bit of the Pentagon Papers was at issue, and with the 11 Words embedded in more than 7,000 pages of text, identifying them precisely poses a huge challenge. Because the 11 Words were originally declassified long ago, there is nothing to highlight them, and the mass of the text makes it difficult just to review the material. Only speculation is feasible. In keeping with the numerical motif, the National Security Archive today offers 11 possibilities for the identity of the 11 Words. Check out the complete posting on the Archive's web site. Terry W. Colvin Ladphrao (Bangkok), Thailand Pran Buri (Hua Hin), Thailand http://terrycolvin.freewebsites.com/ [Terry's Fortean & "Work" itty-bitty site] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:34:11 +0700 (GMT+07:00) From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: skunk-works FW William R. Corliss Dies [forteana] William R. Corliss Dies Date: Jul 13, 2011 4:23 AM William R. Corliss Dies Corliss was an American physicist and writer who became known for his interest in collecting data regarding anomalous phenomena, compiled and published as The Sourcebook Project, which also included cryptozoological topics. Images. http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/corliss-obit/ Terry W. Colvin Ladphrao (Bangkok), Thailand Pran Buri (Hua Hin), Thailand http://terrycolvin.freewebsites.com/ [Terry's Fortean & "Work" itty-bitty site] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 21:52:40 +0700 (GMT+07:00) From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: skunk-works FW William R. Corliss: last of his kind? His Wikipedia entry details his background, interests, and publishing. Terry [forteana] William R. Corliss: last of his kind? Date: Jul 14, 2011 11:50 PM I believe that with the passing of William Corliss, we have lost the last researcher in the model of Charles Fort. It's not that we don't have a lot of fine researchers today - though they seem to be greying - but that we have a lot of people like Loren and the UK crypto people who are specialists, and engaged in fieldwork. Corliss, like Fort before him, did no fieldwork, but synthesized the work of other researchers from multiple fields to extract a picture of the world that is experimentally and scientifically verified yet still dramatically skewed to "conventional" viewpoints. I never understood why smart physics professors, for example, didn't send their graduate students combing Corliss' work to find thesis projects. Well... I do understand: with today's funding world, everything has to be goal-oriented and in line with the mentoring professor's research - but I think it's a Bad Idea for science. I'm curious to find out what is going to happen to his archives, and if conceivably someone else will take over his work. ......... I just edited his Wikipedia page to reflect his passing - it's here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_R._Corliss Please make any corrections to my edit you please or add new information if you have it. Terry W. Colvin Ladphrao (Bangkok), Thailand Pran Buri (Hua Hin), Thailand http://terrycolvin.freewebsites.com/ [Terry's Fortean & "Work" itty-bitty site] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 22:28:18 +0700 (GMT+07:00) From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: skunk-works Fw: [Cryptomundo] New Comment On: William R. Corliss Dies http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/corliss-obit/ Author: Loren Coleman Comment: This posting has been updated with the brief obit carried in the Baltimore Sune on July 13, 2011. William Roger Corliss | CORLISS , William Roger On July 8, 2011, WILLIAM ROGER CORLISS, age 84. Mr. Corliss was a Navy veteran having served during World War II. As a physicist, he was Director of Advanced Programs in the Nuclear Division at Martins in the 1960s. Later, he became a prolific writer, authoring 57 books on atomic energy, space propulsion, scientific satellites, teleoperators, wind tunnels, and scientific anomalies in all fields of science. He was a loving husband to his wife Virginia for 61 years, and is survived by his wife; his four children, Cathleen, Stephen, Jim, and Laura McCudden; seven grandchildren, and one great-grandson. He will always be remembered for his devotion to his wife and for his sense of humor. The family will be holding private services. Contributions in his memory may be sent to his alma mater at The Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Gifts Processing Center, P.O. Box 3164, Boston, MA, 02241-3164. Published in Baltimore Sun on July 13, 2011 Terry W. Colvin Ladphrao (Bangkok), Thailand Pran Buri (Hua Hin), Thailand http://terrycolvin.freewebsites.com/ [Terry's Fortean & "Work" itty-bitty site] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:52:30 +0700 (GMT+07:00) From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: skunk-works FW PLAAF Su-27 Chased U-2 Into Taiwan Airspace [Thailand_Expats] PLAAF Su-27 Chased U-2 Into Taiwan Airspace | Defense Tech funny, I just said something about China and Taiwan, and lookee here....lol http://defensetech.org/2011/07/26/plaaf-su-27-chased-u-2-into-taiwan-airspace/ Terry W. Colvin Ladphrao (Bangkok), Thailand Pran Buri (Hua Hin), Thailand http://terrycolvin.freewebsites.com/ [Terry's Fortean & "Work" itty-bitty site] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:01:52 -0700 (PDT) From: John Szalay Subject: skunk-works Popular mechanics article on the Blackbird. July 1982 July 1982 had an article on the Blackbird, now that the magazine is on-line, those of the group that missed the original can get a chance to read it. Starts at page 70. http://books.google.com/books?id=R9kDAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_atb#v=onepage&q&f=false ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 18:35:15 -0700 From: Joy Cohn Subject: skunk-works Up-Ship has Lockheed Articles for sale online Scott Lowther may be a familiar name to all - I asked him to put together a list of links to various Lockheed articles in Aerospace Projects Review. This is a terrific body of work and I've been buying all the new, revised issues as PDFs and I'm more than happy to recommend a guy who does outstanding work. (He also does the patterns for many of the Fantastic Planet models...) ============ This looks fine just keep these lines in that it has been OK'd by the Listowner George Kasica (that's me). Good luck hope theses some interest. I'll take a look myself tomorrow likely. George A friend of mine is running a small business and instead of his normal near-poverty wage for his hard work last year, it's worse this year. Scott Lowther is selling ebooks of his magazine, Aerospace Projects Review, as well as downloadable drawings - various air /space subjects and also the Lockheed Skunk Works "Archangel" CAD drawings he worked up for Suhler's "RAINBOW to GUSTO". Technically it's spam, but it's also very topical. Would it be ok to post something like this? Thanks for considering, Joy "Aerospace projects Review" is a PDF journal covering unbuilt aircraft and spacecraft designs: http://www.up-ship.com/eAPR/index.htm Issue V1N1 of "Aerospace Projects Review" has a well illustrated article on the Lockheed "Flatbed" cargo transport concept: http://www.up-ship.com/eAPR/ev1n1.htm Issue V1N3 of "Aerospace Projects Review" has a large article on Blended Wing body aircraft designs including the Lockheed CL-1201, probably the largest aircraft ever seriously contemplated: http://www.up-ship.com/eAPR/ev1n3.htm Issue v1N4 of "Aerospace Projects Review" has an article by Bill Slayton on the wartime Lockheed L-133 jet fighter design: http://www.up-ship.com/eAPR/ev1n4.htm Issue v1N5 of "Aerospace Projects Review" has an article by Bill Slayton on the Lockheed CL-407 supersonic VTOL strike fighter concept: http://www.up-ship.com/eAPR/ev1n5.htm Issue v1N6 of "Aerospace Projects Review" has an article by Bill Slayton on Lockheed F-104-derived CL-346 supersonic VTOL strike fighter designs: http://www.up-ship.com/eAPR/ev1n6.htm Issue v2N1 of "Aerospace Projects Review" has an article by Bill Slayton on the Lockheed CL-167 jet fighter design: http://www.up-ship.com/eAPR/ev2n1.htm Issue V2N5 of "Aerospace Projects Review" has an article on the Aero Space Plane concept from the late 1950's/early 1960's, including a Lockheed design for an airbreathing SSTO: http://www.up-ship.com/eAPR/ev2n5.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 18:51:06 -0700 From: "Paul A. Suhler" Subject: Re: skunk-works Up-Ship has Lockheed Articles for sale online On Aug 9, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Joy Cohn wrote: > ... > Scott Lowther is selling ebooks of his magazine, Aerospace Projects Review, > as well as downloadable drawings - various air /space subjects and also > the Lockheed Skunk Works "Archangel" CAD > drawings he worked up for Suhler's "RAINBOW to GUSTO". ... To clarify, Scott did not do the illustrations for my book. He used my book as a source, as well as a set of drawings that I had received from Lockheed Martin and sent to him. Thanks very much, Paul =============== Paul A. Suhler PO Box 10293 Newport Beach, CA 92658-0293 949.856.7748 (office) 949.230.2149 (cell) suhler@ieee.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:20:32 -0700 From: Joy Cohn Subject: Re: skunk-works Up-Ship has Lockheed Articles for sale online Thanks for the clarification - that was my mistake, having cobbled together a few of his comments into one. Poor adaptation of the words. Joy From: "Paul A. Suhler" Reply-To: Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 18:51:06 -0700 To: Subject: Re: skunk-works Up-Ship has Lockheed Articles for sale online On Aug 9, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Joy Cohn wrote: > ... > Scott Lowther is selling ebooks of his magazine, Aerospace Projects Review, > as well as downloadable drawings - various air /space subjects and also > the Lockheed Skunk Works "Archangel" CAD > drawings he worked up for Suhler's "RAINBOW to GUSTO". ... To clarify, Scott did not do the illustrations for my book. He used my book as a source, as well as a set of drawings that I had received from Lockheed Martin and sent to him. Thanks very much, Paul =============== Paul A. 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