From owner-skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Tue May 8 05:23:29 2012 Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 04:22:19 -0500 From: skunk-works-digest Reply-To: skunk-works@netwrx1.com To: skunk-works-digest@netwrx1.com Subject: skunk-works-digest V16 #15 skunk-works-digest Tuesday, May 8 2012 Volume 16 : Number 015 Index of this digest by subject: *************************************************** skunk-works The Scale Of The Universe: 2 skunk-works Fw: [tlc-brotherhood] Fwd: Another GREAT SR-71 Blackbird story Re: skunk-works Fw: [tlc-brotherhood] Fwd: Another GREAT SR-71 Blackbird story skunk-works FW.........Re: Another GREAT SR-71 Blackbird story skunk-works FW.........Online UFO Magazines/Journals - Expanded List *************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:41:17 +0700 (GMT+07:00) From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: skunk-works The Scale Of The Universe: 2 WoW Terry UFO UpDate: The Scale Of The Universe: 2 Date: Feb 12, 2012 8:11 PM Cary and Michael Huang have posted a follow-up to their Scale Of The Universe animation, The Scale Of The Universe: 2. Its a Ten To The Power Of-type with the viewer able to go back and forth in size and distance using their scroll wheel or Left and Right keys. Each icon is clickable for an explanation. This staggering work is at: http://htwins.net/scale2/ ebk [with thanks to 'The Norm' for the initial lead... ] Terry W. Colvin Ladphrao (Bangkok), Thailand Pran Buri (Hua Hin), Thailand http://terrycolvin.freewebsites.com/ [Terry's Fortean & "Work" itty-bitty site] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 19:58:09 +0700 (GMT+07:00) From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: skunk-works Fw: [tlc-brotherhood] Fwd: Another GREAT SR-71 Blackbird story -----Forwarded Message----- From: MacAlan Thompson Sent: May 7, 2012 6:20 PM To: TLC Brotherhood Subject: [tlc-brotherhood] Fwd: Another GREAT SR-71 Blackbird story Have we seen this one before?? Mac T ry riding an ignited fuel farm at Mach 3+ for hours doing covert/controversial/dangerous missions, each a potential international incident in the making. These guys did so much for our Intel efforts that we'll NEVER know. The designing engineers and pilots were a sure testament to the bravery and smarts of the Greatest Generation's engineers, at the tail end of using stubby pencils and slide rules. Just wish I could have been there to watch them do power climbs out of Dulles airport. Flying this must have been like riding a roman candle to the moon. Enjoy the picb^Ys & story. Read it to the end: Los Angeles to Washington in 1 hour ! < br>[IMAGE] In April 1986, following an attack on American soldiers in a Berlin disco, President Reagan ordered the bombing of Muammar Qaddafi's terrorist camps in Libya . My duty was to fly over Libya , and takephotographs recording the damage our F-111'shad inflicted. Qaddafi had established a 'line of death,'a territorial marking across the Gulf of Sidra ,swearing to shoot down any intruder, that crossed the boundary. On the morning of April 15, I rocketed past the line at 2,125 mph. [IMAGE] I was piloting the SR-71 spy plane, the world's fastest jet, accompanied by a Marine Major (Walt), the aircraft's reconnaissance systems officer (RSO). We had crossed into Libya , and were approaching our final turn over the bleak desert landscape, when Walt informed me, that he was receiving missile launch signals. I quickly increased our speed, calculating the time it would take for the weapons, most likely SA-2 and SA-4 surface-to-air missiles, capable of Mach 5 - to reach our altitude. I estimated, that we could beat the rocket-powered missiles to the turn, and stayed our course, betting our lives on the plane's performance. [IMAGE] After several agonizingly long seconds, we made the turn and blasted toward the Mediterranean .. 'You might want to pull it back,' Walt suggested. It was then that I noticed I still had the throttles full forward. The plane was flying a mile every 1.6 seconds, well above our Mach 3.2 limit.. It was the fastest we would ever fly. I pulled the throttles to idle, just south of Sicily , but we still overran the refueling tanker, awaiting us over Gibraltar ... [IMAGE] Scores of significant aircraft have been produced, in the 100 years of flight, following the achievements of the Wright brothers, which we celebrate in December. Aircraft such as the Boeing 707, the F-86 Sabre Jet, and the P-51 Mustang, are among the important machines, that have flown our skies. But the SR-71, also known as the Blackbird, stands alone as a significant contributor to Cold War victory, and as the fastest plane ever, and only 93 Air Force pilots, ever steered the 'sled,' as we called our aircraft. [IMAGE] The SR-71, was the brainchild of Kelly Johnson, the famed Lockheed designer, who created the P-38, the F-104 Starfighter, and the U-2. After the Soviets shot down Gary Powers U-2 in 1960, Johnson began to develop an aircraft, that would fly three miles higher, and five times faster, than the spy plane, and still be capable of photographing your license plate. However, flying at 2,000 mph would create intense heat on the aircraft's skin. Lockheed engineers used a titanium alloy, to construct more than 90 percent of the SR-71, creating special tools, and manufacturing procedures to hand-build each of the 40 planes.. Special heat-resistant fuel, oil, and hydraulic fluids, that would function at 85,000 feet, and higher, also had to be developed. [IMAGE] In 1962, the first Blackbird successfully flew, and in 1966, the same year I graduated from high school, the Air Force began flying operational SR-71 missions. I came to the program in 1983, with a sterling record and a recommendation from my commander, completing the weeklong interview, and meeting Walt, my partner for the next four years. He would ride four feet behind me, working all the cameras, radios, and electronic jamming equipment. I joked, that if we were ever captured, he was the spy, and I was just the driver. He told me to keep the pointy end forward. We trained for a year, flying out of Beale AFB in California , Kadena Airbase in Okinawa , and RAF Mildenhall in England . On a typical training mission, we would take off near Sacramento, refuel over Nevada, accelerate into Montana, obtain a high Mach speed over Colorado , turn right over New Mexico, speed across the Los Angeles Basin, run up the West Coast, turn right at Seattle , then return to Beale. Total flight time:- Two Hours and Forty Minutes. One day, high above Arizona , we were monitoring the radio traffic, of all the mortal airplanes below us. First, a Cessna pilot asked the air traffic controllers to check his ground speed. 'Ninety knots,' ATC replied. A Bonanza soon made the same request. 'One-twenty on the ground,' was the reply. To our surprise, a navy F-18 came over the radio, with a ground speed check. I knew exactly what he was doing. Of course, he had a ground speed indicator in his cockpit, but he wanted to let all the bug-smashers in the valley, know what real speed was, 'Dusty 52, we show you at 620 on the ground,' ATC responded. The situation was too ripe. I heard the click of Walt's mike button in the rear seat. In his most innocent voice, Walt startled the controller by asking for a ground speed check from 81,000 feet, clearly above controlled airspace. In a cool, professional voice, the controller replied, 'Aspen 20, I show you at 1,982 knots on the ground.' We did not hear another transmission on that frequency, all the way to the coast. [IMAGE]< /SPAN> The Blackbird always showed us something new, each aircraft possessing its own unique personality. In time, we realized we were flying a national treasure. When we taxied out of our revetments for take-off, people took notice. Traffic congregated near the airfield fences, because everyone wanted to see, and hear the mighty SR-71. You could not be a part of this program, and not come to love the airplane. Slowly, she revealed her secrets to us, as we earned her trust.. One moonless night, while flying a routine training mission over the Pacific, I wondered what the sky would look like from 84,000 feet, if the cockpit lighting were dark. While heading h ome on a straight course, I slowly turned down all of the lighting, reducing the glare and revealing the night sky. Within seconds, I turned the lights back up, fearful that the jet would know, and somehow punish me. But my desire to see the sky, overruled my caution, I dimmed the lighting again. To my amazement, I saw a bright light outside my window. As my eyes adjusted to the view, I realized that the brilliance was the broad expanse of the Milky Way, now a gleaming stripe across the sky. Where dark spaces in the sky, had usually existed, there were now dense clusters, of sparkling stars. Shooting Stars, flashed across the canvas every few seconds. It was like a fireworks display with no sound. I knew I had to get my eyes back on the instruments, and reluctantly, I brought my attention back inside. To my surprise, with the cockpit lighting still off, I could see every gauge, lit by starlight. In the plane's mirrors, I could see the eerie shine of my gold spacesuit, incandescently illuminated, in a celestial glow. I stole one last glance out the window. Despite our speed, we seemed still before the heavens, humbled in the radiance of a much greater power. For those few moments, I felt a part of something far more significant, than anything we were doing in the plane. The sharp sound of Walt's voice on the radio, brought me back to the tasks at hand, as I prepared for our descent. [IMAGE] San Diego Aerospace Museum The SR-71 was an expensive aircraft to operate. The most significant cost was tanker support, and in 1990, confronted with budget cutbacks, the Air Force retired the SR-71. The SR-71 served six presidents, protecting America for a quarter of a century. Un-be-known to most of the country, the plane flew over North Vietnam , Red China , North Korea , the Middle East , South Africa , Cuba , Nicaragua , Iran , Libya , and the Falkland Islands . On a weekly basis, the SR-71, kept watch over every Soviet Nuclear Submarine, and Mobile Missile Site, and all of their troop movements. It was a key factor in winning the Cold War. I am proud to say, I flew about 500 hours in this aircraft. I knew her well. She gave way to no plane, proudly dragging her Sonic Boom through enemy backyards, with great impunity. She defeated every missile, outran every MiG, and always brought us home. In the first 100 years of manned flight, no aircraft was more remarkable. The Blackbird had outrun nearly 4,000 missiles, not once taking a scratch from enemy fire. On her final flight, the Blackbird, destined for the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum , sped from Los Angeles to Washington in 64 Minutes, averaging 2,145 mph, and setting four speed records. -- Home: +1-281-531-1134 Cell: +1-281-433-8711 Terry W. Colvin Ladphrao (Bangkok), Thailand Pran Buri (Hua Hin), Thailand http://terrycolvin.freewebsites.com/ [demime 1.01b removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image.gif] [demime 1.01b removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image.jpg] [demime 1.01b removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image.jpg] [demime 1.01b removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image.jpg] [demime 1.01b removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image.jpg] [demime 1.01b removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image.jpg] [demime 1.01b removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image.jpg] [demime 1.01b removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 14:24:23 +0100 From: "David" Subject: Re: skunk-works Fw: [tlc-brotherhood] Fwd: Another GREAT SR-71 Blackbird story - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry W. Colvin" To: "Skunky" Cc: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:58 PM Subject: skunk-works Fw: [tlc-brotherhood] Fwd: Another GREAT SR-71 Blackbird story > -----Forwarded Message----- > From: MacAlan Thompson > Sent: May 7, 2012 6:20 PM > To: TLC Brotherhood > Subject: [tlc-brotherhood] Fwd: Another GREAT SR-71 Blackbird story > > Have we seen this one before?? > Mac > > T ry riding an ignited fuel farm at Mach 3+ for hours doing > covert/controversial/dangerous missions, each a > potential international incident in the making. These guys did so > much for our Intel efforts that we'll NEVER know. The designing > engineers and pilots were a sure testament to the bravery and smarts > of the Greatest Generation's engineers, at the tail end of > using stubby pencils and slide rules. Just wish I could have been > there to watch them do power climbs out of Dulles airport. Flying > this must have been like riding a roman candle to the moon. Enjoy > the picb^Ys & story. > > Read it to the end: Los Angeles to Washington in 1 hour ! Thanks for posting Terry - fascinating insights. Best D ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 11:50:26 +0700 (GMT+07:00) From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: skunk-works FW.........Re: Another GREAT SR-71 Blackbird story Re: [tlc-brotherhood] Another GREAT SR-71 Blackbird story Date: May 8, 2012 7:29 AM How bizarre...Every time I saw an SR on static display at an air show it had at least two armed SPs protecting it....along with a security field around it so that yo u didn't get closer than about 50-75 feet.....bet some CO had a lot of explaining to do for allowing anyone that close. I never even got to touch one until I became a Jack Booted Thug and was working some joint projects with USAF-OSI up at Travis.....and we took a side trip up to Beale They let us climb up the ladder but wouldn't let us sit int he cockpit...but it was pretty cool just to be that close..... Flew several coordinated missions against the PRC and the DPRK with the RC 135 and the Habu out of Okie which was a lot of fun lighting up all those radar sites...LOL. When I got to Okie there were still the remnants of one that crashed there sitting on the run way.... In a message dated 5/7/2012 4:03:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, writes: I watched SR-71 ops at Kadena, Kunsan, Mildenhall, and Fairford over the years...lots of low passes, but nothing like this one. Last time I saw an SR at an RAF Fairford air show, some anti-American geek spray painted insults on the Blackbird...a costly paint job was required back at Mildenhall. While sharing breakfast with an SR pilot at Kadena, he said a normal pattern break with 360 degree turn would eat up about 100 miles of airspace. 'Doc' Wagner --- On Mon, 5/7/12, TAG <> wrote: As a former SR-71 pilot, and a professional keynote speaker, the question I'm most often asked is "How fast would that SR-71 fly?" I can be assured of hearing that question several times at any event I attend. It's an interesting question, given the aircraft's proclivity for speed, but there really isn't one number to give, as the jet would always give you a little more speed if you wanted it to. It was common to see 35 miles a minute. Because we flew a programmed Mach number on most missions, and never wanted to harm the plane in any way, we never let it run out to any limits of temperature or speed. Thus, each SR-71 pilot had his own individual "high" speed that he saw at some point on some mission. I saw mine over Libya when Khadafy fired two missiles my way, and max power was in order. Let's just say that the plane truly loved speed and effortlessly took us to Mach numbers we hadn't previously seen. So it was with great surprise, when at the end of one of my presentations, someone asked, "what was the slowest you ever flew the Blackbird?" This was a first. After giving it some thought, I was reminded of a story that I had never shared before, and relayed the following. I was flying the SR-71 out of RAF Mildenhall, England , with my back-seater, Walt Watson; we were returning from a mission over Europe and the Iron Curtain when we received a radio transmission from home base. As we scooted across Denmark in three minutes, we learned that a small RAF base in the English countryside had requested an SR-71 fly-past. The air cadet commander there was a former Blackbird pilot, and thought it would be a motivating moment for the young lads to see the mighty SR-71 perform a low approach. No problem, we were happy to do it. After a quick aerial refueling over the North Sea , we proceeded to find the small airfield. Walter had a myriad of sophisticated navigation equipment in the back seat, and began to vector me toward the field. Descending to subsonic speeds, we found ourselves over a densely wooded area in a slight haze. Like most former WWII British airfields, the one we were looking for had a small tower and little surrounding infrastructure. Walter told me we were close and that I should be able to see the field, but I saw nothing. Nothing but trees as far as I could see in the haze. We got a little lower, and I pulled the throttles back from 325 knots we were at. With the gear up, anything under 275 was just uncomfortable. Walt said we were practically over the field-yet; there was nothing in my windscreen. I banked the jet and started a gentle circling maneuver in hopes of picking up anything that looked like a field. Meanwhile, below, the cadet commander had taken the cadets up on the catwalk of the tower in order to get a prime view of the fly-past. It was a quiet, still day with no wind and partial gray overcast. Walter continued to give me indications that the field should be below us but in the overcast and haze, I couldn't see it. The longer we continued to peer out the window and circle, the slower we got. With our power back, the awaiting cadets heard nothing. I must have had good instructors in my flying career, as something told me I better cross-check the gauges. As I noticed the airspeed indicator slide below 160 knots, my heart stopped and my adrenalin-filled left hand pushed two throttles full forward. At this point we weren't really flying, but were falling in a slight bank. Just at the moment that both afterburners lit with a thunderous roar of flame (and what a joyous feeling that was) the aircraft fell into full view of the shocked observers on the tower. Shattering the still quiet of that morning, they now had 107 feet of fire-breathing titanium in their face as the plane leveled and accelerated, in full burner, on the tower side of the infield, closer than expected, maintaining what could only be described as some sort of ultimate knife-edge pass. Quickly reaching the field boundary, we proceeded back to Mildenhall without incident. We didn't say a word for those next 14 minutes. After landing, our commander greeted us, and we were both certain he was reaching for our wings. Instead, he heartily shook our hands and said the commander had told him it was the greatest SR-71 fly-past he had ever seen, especially how we had surprised them with such a precise maneuver that could only be described as breathtaking. He said that some of the cadet's hats were blown off and the sight of the plan form of the plane in full afterburner dropping right in front of them was unbelievable. Walt and I both understood the concept of "breathtaking" very well that morning, and sheepishly replied that they were just excited to see our low approach. As we retired to the equipment room to change from space suits to flight suits, we just sat there-we hadn't spoken a word since "the pass." Finally, Walter looked at me and said, "One hundred fifty-six knots. What did you see?" Trying to find my voice, I stammered, "One hundred fifty-two." We sat in silence for a moment. Then Walt said, "Don't ever do that to me again!" And I never did. A year later, Walter and I were having lunch in the Mildenhall Officer's club, and overheard an officer talking to some cadets about an SR-71 fly-past that he had seen one day. Of course, by now the story included kids falling off the tower and screaming as the heat of the jet singed their eyebrows. Noticing our HABU patches, as we stood there with lunch trays in our hands, he asked us to verify to the cadets that such a thing had occurred. Walt just shook his head and said, "It was probably just a routine low approach; they're pretty impressive in that plane." Impressive indeed. Little did I realize after relaying this experience to my audience that day that it would become one of the most popular and most requested stories. It's ironic that people are interested in how slow the world's fastest jet can fly. Regardless of your speed, however, it's always a good idea to keep that cross-check up. and keep your Mach up, too. Terry W. Colvin Ladphrao (Bangkok), Thailand Pran Buri (Hua Hin), Thailand http://terrycolvin.freewebsites.com/ [Terry's Fortean & "Work" itty-bitty site] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 16:20:14 +0700 (GMT+07:00) From: "Terry W. Colvin" Subject: skunk-works FW.........Online UFO Magazines/Journals - Expanded List Besides the UFO and paranormal magazines there are several sceptic/skeptic magazines as well as defunct groups such as APRO (Aerial Phenomena Research Organization) of Tucson. Terry UFO UpDate: Online UFO Magazines/Journals - Expanded List Date: May 8, 2012 12:34 PM From: Isaac Koi <> To: post@ufoupdateslist.com Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 23:32:28 +0100 Subject: Online UFO Magazines/Journals - Expanded List In the past few years, there has been an explosion in the amount of scanned material made available free online by various UFO groups (although I wish some of those groups would make considerably more material available online...). Many people posting on Internet discussion forums do not appear to be aware of these resources or, at least as importantly, the ability to search them quickly. I've previously posted about the latter point on this List at: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2012/mar/m09-003.shtml Using a free download manager, such as "Flashget" (available at the link below, which I use on the Firefox browser), it is possible to download long lists of individual issues within each collection with a couple of clicks of the mouse: http://www.flashget.com/index_en.html Following the falls in the cost of external hard-drives in the past decade (until recent price increases due to the flooding in Thailand), external hard drives with a capacity of 1 or 2 Terabyte (TB) drives are now fairly inexpensive and can hold vast amounts of written material (such as books, scanned journals, official documents, archived posts to discussion Lists, dissertations etc) and/or fairly sizeable collections of UFO documentaries/podcasts. I've previously posted on the AboveTopSecret.com website at the link below a list of some links to UFO journals/magazines (with a few sample images, covers etc): http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread762746/pg1 The list below is _considerably_ expanded (thanks largely to information provided by Russian ufologist Mikhail Gershtein, supplemented by several links provided by Italian ufologist Roberto Labanti): I am not including a link to a collection of FSR [Flying Saucer Review] journals, since that collection does not appear to have been put online with the permission of FSR. Anyway, here is the current version of the list of links in alphabetical order. I'd highlight the collections of APRO Bulletins, MUFON Journals, and "UFO Investigator" published by NICAP). AFU Newsletter: http://www.afu.info/newslett.htm Anomaly - John Keel: http://www.scribd.com/collections/2326181/John-Keel-s-Anomaly-Newsletter APRO Bulletin 1955-73 http://www.openminds.tv/apro-bulletins/ Archaeus: http://www.tricksterbook.com/Archaeus/Archaeus-JournalIssues.html Arizona Skeptic Collection: http://www.discord.org/~lippard/Arizona_Skeptic/ Index: http://files.ncas.org/eye.html Civilian Saucer Investigations-LA Bulletins 1953-54 http://www.project1947.com/shg/csi/index.html (html) Continuum Magazine (1988-1999), by Paranet Information Services/Micap: http://www.paranetinfo.com/published.html Cowflop Quaterley (Robert Todd) http://www.roswellfiles.com/storytellers/Todd.htm Creature Chronicles - Hominoid Research Group (formerly Hominoid Research), a division of the Ohio UFO Investigators League 1980- 1984 (independent 1987-1991): http://blakemathys.com/creaturechronicles.html EdgeScience [SSE]: http://www.scientificexploration.org/edgescience/ Fountain Journal (Warminster UFO): http://www.ufo-warminster.co.uk/fountain_journal/fj_top.htm Journal of Alternative Realities (Australasian Society for Psychical Research and UFORUM): http://members.ozemail.com.au/~amilani/jour.html (html) Journal of Scientific Exploration 1987-2008 http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/articles.html Journal of UFO History http://www.nicap.org/jufoh/JUFOH_Index.htm Just Cause http://www.greenwoodufoarchive.com/ Magonia/MUFORG articles: http://pelicanist.blogspot.com/p/magonia-archive-contents.html http://magonia.haaan.com/ MUFON Journal http://www.theblackvault.com/wiki/index.php/Category:MUFON_Journals NICAP newsletters etc See "UFO Investigator" below Northern UFO News http://www.nufonews.co.uk/ Currently unavailable, hopefully only temporarily. However, Jenny Randles and Robert Moore have kindly agreed to my uploading searchable copies of the scanned issues of Northern UFO News to a free file storage website at: http://minus.com/mL1bI7wso/ North Texas Skeptics newsletters http://www.ntskeptics.org/past.htm Paranormal Underground http://issuu.com/paranormalunderground/docs Tables of contents at: http://www.paranormalunderground.net/site/category/magazine-archive/ Paranthropology 2010-2012 http://paranthropologyjournal.weebly.com/free-pdf.html Shadow of a Doubt (NCAS) http://files.ncas.org/newsletters/shadow-mz.html Skeptic, The (AU) full set 1991-2010 http://www.skeptics.com.au/publications/magazine/ Skeptical Eye More recent: http://files.ncas.org/eye.html Older issues: http://files.ncas.org/newsletters/shadow-mz.html Skeptics UFO Newsletter (Klass) articles between 1994 and 1999: http://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/archive/category/the_skeptics_ufo_newsletter (html) SSE Explorer: http://www.scientificexploration.org/explorer/ Sub Rosa: http://subrosa.dailygrail.com/download.html SUNLite (Tim Printy) http://home.comcast.net/~tprinty/UFO/SUNlite.htm UFO Afrinews 1988-2000 http://www.ufoafrinews.com/resources.html UFO Data http://www.ufo-data.co.uk/ufodatamagazinedownloads.htm A searchable version of that collection is at the link below, with the kind permission of UFO Data's Steve Johnson ("MercuryRapids"): http://minus.com/m6YZwNANz UFO Historical Review http://www.greenwoodufoarchive.com/ UFO Info (Warminster) http://www.ufo-warminster.co.uk/ufo-info/ufo-info_top.htm UFO Investigator (NICAP): http://www.cufos.org/NICAP.html UFO Review (edited by Stuart Miller) http://web.archive.org/web/20070701121059/http://www.uforeview.net/ Understanding (Contactee Daniel Fry newsletter), 1956-1989 http://danielfry.com/daniels-writings/ Voice, The http://www.scribd.com/doc/67623642/The-Voice-Newsletter-UK-ET-MC-Underground-Bases# Warminster UFO Newsletter http://www.ufo-warminster.co.uk/w_ufo_n/w_ufo_n_top.htm Zetetic Scholar http://www.tricksterbook.com/truzzi/ZeteticScholars.html All the best, Isaac Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only. \_______________________________________________/ UFO UpDates - Toronto - post@ufoupdateslist.com A UFO & Related Phenomena E-Mail List operated by Errol Bruce-Knapp UFO UpDates Archives are available at http://www.ufoupdateslist.com Terry W. Colvin Ladphrao (Bangkok), Thailand Pran Buri (Hua Hin), Thailand http://terrycolvin.freewebsites.com/ [Terry's Fortean & "Work" itty-bitty site] ------------------------------ End of skunk-works-digest V16 #15 ********************************* To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@netwrx1.com". 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